The Star explains hobbyists

I disagree with the tone that only men want novelty and variety. The writer of the article should take a trip to the Foxes Den in Brampton... the girls act *exactly* the same way as guys do. Took my wife there a couple of times... she enjoyed it very much... and she did more than just sit and watch the show.

The article also doesn't account for couples who have open relationships.

But the thing is, the stats say that 5%-10% are in or have been in open relationships. But I know that 50-75% of people in open relationships won't ever admit it... so that 5%-10% is probably more 10 - 30% of the people out there are in or have had open relationships.

I personally am in my second serious relationship that is open.
 
Bull S**t baffles brains...

moviefan said:
I'm not sure this piece is particularly informative, but nonetheless here's the Toronto Star's take on our activities:

http://www.thestar.com/columnists/article/212679
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"No, it's not cheating," replies Coastin1. "It's just physical stuff. Besides, it probably makes you a better husband. It relieves stress and lets you be able to relax. Men fight this urge to sleep around. All men fight it. Why? If you have that urge, Mother Nature gave it to you. It's really not your fault."

RIGHT, and the Leafs just won the Stanley Cup......:rolleyes:
 
toughb said:
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"No, it's not cheating," replies Coastin1. "It's just physical stuff. Besides, it probably makes you a better husband. It relieves stress and lets you be able to relax. Men fight this urge to sleep around. All men fight it. Why? If you have that urge, Mother Nature gave it to you. It's really not your fault."

RIGHT, and the Leafs just won the Stanley Cup......:rolleyes:
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Another article from pluto on the hobby...

make that three Stanley cups in a row..

" But despite all these motivations, says Monto, the best evidence shows that fewer than one out of five men has ever been to a prostitute. Monto notes that "fewer men today seek out prostitutes than they have in the past."

btw..the reason that the stats show 20%, and that is probably credible, is because the percentages change as we get older...for a variety of reasons..

I'd like to see the stats on men over 40....
 
Mcluhan said:
Another article from pluto on the hobby...
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Yup you can say that again. Also note how they lump to together streetwalkers and outcall.
Mcluhan said:
" But despite all these motivations, says Monto, the best evidence shows that fewer than one out of five men has ever been to a prostitute. Monto notes that "fewer men today seek out prostitutes than they have in the past."

btw..the reason that the stats show 20%, and that is probably credible, is because the percentages change as we get older...for a variety of reasons..

I'd like to see the stats on men over 40....
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Is the 20% you mention the 1 in 5 or something else?
 
Aardvark154 said:
Yup you can say that again. Also note how they lump to together streetwalkers and outcall.Is the 20% you mention the 1 in 5 or something else?
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I also suspect that a lot of guys who are in the hobby, don't even fully understand (truly honestly) why they are in the hobby.. I think there is a changing awareness that comes over time, as we become more honest with ourselves.

BUT...having said that, I also believe that the jade acquired makes it increasingly difficult to have a quote 'normal' relationship. I think I have my four star general's rank in that department...for better or for worse...
 
There is an increasingly number of male escorts,as women are finding that in certain situations sex is a great escape,being both gradifiying and satisfying.Why has there been a blending of strip clubs and dancers,to extras and fs?Do we feel safer getting something from a dancer,or is it the fact they are more accessable?Or is it a money driven industry that sees dancers being able to maximize their returns,with little more effort involved.Or perhaps is it because we want to evolve sexually,and get over the moral majorty's idealogies,and become more globaly educated.I mean the Euoropeans,Asians and most other industrialized nations have overcome this,but not North Americans,we still hold "values" dear to our hearts,and chastize anyone for thinking "outside the box".Here if we announce our openness in a relationship,you may get stoned,fired,thrown out of church,lol.It is just sex period,but hey till the government can tax it,the only way to make money from it is make it illegal,where they can,and where they can't,well the divorce lawyers and the courts do very well.We all pay for sex,it is all in how you justify the payments.
 
toughb said:
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"No, it's not cheating," replies Coastin1. "It's just physical stuff. Besides, it probably makes you a better husband. It relieves stress and lets you be able to relax. Men fight this urge to sleep around. All men fight it. Why? If you have that urge, Mother Nature gave it to you. It's really not your fault."

RIGHT, and the Leafs just won the Stanley Cup......:rolleyes:
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Women want to cheat just as much as men, they just don't have the resources available like we do.
 
guy27 said:
Women want to cheat just as much as men, they just don't have the resources available like we do.
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LOL yeah, all THEY have to do is go out....where we have to go out and pay for it lol.

That is one thing I could never figure out: why a reasonably attractive woman can't get laid.....the ONLY reason I see it is because she will go out with friends and just "be there" instead of actively searching out some guy.

Biologically speaking, men cheat because we are designed to. We were created to go out and propogate and it is only society that has us limited to one partner.

For me, the ONLY reason I hobby is because I have neither the time nor inclination to spend the necessary hours upon hours searching out and pursuing a woman. I would hazard a guess that there are many other guys in the same boat as I am. I know more than a few that just don't want the hassle that chasing women entails. I can see how guys in their 40s feel this way but what is really sad is one guy I was talking too was already fed up with the Bullshit and he was only 25.

Another good reason why I (and I have to assume others too) hobby is because where else can an average looking middle aged guy can have sex with an extremely hot 20 something?
 
tboy said:
I know more than a few that just don't want the hassle that chasing women entails. I can see how guys in their 40s feel this way but what is really sad is one guy I was talking too was already fed up with the Bullshit and he was only 25.

Another good reason why I (and I have to assume others too) hobby is because where else can an average looking middle aged guy can have sex with an extremely hot 20 something?
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Two great reasons. Let me add IMHO guys are lying about whether or not they see sex workers. If you take a look at the whole industry, from Strippers to Rub & Tugs
 
toughb said:
"No, it's not cheating," replies Coastin1. "It's just physical stuff. Besides, it probably makes you a better husband. It relieves stress and lets you be able to relax. Men fight this urge to sleep around. All men fight it. Why? If you have that urge, Mother Nature gave it to you. It's really not your fault."
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I'm an SP and it's not my fault ... My urge to SP was given to me by Mother Nature herself :) Blame her don't blame me!
 
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