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Ranger68

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He'll have no choice but to go, I think. The US people won't stand for such a prolonged occupation. Expect the administration to start jacking up the rhetoric on reasons to extend the stay, though - WMDs nearby, Syria, Iran, continued terrorist threats, etc.
 

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Ranger68 said:
He'll have no choice but to go, I think. The US people won't stand for such a prolonged occupation. Expect the administration to start jacking up the rhetoric on reasons to extend the stay, though - WMDs nearby, Syria, Iran, continued terrorist threats, etc.
I agree with the first part of your statement.


Not sure the USA will need a base in Iraq to conduct operations nearby. Afghanistan should be quiet sufficent for that.
 

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Afghanistan is not a great country to base in, being land-locked and having very difficult terrain. Iraq makes more sense logistically and geographically.
 

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Ranger68 said:
Afghanistan is not a great country to base in, being land-locked and having very difficult terrain. Iraq makes more sense logistically and geographically.
From a strategic point of view, do you think that really make s a difference?
I hope we are not getting involved in another full scale war against Syria. I was hoping for more of a "commando style attack", with narrowly defined goals.
 

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Why wouldn't it make a difference from a "strategic" point of view? Some areas are going to be more useful for military basing.
You really shouldn't be hoping for *any* attack against Syria.
Should you?
 

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The US military is so far advanced and the potential enemy *Syria* is relatively weak, the war could be won without having to be based in IRAQ.

If there is evidence that Syria supports the insurgency, an attack on those targets, should be warranted.
 

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langeweile said:
The US military is so far advanced and the potential enemy *Syria* is relatively weak, the war could be won without having to be based in IRAQ.

If there is evidence that Syria supports the insurgency, an attack on those targets, should be warranted.
Old bore, everybody is weak, militarily, against the US. But I cannot believe that you would like to see the current war expanded to the entire middle east.

The fact is, as cooler heads in the US has pointed out, that the US will eventually have to cut a deal with the insurgents in order to get out of Iraq.

Rummy lost his little war of liberation.
 

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danmand said:
Old bore, everybody is weak, militarily, against the US. But I cannot believe that you would like to see the current war expanded to the entire middle east.

The fact is, as cooler heads in the US has pointed out, that the US will eventually have to cut a deal with the insurgents in order to get out of Iraq.

Rummy lost his little war of liberation.
I wasn't talking about an expanded war.
I was suggesting a "commando style" attack against any elements supporting the insurgency in Iraq.

Yes and I do hope it doesn't come to that, already too many people have died.
 

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Some other articles and links from the same author:

Continuing Slaughter, Kidnappings, US Rhetoric
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article6018.htm

Fallujah, Pacified
http://www.antiwar.com/jamail/?articleid=2753

Telltale Signs of Torture Lead Family to Demand Answers
http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/jamail/jamail3.html

Americans Slaughtering Civilians in Falluja
http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/jamail/jamail2.html

Detained, Bludgeoned and Electrocuted into a Coma
http://www.strike-the-root.com/4/jamail/jamail1.html

OTB
 

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langeweile said:
The US military is so far advanced and the potential enemy *Syria* is relatively weak, the war could be won without having to be based in IRAQ.

If there is evidence that Syria supports the insurgency, an attack on those targets, should be warranted.
Where would they be based?
What type of "war" are you talking about?

If there is evidence that Syria supports the insurgents, perhaps the US should take that as yet another clue. That MANY Arabs don't agree with the invasion, to put it mildly.
:rolleyes:

The US would be treading on very thin ice if it expanded this war across national borders.

Does the bombing of Cambodia ring a bell? ........
 

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danmand said:
Old bore, everybody is weak, militarily, against the US. But I cannot believe that you would like to see the current war expanded to the entire middle east.

The fact is, as cooler heads in the US has pointed out, that the US will eventually have to cut a deal with the insurgents in order to get out of Iraq.

Rummy lost his little war of liberation.
Precisely.
 

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langeweile said:
I wasn't talking about an expanded war.
I was suggesting a "commando style" attack against any elements supporting the insurgency in Iraq.

Yes and I do hope it doesn't come to that, already too many people have died.
What sort of "commando style attack"? Against what kinds of targets?

I think you've been watching too many James Bond movies. ;)

You *do* realize that most of these "insurgents" merely think they're fighting against a foreign aggressor, right?
 
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They face the same problem with an incursion into Syria that they face with doing it in Iran - everyone would see it coming a mile away and it's a hardly secure launching site. Plus, if they start doing it, international support for the U.S. will be eroded because it'll look like they're only interested in Iraq as a staging area for strikes elsewhere in the region.
 

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Agreed. The administration's program has hit hard times.
No big surprise there.
 

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Ranger68 said:
What sort of "commando style attack"? Against what kinds of targets?

I think you've been watching too many James Bond movies. ;)

You *do* realize that most of these "insurgents" merely think they're fighting against a foreign aggressor, right?
The same style attacks we should have used against Saddam in the first place.
Target the head and the snake will die.
 

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What sort of attacks would those be?
You're being very vague.
Assassinating the head of government?

Wow.

Even assuming the US *could* pull that off (not a chance), it's a frightening proposal.
 
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