The Ultimate Michael Jackson Thread - This Is It!

Slingshot6969 said:
Of course we can't. We heard it. But maybe listen to what this non sexual probably a virgin who was afraid of anything to do wth sex....said....

I dont doubt he let 10 or 20 boys sleep on what was probably a rather large bed. i do doubt he was even remotely interested in sex with boys or girls.

So because you think that the man never got laid that is it okay for him to share his bed with young boys.

Okay buddy - would you let your child of 11 or 12 years old sleep with MJ in his bed?

For anyone who is all pro MJ, same question. Knowing all the facts that you know, would you let your pre-teen son have "sleep-overs" with MJ?
 

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Kya_Jean said:
Jealous is the reason people would want MJ to be a pedophile. That makes no sense to me, why would someone be jealous of MJ being a pedophile?
lol. They would be jealous of his success, not being a pedophile. Therefore they're drawn to any potential dirt on him to bring him down. You're not aware of this phenom even in your daily life? You know you're successful when people are trying to tear you down.

Kya_Jean said:
Giving to charity does not -for me- prove he is innocent. Sorry but it doesn't.
Of course not, who said it would?

Kya_Jean said:
You can not dispute what he said about sharing is bed. There is no way to dispute it. He said it for all to hear.
That was my point exactly. He said it for all to hear. Are pedophiles typically open about their actions or actions that could be construed as molesting children?

Kya_Jean said:
I was using the breaking the cycle as an example. People say he is child-like because of his abusive past. Doesn't mean shit to me. You can be abused as a child and grow up to live a lawful, normal life.
You're right, you can grow up to live a normal life even if abused. MJ was not only abused, he spent his entire life in the public eye. There is nothing normal about his entire life, not just his childhood. It's also clear that he was never "normal". He had exceptional musical talent, something most people do not have. Perhaps there was a trade-off in that he was exceptionally deficient in other areas.

Kya_Jean said:
The kids - I don't even think I should be explaining this one. He was a drug addict. He should not have been in care of kids period with the drugs he was on. He bought the third child like a convenient store purchase. They have no mother at all, not because they lost there mother, but because he took their mother away in some way shape or form. Not even adoption agencies agree or support single parent adoption which is why he has to do it either illegally by buying them like meat, or by playing the loop-hole game.
I don't think there is anything wrong with single parent adoption. There are single parents who raise their kids better than dual parent households. With MJ's money and large family, he can offer his kids a lifestyle that few parents, dual or single, in the world could offer.

Kya_Jean said:
I am getting sick and tired of people dismissing his bad faults because they are star-eyed fans. Again, if a black man in the hood did half of what MJ did, he would be treated like the plague. Any black man here on the board want to comment about that? OR any man period. If you told someone, just one person, that you thought it was the most loving and natural thing in the world to share your bed with a child{not your child, a child} how would you be treated?
You may be sick of fans that idolize him, but that's no reason to go over the edge in the opposite direction.

For that matter, in the past 20 years or so, MJ was treated much like a plague. The words "freak" and "wacho Jacko" ring a bell?

Kya_Jean said:
So that is the end of my debate with you Gusto because you will not see my point and I certainly don't see yours. He was a sick man who got away with way to much shit in this life because he could sing. It is a sad explain of how easily people in this world are bought by hype.
You do see my point, you just don't want to accept it.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
So because you think that the man never got laid that is it okay for him to share his bed with young boys.

Okay buddy - would you let your child of 11 or 12 years old sleep with MJ in his bed?

For anyone who is all pro MJ, same question. Knowing all the facts that you know, would you let your pre-teen son have "sleep-overs" with MJ?
The fact that I may be uncomfortable and not allow my 12 year old to sleep with MJ in his bed doesn't make MJ a pedophile. For me, I'd say, why take the risk. If MJ is a pedophile, I'm giving him the best opportunity to abuse my kid if I allow my kid to sleep in the same bed as him. This doesn't make MJ a pedophile, because MJ could sleep in bed with kids and not touch them.

You're approaching this entire debate with tunnel vision, because you already have an agenda and a belief. Everything henceforth you view through a prism of MJ guilt.

Try to be objective.
 
GotGusto said:
You do see my point, you just don't want to accept it.

No I don't see your points at all. I am sorry but your defense and justifications of his actions, I don't understand. Especially when you say that you can't say one way or the other what he was, you only post facts.

Yet fact is he told the world he has no problem sharing his bed with young boys, but you justify it. He is a known drug user and you justify it. He bought his 3RD child and you justify it.

I am sorry, but I don't see you points at all. It has nothing to do with not accepting them. I don't understand them, period.

GotGusto said:
The fact that I may be uncomfortable and not allow my 12 year old to sleep with MJ in his bed doesn't make MJ a pedophile. For me, I'd say, why take the risk. If MJ is a pedophile, I'm giving him the best opportunity to abuse my kid if I allow my kid to sleep in the same bed as him. This doesn't make MJ a pedophile, because MJ could sleep in bed with kids and not touch them.

You're approaching this entire debate with tunnel vision, because you already have an agenda and a belief. Everything henceforth you view through a prism of MJ guilt.

Try to be objective.
I am not using tunnel vision and to be honest, I would apprecaite if you would stop telling me what you think I am doing, thinking, acting etc.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
No I don't see your points at all. I am sorry but your defense and justifications of his actions, I don't understand. Especially when you say that you can't say one way or the other what he was, you only post facts.
What justifications have I put forth? What defense?

Drug abuse is wrong. Pedophilia is wrong. lol, what am I defending that you don't understand?

Kya_Jean said:
Yet fact is he told the world he has no problem sharing his bed with young boys, but you justify it. He is a known drug user and you justify it. He bought his RD child and you justify it.
How have I justified any of these things? lol

Your interpretation of things are so skewed because you're so convinced of his guilt that objective analysis becomes "justifications" in your eyes.

Kya_Jean said:
I am sorry, but I don't see you points at all. It has nothing to do with not accepting them. I don't understand them, period.
Take off the goggles then.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
I am not using tunnel vision and to be honest, I would apprecaite if you would stop telling me what you think I am doing, thinking, acting etc.
I can tell what you're thinking because you're expressing your thoughts here in the discussion, lol.

What you're doing and how you're acting, I have no idea. I'm not in the room with you. lol

This is a most wonderful display of human psychology.
 
GotGusto said:
I can tell what you're thinking because you're expressing your thoughts here in the discussion, lol.

What you're doing and how you're acting, I have no idea. I'm not in the room with you. lol

This is a most wonderful display of human psychology.
Whatever Gusto - You have no idea anything about me and have just proved to me why you are no longer going to be waste of my time.

Good day, good life, good riddance.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
So because you think that the man never got laid that is it okay for him to share his bed with young boys.

Okay buddy - would you let your child of 11 or 12 years old sleep with MJ in his bed?

For anyone who is all pro MJ, same question. Knowing all the facts that you know, would you let your pre-teen son have "sleep-overs" with MJ?
Ya...i would. Especially seeing as all the other "good dads" that settled bullshit charges out of court for $$$$ could see that coming a mile away....
 

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Kya_Jean said:
Whatever Gusto - You have no idea anything about me and have just proved to me why you are no longer going to be waste of my time.

Good day, good life, good riddance.
Alrightie.
 

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You shouldn't take things so personally Kya. That's your problem. You inject far too much emotion and this is why you can't see the forest for the trees, as it were.

Your personal attacks on Slingshot about not wanting him as a father to your kids (presumably because you think he'd make a bad parent) are an example of somebody who doesn't understand rudimentary debating protocol.
 
Slingshot6969 said:
You should be so lucky.
No, you have that wrong my dear....

It should read that your kids should be so unlucky to have a father like you. You want them to be molested via your post in another thread to make money. You're sick.

And I am done with you too....

To bad MJ is dead, go run along and find another get rich quick sceme.:rolleyes:

Slingshot6969 said:
If i was they would find out what their mom did.

Ouch, that hurt me so bad - can you not come up with something better then that for an insult. Get real buddy. No wonder you need quick rich scemes, you have no smarts at all. LMAO

Later loser.

GotGusto said:
You shouldn't take things so personally Kya. That's your problem. You inject far too much emotion and this is why you can't see the forest for the trees, as it were.
Again telling me what I am doing, feeling etc. What my problems are. You don't know me. You have no idea if I even really feel this way or if I am bored and just fucking with you. I could be a dude, or a 85 year old grannie. You don't know so stop pretending like you do.

Last time -bye bye now.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
No, you have that wrong my dear....

It should read that your kids should be so unlucky to have a father like you. You want them to be molested via your post in another thread to make money. You're sick.

And I am done with you too....

To bad MJ is dead, go run along and find another get rich quick sceme.:rolleyes:

So now we have some lady here telling us (without any legal proof mind you) that he diddles kids...for fact lady? Is this what you are saying?
 

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Slingshot6969 said:
So now we have some lady here telling us (without any legal proof mind you) that he diddles kids...for fact lady? Is this what you are saying?
Exactly. She just doesn't get it. She thinks he's guilty and this is why she sees everything having to do with MJ in a distorted way. A lot like GDLLover. She can't be impartial because she's already made up her mind. I've tried to drill this fact home, but she cannot understand it.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
I didn't say that, you did in the other thread. You would let MJ diddle your kids to make money. You are a twisted fuck that is for sure.
He didn't say that. He said his kids could sleep in the same bed as MJ, and he could then make the claim that they were molested. They would not have to be molested in order for him to make that claim.

That was his point. You missed it because you think MJ is guilty. You can't see or understand anything else because you have already sentenced him in your mind.

This can turn out to be an interesting mental marathon. How many times and in how many different ways can we try to get Kya to understand that MJ might not be guilty and to see things with an open eye, before she begins doing so. Maybe it's not in the cards for her. After all, we are all limited by our genetics.
 
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GotGusto said:
Exactly. She just doesn't get it. She thinks he's guilty and this is why she sees everything having to do with MJ in a distorted way. A lot like GDLLover. She can't be impartial because she's already made up her mind. I've tried to drill this fact home, but she cannot understand it.

I have never said he was a pedophile for fact. Not once. I am simply stating what that sick ass wrote in another thread. Read to know your own facts first.

Please quote me where I have said for fact that he is a child molester. Please. Until then, again told tell me what I think, what I do, what I feel because you don't know.
 

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Kya_Jean said:
I didn't say that, you did in the other thread. You would let MJ diddle your kids to make money. You are a twisted fuck that is for sure.
And now I see why all your posts are arguments.

I said i would let them sleep in his bed. I dont think he diddles kids...havent seen any proof...have you? no? quelle surprise.

All the other fathers knew it was bullshit too. just wanted some $$$$$

so now we are clear lady with the reading comprehension problem?

I would let my kids sleep there because i dont think he diddled anything let alone a kid.

you do...show me your proof. or keep walking.
 
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