The Ottawa GFE MAs (list, votes and reviews)

[jasian14]

+1 for Reese @ Brass (+kissing, +sf2)
+1 for Skylar @ CMJ (+kissing, +sf2)

 

[Stagg]

+1 for Ivy at CMJ. She was amazing feom start to finish

 

[BiffC]

Fair enough.

 

[andflemcol]

+1 for Amara@brass

 

[Fly By Night]

Hey Guys -

Any good recommendations at Paradise Spa & Angel's Touch - was wondering if anyone had the pleasure of Autumn?

Thanks.

 

[noface818]

+1 for Phoebee @ Brass (+kissing, +SF2).

 

[RockNRollMachin]

I’m going to fully disagree with you on this, I don’t always offer body slides but everything else is always.

The criteria is :
Friendly service
Body slides
Touching allowed
Shower play, if requested


The only thing I didn’t give you was body slides. Just because you didn’t get one thing doesn’t warrant me a -1

I do not always give body slides. Everything else I give, showers, touching, DfK, and friendly service

It might not warrant a -1 in your own definition of GFE Kitten, but according to the very OP of this thread it does, and I quote :

"For the purposes of the list, the “low bar” definition of GFE will be honoured as outlined below:

Friendly service
Body slides
Touching allowed
Shower play, if requested

These four criteria SHOULD be the benchmark of any employed MA. Because the bar was purposely set "low", theoretically it served as a reliable threshold for MAs who were promising, consistent, friendly, and playful. GFE is more about "positive attitude" than "services". It is harmful to the list if the bar is raised by including kissing or other YMMV services beyond this threshold (which should not be lawfully discussed anyway)."

Unless I guess cuddlebuddy explicitly stated he didn't want bodyslides of course...

 

[CuddleBuddy2]

I've decided to not vote for my experience with Kitten Kinkie. I think the - 1 might be unfair.

However I will leave a quick review of my experience here.

Decent massage, friendly MA, good kisser, touching allowed, No Body slides ( not advertised and told based on connection and repeat sessions) No SF2 received ( Ran out of hot water).

Miscommunication and bad timing led to disappointment. I'm sure she's fun otherwise. YMMV

 

[Franz27]

I too had a negative experience with KK. I didn’t give her a - as it was just a weird time. We should feel free to review here as we like without feeling pressure from girls or questioned.

 

[lagaffe]

I get that 100%, I do not advertise that i do body slides...And the OP took part in everything else.
I was shocked the he wanted to just leave after he finished...

I just dont understand where the -1 came from. We kissed, laughed, talked, there was touching and a finish.
I would love a proper explanation on why I get a -1 when I offered a GFE service he took part in...

If I were you I would stop arguing.... you only make your case worst... Most of us who are in this thread wanting a GFE massage expect the body rub, that's what the "minimum criteria" means. What you're saying is if we go to see you, it's going to be depending if you like us, feel like it, or otherwise. So for us, it's hit and miss.

You have to understand that a body rub is something that is basically free, in real life, and is done by mutual sympathy by the women we are with (when we date one!). When we pay a professional it's because, for all kind of reasons, we can't get it for free. So what you are telling us is "pay, but it's going to be by mutual sympathy". Why should we do this? Would you go see a professional massage therapist ho would tell you "I don't always do back massage, but I do everything else"? If you do need a back massage, you would probably see someone else. Surprising as it may be, to some of us (including myself) the body rub is the heart of the erotic massage, it is what we anticipate and appreciate.

I totally get that you may be attracted to some clients, may be totally not attracted by others and even totally repulsed by some. You are a human being and it's normal. But please understand that if someone needs and pays for a service and is not receiving it in the end because "you don't always do it", they may be disappointed and give you a -1 for this...

 

[Franz27]

Perhaps she should take it private with these issues...

 

[JohnnyFever]

Perhaps she should take it private with these issues...

According to her Twitter feed, she just went DNR.

 

[Franz27]

According to her Twitter feed, she just went DNR.

I’m curious if this typically happens after a bad review?

 

[lagaffe]

She can have the DNR she wants, in the end the services she offers is totally her business, but the reviews we write are totally our business.....

I understand she's had no shows and had to kick out some clients, but how many of us had bait and switch or overpromise and underdeliver? It's a two way street. It's her body, but it's also our hardly earned money.....

Anyhow, let's move on....

 

[@VitaminD]

+ 1 for Lexie at Brass.. super nice and cute...but close the door and watch out .. she checks all the boxes and non rushed had a drink with her at the bar and chatted for bit.. great smile +1 for sure

 

[stevelikeschocolate]

+1 for Arianna @CMJ (+kissing +SF2). A gorgeous young latina who provided a very enjoyable session.

 

[lowwer]

+1 for Scarlett @CMJ. Better then her photos and an amazing session.

 

[JohnnyFever]

SF2 and body slides are MA 101 services, I've never not gotten those when visiting CMJ or Brass. Maybe I'm just lucky or some of the other spas are different, but I've always considered those basic to the session. Even the almost meaningless GFE baseline for this thread includes them.

There has been some miscommunication and misunderstanding on my part leading to my disappointing session with Kitten and I would like to explain it. I've been wanting to meet KK since last year. However due to her past restrictions, ID requirement, location and schedule I couldn't meet her earlier. When I contacted her in October last year, she told me she offered SF2, some Body Slides etc. at her old rate. Also when I started a thread on Simulated FS info, KK reached out to me on terb that she offered it. Just to be clear I wasn't expecting PS from her. All this led me to believe that she was fine with atleast basic body slides and SF2 when I booked her recently. When I didn't receive those expected services I was disappointed. I should have confirmed the services with her before booking, so it's partly my fault for assuming about services. For that I apologize to KK.

BS and SF2 together are not necessary for me to enjoy a session, if I know before booking. One of my favourite retired MAs didn't offer SF2 or kissing but offered an excellent massage and Body Slides, and I repeated with her many times. However her rates were also lower than the Spas. Another Spa favourite didn't offer Body Slides, but offered fun SF2, kissing and reverse massage. Both experiences got a +1 from me. Also another Indy MA I've met doesn't offer SF2, kissing or Body Slides but I've repeated with her as I know what she offers before hand at a lower rate. When services offered are clear there are less chances of disappointments IMO.

So lesson learnt here is to inquire and confirm services when you book, because services might change over time. However I hope that if confirmed services were not offered due to reasons beyond an MAs full control like no SF2 ( because of no hot water), then the client should be reimbursed part of the fee. I personally wouldn't accept it but would be a nice gesture from the provider. I feel clients book reputable providers because we expect some level of good service or we could just book any random provider off of Leolist/Kijiji for a lower rate.

I prefer not to give my terb handle or discuss it during the session as I don't want to receive good or bad service because of it. Although some ladies have figured it out but I don't expect service different from any other respectful client. Hope that clears things up a bit more and we can move on from this.

 

[toine]

thanks all for the interesting diversion, but can we go back to the point of this thread? pretty please, thanks, and welcome!

 

[stevelikeschocolate]

A repeat +1 for Lucy @CMJ (+SF2, +kissing)