The Province of Toronto
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Not the first time that the idea has been floated, but the first time from the viciously right wing. On the subject of the right wing, the Landowners association wants to challenge at least one sitting PC MPP for nomination. If the Landowners do displace a "moderate" PC member with one of their own, they will be emboldened to challenge in more ridings in 2015. If unchecked the PC Party will disappear and become the Conservative Party of Ontario and will probably never win a seat in any urban area with a population larger than 150,000.
With the federal Conservative Party taking a more prominent role in shaping Tim Hudak's version of Ontario, some have suggested that the PC Party should not have simply been given a new logo but their federal handlers, but should also have adopted a new slogan: Older, Righter & Whiter.
With the federal Conservative Party taking a more prominent role in shaping Tim Hudak's version of Ontario, some have suggested that the PC Party should not have simply been given a new logo but their federal handlers, but should also have adopted a new slogan: Older, Righter & Whiter.
This guy wants to make Toronto a province over coyote problems? Perhaps a better example would have been more useful. Sounds like the American teabaggers who want to throw out government over seat belt laws.
Well, Murdoch represents farming communities, and coyotes are a problem for them. The coyotes kill lambs and calves, and that's money out of pocket for the farmer. The famers want an unrestricted bounty hunt, but the MNR has a different process.
http://kincardine.siteseer.ca/ArticleDisplay.aspx?e=2492694
What might seem like a small problem to someone in Toronto can be a big deal in a rural area. They suggest sealing off Toronto, letting them go their own way peacefully, and letting the rural areas govern themselves.
Coyotes go after kids too. I don't mean just goat calves either. Children are prey too.
Toronto wildlife activists have no experience trying to live on a farm, make money on the farm, and balance all the wildlife and nature complications that occur.
Toronto wildlife activists have no experience trying to live on a farm, make money on the farm, and balance all the wildlife and nature complications that occur.
It makes considerable sense for Toronto to be a province. So much of Canadian politics treats provinces equally, which makes no sense, and is totally undemocratic. So I am all for it.
As to Fuji's comment that money flows out of Toronto, I think it would be hard to really assess that. Toronto has more financial assets, but also more social assistance. There are so many people that work in Toronto and live in 905, etc., that it is hard to say. Presumably they would be tightly integrated even if it was a separate province. I think it would be ok for 905 though.
As to Fuji's comment that money flows out of Toronto, I think it would be hard to really assess that. Toronto has more financial assets, but also more social assistance. There are so many people that work in Toronto and live in 905, etc., that it is hard to say. Presumably they would be tightly integrated even if it was a separate province. I think it would be ok for 905 though.
Money flows out of the 905 too. Toronto and 905 are, overall, high tax bracket areas from which the province extracts the lion's share of the tax load. This money is transferred to places like the backwater riding of the guy who is calling for Toronto to be a province.
He's saying 905 should be excluded but it would make most sense to make the GTA as a whole a separate province. As much as people in Toronto and the suburbs bitch and moan about one another it's all a tightly integrated economy that would be served by things like a common provincial transit plan, a common economic development policy, and so on.
He's saying 905 should be excluded but it would make most sense to make the GTA as a whole a separate province. As much as people in Toronto and the suburbs bitch and moan about one another it's all a tightly integrated economy that would be served by things like a common provincial transit plan, a common economic development policy, and so on.
Yeah right.
The rest of us here in Ontario thank you for saving us.
Now back to reality.........
Toronto gives Ontario nothing except grief and garbage.
I'd love to see this happen and the giant elephant on the back of Ontario will be gone.
And the rest of us can laugh as taxes in Toronto go up about 300%.
Good luck with that.
What a stupid idea. Isolationist theory.
So the city wants to be selfish.Or the rural want their own world!!! I do understand selfish...... Lots of people are selfish.
We are a Province....all contributing.
WHAT THEN IS TO STOP the rich guys on the Bridle Path wanting to "Go it alone"...not be involved.....reduce their worlds to THEIR worlds and contribute nothing to the bigger picture. No need for roads.....nothing.....
Small minded selfish people!
So the city wants to be selfish.Or the rural want their own world!!! I do understand selfish...... Lots of people are selfish.
We are a Province....all contributing.
WHAT THEN IS TO STOP the rich guys on the Bridle Path wanting to "Go it alone"...not be involved.....reduce their worlds to THEIR worlds and contribute nothing to the bigger picture. No need for roads.....nothing.....
Small minded selfish people!
Take 2 million out of 13 million and I think you will find that the opposite is true. Toronto taxes will actually go down, as the PST and other provincial levies now flow to Toronto only.
Nunavut is a territory. Not exactly the same thing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provinces_and_territories_of_Canada#Territories
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I think you could argue 905 either way. It makes a nice dividing line, and politically it seems like a logical division. I am not sure what would be better population wise to be balanced. The average province in Canada other than Ontario has about two million people, so really Ontario should be about five provinces: Toronto, 905, East, West and North.
How is it selfish to make them separate? It is not like a classic have / have not situation, each has strengths and weaknesses, but different views of how things should be. It is undemocratic not to, much more selfish is any Atlantic provinces saying it is fair that they should be equal to big provinces: population is the only fair way to allocate power.
How is it selfish to make them separate? It is not like a classic have / have not situation, each has strengths and weaknesses, but different views of how things should be. It is undemocratic not to, much more selfish is any Atlantic provinces saying it is fair that they should be equal to big provinces: population is the only fair way to allocate power.
This a complete waste of time & effort as any such proposal would require a constitutional amendment. And as us older folks will remember the late 80s, constitutional amendments to be passed by all of the provinces are hard to come by. Lets get back to talking about tits & asses, please.
