LOL you're a nut...seriously.basketcase said:
Go back and read my friend, I didn't post the video!!!!
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Go back and read my friend, I didn't post the video!!!!
And...
I see even more white guys with larger white women, that they have kids with.
Fuck you people are idiots.
Years ago, when some Nazi hugging SP was defending some white supremacist hate propaganda (while the entire time insisting that she herself was not a Nazi), I posted how it broke my heart to think that at some point I'd have to sit down with my son and explain to him the realities of the world he lived in, just as my mom had done with me 30+ years earlier. That it was a damn shame to think that in 30+ not much had really changed about the way people thought...just the degree to which they masked it (or not...think of how often ignorant insensitivity is now batted about as simply a disavowing of political correctness...)
I am having another one of those moments.
And to think some people really do wonder why "Black people are always so angry"...
rb420 said:
I see even more white guys with larger white women, that they have kids with.
Fuck you people are idiots.
Years ago, when some Nazi hugging SP was defending some white supremacist hate propaganda (while the entire time insisting that she herself was not a Nazi), I posted how it broke my heart to think that at some point I'd have to sit down with my son and explain to him the realities of the world he lived in, just as my mom had done with me 30+ years earlier. That it was a damn shame to think that in 30+ not much had really changed about the way people thought...just the degree to which they masked it (or not...think of how often ignorant insensitivity is now batted about as simply a disavowing of political correctness...)
I am having another one of those moments.
And to think some people really do wonder why "Black people are always so angry"...
*groan*abstinent said:
They will not do well at all. Every time that I even think about this issue, and the fact that it was passed, it irritates me. I am a black woman, who graduated from a competitive high school and passed advanced placement courses with flying colours (no pun intended) prior to applying to University. My high school was 80 percent Asian, I was the only black person who was in my advanced placement courses and there are currently only a hand full of black people in my program at U of T. I did not need a black-centric program to succeed, and I doubt that it is going to do any good for black students who have no interest in going to school, and have housing issues/family issues/financial issues to worry about. BUT THAT'S ANOTHER TOPIC THAT WAS ALREADY COVERED....no need for me to go on with my rant. [/rant]Basketcase was inferring that if you were to post an edited version of the video that did not have the intro lines and the statistics, as well as the music, your points would be valid -- but the video as it stands is controversial. (And you already knew that. ^_^)Tboy said:
Oh man, I'm like Michael Corleone: I try to get out and they drag me back in...mmouse said:
Actually, oddly enough, my take on the orignally posted video is directly in line with everyone's response to the orginal PSA video from RAINN. I am beginning to wonder if because I basically ignore someone's race as a factor maybe I ignore blatant racist remarks etc as well? Gonna have to think on that.......
Ignoring race as a factor makes you not racist about as much as ignoring speed as a factor makes you a better driver.tboy said:
In order to not be racist you actually need to be aware of the realities and history of racial stereotyping in the culture that you belong to. Selective blindness isn't productive.
Don't misunderstand me, racism isn't a problem that white people have; it's just as prevalent in the black, aboriginal and asian communities.
Sorry, you're wrong. Not treating anyone any differently because of their race, hence ignoring the fact that they may be a different race then me, IS the exact opposite of racist.
For that matter, a more appropriate analogy would be not letting someone who speeds affect my driving.
For that matter, a more appropriate analogy would be not letting someone who speeds affect my driving.
Notice that to "ignore someone's race as a factor" is not at all the same thing as "Not treating anyone any differently because of their race". If you treat someone of a different race no differently despite your awareness that they are of a different race, then you are not racist. If on the other hand you ignore someone's race as a factor then you are simply not paying enough attention to the world around you.tboy said:
The distinction may seem subtle, but it is important.
Since you missed the questions directed at you in your response, I'll ask you again:tboy said:
What you also fail to see is that in three pages of this thread, the issue of date rape has yet to be the point. How does that impact on your view of the utility of generating discussion on the video initially referenced? Even assuming the intent of the altered video were to present date rape, if this video fails to generate discussion on date rape but instead becomes a discussion of "dangers of interracial dating," then can you admit that the objective has failed and this video is not a valid or useful vehicle for the message you seem to be interested in projecting on it?
While I'm at it, since you seemed comfortable asking the same question a couple times of another participant:
Is the video being discussed racist?
I'm not asking you if we edited out this or changed that. I'm asking you, as it stands, what is your opinion?
In all fairness to you, tboy, I'm not sure whether you are being deliberately obtuse here or what.
Fine. You're short and your mother dresses you funny.tboy said:
No comment. Some things are just worth repeating.MLAM said:
abstinent said:
I'm glad somebody brought up the fact that there is a lot more going on than can reasonably be addressed by segregated schooling. Personally, the very idea is offensive. However, some of the education elite believe this is part of a solution. It is worth being mindful that what they are attempting to achieve is to create a ethno-cultural space in which these students will feel dominant, in the hope that this will improve their performance. Is this a likely outcome? Probably not. The ethno-cultural dominance outside such a space will not change and, frankly, the targeted kids are probably smart enough to see the lie.Noir said:
It would make a heck of a lot more sense to address all the other "issues" mentioned, regardless of ethno-cultural background.
This sort of comment really begs a general question to the participants. How many of you fine folks actually believe that there is such a thing as different races of humans?tboy said:
Race is a simplified way for people to categorize others (which seems to be a pretty basic impulse). The constant migration and offspring of parents with different backgrounds, war conquest, rape, trade, ..... makes it pretty inaccurate.
On a scientific level, race is not often used to describe humans because there are no clear divisions (or too many people fit between or in multiple groups).
At one time, it might have been possible for groups such as native Americans and Polynesian Islanders to have become distinct because their length of isolation could allow for enough genetic variation to be considered their own race. The modern world has eliminated that isolation though.
The scientific stuff ignores the fact that racial distinctions exist because people choose to see race (and apply their preconceptions to them).
One scientific theory I heard of broke humans into two groups based on the type of ear wax they have. Seems as reasonable as basing it on skin colour.
On a scientific level, race is not often used to describe humans because there are no clear divisions (or too many people fit between or in multiple groups).
At one time, it might have been possible for groups such as native Americans and Polynesian Islanders to have become distinct because their length of isolation could allow for enough genetic variation to be considered their own race. The modern world has eliminated that isolation though.
The scientific stuff ignores the fact that racial distinctions exist because people choose to see race (and apply their preconceptions to them).
One scientific theory I heard of broke humans into two groups based on the type of ear wax they have. Seems as reasonable as basing it on skin colour.
Text responses have been disabled by the poster "Loveyourrace"
I guess he wasnt interested in the publics reaction.
Still nothing stopped me from flagging it for removal for expressing hatred against a race.
If enough of us flag it, it will be removed.
I guess he wasnt interested in the publics reaction.
Still nothing stopped me from flagging it for removal for expressing hatred against a race.
If enough of us flag it, it will be removed.
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I dunno, but my Mother always said when watching the news when I was younger. Just look at those beady eyes. Sure enough those creeps on the news always seemed to have beady looking eyes and no remorse in thier faces.ocean976124 said:
As for colour of hair or eyes, height or race. Forget that, but I do seem to look at the eyes for beadiness.
Instead of looking to divide these stats by race, they should be looking at levels of disadvantage especially when it comes to lack of opportunity and education. Very often discrimination drives minorities into positions of disadvantage - adding to their potential to spiral down into a position of disadvantage so deep and dark that they may never see the light of day. But it has nothing to do with their race. The same things could happen to any one.
