The True Cost of Lockdowns

[Malibuk]

The second wave of the COVID-19 pandemic did not stop a rising tide of reports of domestic violence, experts say, warning that the stress of life in lockdown continues to put victims at risk.
Canada's Assaulted Women's Helpline fielded 20,334 calls between Sept. 1 and Dec. 31, 2020, compared to 12,352 over the same period the previous year, said Yvonne Harding, manager of resource development at the organization.
“It's very disturbing to know that there are so many women who are in this really precarious situation,” she said. “There may have been limited support for them beforehand, but at least they had outlets.”
Harding said opportunities to leave the house to get help - such as daily trips to and from school - have in many cases been eliminated during the pandemic.
Access to friends and family has also been cut off, she said, leaving victims with fewer options.
Call volumes spiked almost immediately when swaths of Canada first locked down, Harding said.
Between April 1 and Sept. 30, the centre received 51,299 calls, compared to 24,010 in the same time in 2019.
“Everything closed overnight, and our crisis lines lit up,” she said.

 

[basketcase]

The article says contributing, not causing.
What is so hard to believe about that?
Obviously when the government gives away money without any vetting, drug addicts and alcoholics will want to jump all over that opportunity.

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the rise in opioid deaths in Ontario was rising months before the pandemic started and have is anything been dropping a little since May?

 

[basketcase]

These half measured lockdowns could be just delaying the inevitable and in fact making things worse by devastating economies and giving the virus more time to mutate.
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Again, 'devastated economies' have the chance to recover while dead people don't. Economies are not people either and the state of the economy primarily reflects the wealth at the top of the food chain and not the average person.

It sucks but going broke isn't the end of the world as there are plenty of government and societal supports that can sustain you until you can get back on your feet. The reality is that a huge number of the people complaining aren't looking in the face of starvation but simply are upset that they might not be able to support themselves in the manner they are used to.

 

[Malibuk]

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the rise in opioid deaths in Ontario was rising months before the pandemic started and have is anything been dropping a little since May?

I really don't care.
Drug addicts could blow their free CERB money on drugs and alcohol or Canada savings bonds.
Makes absolutely no difference to me.

 

[basketcase]

I really don't care.
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Yep, that's obviously why you keep posting in this thread.

 

[Malibuk]

Yep, that's obviously why you keep posting in this thread.

My initial response was tongue in cheek but the reality is that CERB was a free for all including drug addicts and alcoholics.

I actually think it is absurd to claim the true cost of lockdowns is more drug overdoses.
Even if it were true, there would be many tragedies way higher on my list.

 

[TeeJay]

Why is it so hard for you to admit that the rise in opioid deaths in Ontario was rising months before the pandemic started and have is anything been dropping a little since May?

Possibly because that is the basketcase narrative and noone else agrees with you?
My initial post was BC related but here ya go straight from the horses mouth
@Malibuk views directly line up with the report you can see is sourced straight from PHO
(and just so you cant claim its too long / cant find etc start at page 5)

38% INCREASE in Opiod deaths in ON and an estimated 50% INCREASE by year end (only charted 34 weeks so far but I am highly doubting the ODs dropped through the floor in the last lockdown we just had; plus the obviousness that things like depression, drug use, and suicides all spike around Christmas season historically)

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/o/2020/opioid-mortality-covid-surveillance-report.pdf?la=en

 

[basketcase]

Possibly because that is the basketcase narrative and noone else agrees with you?
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Yeah, I hacked Ontario public heath and modified their data.

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Update-on-COVID-19-Projections_February-11-2021_English-2.pdf

page 20.

 

[TeeJay]

Yeah, I hacked Ontario public heath and modified their data.

https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Update-on-COVID-19-Projections_February-11-2021_English-2.pdf

page 20.

lol your link is not even the real link

Here is the actual Public Health Ontario link (you can read the URL quite easily)

https://www.publichealthontario.ca/-/media/documents/o/2020/opioid-mortality-covid-surveillance-report.pdf?la=en

And that link refutes your (usual) nonsense

 

[basketcase]

lol your link is not even the real link
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Thank you for confirming exactly what I said (though the data I posted is far more up to date).

Page 5 supports exactly what was shown in the other provincial data I linked. Opioid deaths were at a low in September increased through April and have tallied off since.

 

[squeezer]

Thank you for confirming exactly what I said (though the data I posted is far more up to date).

Page 5 supports exactly what was shown in the other provincial data I linked. Opioid deaths were at a low in September increased through April and have tallied off since.

Shhhhh, you're going to make TJ's head pop like a rancid cantaloupe.

 

[PeteOsborne]

Shhhhh, you're going to make TJ's head pop like a rancid cantaloupe.

Actually TJ is correct in his assertion that opiod deaths during the pandemic have increased as shown by the key findings in the link that Basket case posted.
https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-...19-Projections_February-11-2021_English-2.pdf
It states " Some key mental health indicators are unchanged. However, important measures such as emergency department admissions, opioid deaths and care for eating disorders are worsening."
However, although the death rate due to opiod overdoses has increased during the pandemic, it cannot solely be attributed to the pandemic or the resultant health measures being utilized as mentioned in the post TJ noted. Basically they are saying that laced opiods were mostly responsible for the increase in the overdoses.
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...mortality-covid-surveillance-report.pdf?la=en
In the conclusions they noted two things.
1; " During the pandemic, fentanyl and stimulants (particularly cocaine) were more commonly direct contributors to these deaths.
2;" For example, given evidence of the increasingly toxic unregulated drug supply during the pandemic,4 expanded access to a range of low-barrier opioid agonist treatments or safer supply of regulated opioids could be considered.

 

[squeezer]

Actually TJ is correct in his assertion that opiod deaths during the pandemic have increased as shown by the key findings in the link that Basket case posted.
https://covid19-sciencetable.ca/wp-...19-Projections_February-11-2021_English-2.pdf
It states " Some key mental health indicators are unchanged. However, important measures such as emergency department admissions, opioid deaths and care for eating disorders are worsening."
However, although the death rate due to opiod overdoses has increased during the pandemic, it cannot solely be attributed to the pandemic or the resultant health measures being utilized as mentioned in the post TJ noted. Basically they are saying that laced opiods were mostly responsible for the increase in the overdoses.
https://www.publichealthontario.ca/...mortality-covid-surveillance-report.pdf?la=en
In the conclusions they noted two things.
1; " During the pandemic, fentanyl and stimulants (particularly cocaine) were more commonly direct contributors to these deaths.
2;" For example, given evidence of the increasingly toxic unregulated drug supply during the pandemic,4 expanded access to a range of low-barrier opioid agonist treatments or safer supply of regulated opioids could be considered.

It doesn't surprise me with people being home and more time on their hand's booze consumption and drug usage will naturally go up which can lead to overdoses. I've never disputed this. I only state the obvious, TJ is the high priest of false information, and the odd time he may share a nugget of truth, it doesn't buy him a get out of jail card.