The need to raise taxes...
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Raising taxes is a four letter word. We didn't get Mr. Kerry for president cause he wanted a 50 cents a gallon gas tax, good thing huh, gas is so cheap now
In his typical witless myopia the short answer for lange and his cohorts is YES!DonQuixote said:
Just put it on the credit card for their kids & grandkids to pay.
Their chant, "I got mine, fu*k you"....
Since you are on welfare raising taxes doesn't affect you......so I perfectly understand why you are all for paying more...WoodPeckr said:In his typical witless myopia the short answer for lange and his cohorts is YES!
Just put it on the credit card for their kids & grandkids to pay.
Their chant, "I got mine, fu*k you"....
If you can back up of what I supposedly think or have said with some more then just talk Id take your accusations a bit more serious..but as always you just make up stuff..none of those thing you say about me are true....I guess comprehension is your strenght.DonQuixote said:
DQ and Woodpecker are prime examples of why the US goverment gets away with murder.
Instead of calling the issue of increased taxation for what it is.."the result of an incompetent goverment" they make it in to a R against D issue.
In the meantime they don't realize they are being screwed by their own goverment...y taking more and more money from that..further they have a limited view of their own country..otherwise they would have noticed that there is only one thing that is consistent about all the goverments over the past 300 years...they are inefficent..don't care about there people and have consistently raised taxes for ever diminishing services.....but let's keep this a Republican vs Democrat issue..right..
Instead of calling the issue of increased taxation for what it is.."the result of an incompetent goverment" they make it in to a R against D issue.
In the meantime they don't realize they are being screwed by their own goverment...y taking more and more money from that..further they have a limited view of their own country..otherwise they would have noticed that there is only one thing that is consistent about all the goverments over the past 300 years...they are inefficent..don't care about there people and have consistently raised taxes for ever diminishing services.....but let's keep this a Republican vs Democrat issue..right..
Maybe goverment should show restrain in spending..raising taxes is the easy way out..and BTW what % of your taxes do you deem to beDonQuixote said:
a fair share..if you add all the taxes and fees after your income tax we are close to hitting 50%...tell me what % is enough...based on your rhetoric the sky is the limit.
The war did cost a lot of money, but if you think that the war is the biggest strain..then you really need a reality check...based on last estimates the elderly care alone will eat up 4 Trillion dollars of the budget in 10 years from now...this will make Iraq look like pocket change...
You cry about pay as you go???..ok how are we going to pay for this???
I think that is actually flat wrong. I think you can increase revenue by sending jobs overseas. Your wording is inflammatory but another way of saying the same thing would be you can increase revenue by having each nation specialize on what it is good at--sending overseas the jobs it is not good at, and importing the jobs it is good at.DonQuixote said:
I'm not sure how much better if at all this proposal is, but it does seem to have some merit. http://www.fairtax.org/site/PageServerfrasier said:
Why does it imply that?DonQuixote said:
Your claim is tantamount to saying that there is a conflict between specialization and innovation. On the contrary, I think specialists produce the best innovations.
That mentality is wrong. Work forces around the world collectively contribute to the global economy. Workers compete with one another within the United States as much as with workers in other countries. Plainly competition is a core capitalist value.
On the other hand if you think that at a macro level a gain in one part of the world is a loss in some other then you have a completely wrong view of how the world economy works.
I agree with that, nevertheless, sending jobs overseas is often the most efficient decision. Hamstringing American companies by limiting their ability to compete on a level field with foreign ones will only hurt you.
If you did want to keep some of the labour intensive jobs in the United States then one way to do that would be to open the border to workers from anywhere in the world. You could then specialize parts of the American economy on labour intensive manufacturing.
Of course that would require an end to a protectionist view of borders (to allow the foreign workers in) and an end to minimum wage and other similar laws (so that they could be paid the going world wage for that work).
Some tasks can be optimized through improved technology. Other tasks are still more efficiently performed by a low paid workers.
In other cases the tasks sent overseas are high tech good jobs but they are going because the destination economy has specialized in that particular area.
It does not make sense for America to try and specialize in every single industry. It makes sense for each individual player in the world market to become the best at one thing and trade with others who are the best at other things.
I think the higher the tax rate the less competitive an economy is, thus the faster jobs will flee to lower cost more competitive economies. To hear DQ rail for tax increases and against jobs moving over seas means he doesn't really understand the issue.fuji said:
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Great quote by Mike Huckabee on the tax rebates:
"Let me get this straight. Our government is going to borrow money from the Chinese that we'll have to pay back with interest in order to give it to people to purchase products that are most likely made in China. Just who's economy are we stimulating?"
"Let me get this straight. Our government is going to borrow money from the Chinese that we'll have to pay back with interest in order to give it to people to purchase products that are most likely made in China. Just who's economy are we stimulating?"
The word tax rebate is an oxymoron anyway..this whole idea is just stupid it has no economic value only a "marketing value"...so our politicians can pretend they actually "do soemthing"ocean976124 said:
You didn't ask for it, but I'll give my response. The small percentage of American GDP that goes to imports (something like 12%) represent a leakage from the circular flow. It would reduce the multiplier effect of the tax rebates, as do other leakages like savings. However, given what a small percentage of GDP imports make up for the U.S., it is not important. There are much better arguments that can be made against Keynesian economics. However, Huckabee does not seem that bright, so he likely has not heard of them.DonQuixote said:
Oh I don't know, it seems the per capita GDP in Canada is MUCH lower than in the US, and that's with a tremendous raw materials export business.....DonQuixote said:
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