The Great Debate

Who won the great debate?

  • Harris

    Votes: 71 78.9%
  • Trump

    Votes: 9 10.0%
  • Both were bad with no winner

    Votes: 8 8.9%
  • Both were good with no winner

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • Total voters
    90

Big Rig

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Trump vs Harris is not the normal debate as this one could well determine the election as it is tied.

Harrris is still new to the public and has been avoiding the press in order to get her act together and Trump may go off the rails with his rambling nonsense and dementia

I do not see Harris as a brilliant debater or even speaker when
she is off the teleprompter and Trump could not even beat Biden as Biden lost that debate Trump did not win

Trump always loses debate as he makes up whopper lies on the spot but his tactics work with the MAGA crowd

Harris has taken the path of being a being a feeling good candidate not about
being a good President but that is been thought out as people
vote on how they feel about a candidate

Will Trump stay on point? Will Harris attack Trump or talk about her plans?


Cast vote after tonights debate
 
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jalimon

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Who cares who wins the debate.

It's anyway too late.

Many voters cannot vote in many states because they are felons. Yet one of the 2 candidates is a felon (and a known lifetime fraud and cheater). Just having him still in the ballot is a disgrace.

The US is in huge decline. I have travelled it intensively for many years. Canada is in decline as well but we will fair just a tad bit better because of our social security measures.

I teach my kids (who are almost adults) to prepare a move to Asia, Portugal, Spain, Italy, and maybe even Mexico...

People expect what from that debate? Fuck it there are already way too many Trump and maga wagnuts...
 
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Who cares who wins the debate.

It's anyway too late.

Many voters cannot vote in many states because they are felons. Yet one of the 2 candidates is a felon (and a known lifetime fraud and cheater). Just having him still in the ballot is a disgrace.

The US is in huge decline. I have travelled it intensively for many years. Canada is in decline as well but we will fair just a tad bit better because of our social security measures.

I teach my kids (who are almost adults) to prepare a move to Asia, Portugal, Spain, Italy, and maybe even Mexico...

People expect what from that debate? Fuck it there are already way too many Trump and maga wagnuts...
The US is the last hope for success. Where capitalism and freedom prevail is where people should move if they want a chance at controlling their future and rising up to upper class. I don’t see any country overtaking the US as long as Trump wins.

You can call him what you want but he’s not a socialist. If a felon will keep socialism out, I will vote for the felon. Most politicians are felons who haven’t been caught.

By the way, Canada is garbage compared to the US. Too many garbage people were allowed in your country over the last few decades.
 

jalimon

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The US is the last hope for success. Where capitalism and freedom prevail is where people should move if they want a chance at controlling their future and rising up to upper class. I don’t see any country overtaking the US as long as Trump wins.

You can call him what you want but he’s not a socialist. If a felon will keep socialism out, I will vote for the felon. Most politicians are felons who haven’t been caught.

By the way, Canada is garbage compared to the US. Too many garbage people were allowed in your country over the last few decades.
Yet what the US needs is socialist measures (which moron always confound with socialism...). The US or Canada cannot have so many poor. We are a society of the middle class.

Trump is the enemy of the middle class.

You need to learn about people like Trump. They see themselves as superior and the lives of anyone around them is not important.

Why the fuck do you think he was all smile with a thumb up in a pic over the grave of a deceased military? He does not give a fuck that's way.
 

Mr Deeds

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The US is the last hope for success. Where capitalism and freedom prevail is where people should move if they want a chance at controlling their future and rising up to upper class. I don’t see any country overtaking the US as long as Trump wins.

You can call him what you want but he’s not a socialist. If a felon will keep socialism out, I will vote for the felon. Most politicians are felons who haven’t been caught.

By the way, Canada is garbage compared to the US. Too many garbage people were allowed in your country over the last few decades.
Then get off this site and go hang out with the rest of the brain washed, uneducated hillbilly red necks down there in the good old USA where it's OK to slaughter children in school, let people die from inadequate health care, promote wealth for the few and poverty for the many and support a convicted criminal to be president.
 

RZG

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Then get off this site and go hang out with the rest of the brain washed, uneducated hillbilly red necks down there in the good old USA where it's OK to slaughter children in school, let people die from inadequate health care, promote wealth for the few and poverty for the many and support a convicted criminal to be president.
For the most part that sounds like Canada too.. Looks like that evil bitch in Durham was sizing up a school shooting, online threats, 18 guns and 1000 rounds at home. Just a matter of time and it will be here too. Trudeau isn`t a convicted criminal but with all his ethics breaches and Chinese communist ass licking and flooding our country with third world criminal vermin and financial ruin, he should be held accountable.
 

xmontrealer

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To me (and I'll vote after the debate), the US is fucked because of the Second Amendment, and the fact that approx. 50% of personal bankruptcies are due to people who cannot afford or qualify for proper health insurance getting ill (as most of us eventually do) and requiring medical care that should be publicly funded, but is not. Not to mention Americans being far more "tribal" with general political polarization/racism/religionism in general compared to Canadians...
 
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silentkisser

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The debate in June between Trump and Biden moved the needle a lot. I'm not sure this one will. I don't think Harris will have a bad night. She took Pence to the cleaners in 2020, and I don't know how Trump will respond. If he continues to lash out in misogynistic or racists ways, I think he's going to fuck himself. Will he be able to string together coherent responses? Did anyone catch him speaking a few days ago when asked about child care???

This is such a different game compared to June. Harris is a lawyer, and is trained in debate. Trump is a gifted bullshitter who will try to flood the field with outright lies or twisted fabrications. And I think both will be looking to score zingers...

I think I'll actually watch this tonight.

Also, its kind of weird to open the poll nearly 12 hours before the debate actually starts...
 

altid13

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Trump vs Harris is not the normal debate as this one could well determine the election as it is tied.

Harrris is still new to the public and has been avoiding the press in order to get her act together and Trump may go off the rails with his rambling nonsense and dementia

I do not see Harris as a brilliant debater or even speaker when
she is off the teleprompter and Trump could not even beat Biden as Biden lost that debate Trump did not win

Harris has taken the path of being a being a feeling good candidate not about
being a good President but that is been thought out as people
vote on how they feel about a candidate

Will Trump stay on point? Will Harris attack Trump or talk about her plans?


Cast vote after tonights debate
Can you add a I don't care option?
 

Mr Deeds

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For the most part that sounds like Canada too.. Looks like that evil bitch in Durham was sizing up a school shooting, online threats, 18 guns and 1000 rounds at home. Just a matter of time and it will be here too. Trudeau isn`t a convicted criminal but with all his ethics breaches and Chinese communist ass licking and flooding our country with third world criminal vermin and financial ruin, he should be held accountable.
I can't say I disagree, american culture is very infectious
 
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Then get off this site and go hang out with the rest of the brain washed, uneducated hillbilly red necks down there in the good old USA where it's OK to slaughter children in school, let people die from inadequate health care, promote wealth for the few and poverty for the many and support a convicted criminal to be president.

First of all shut the fuck up about slaughtering children in school. What’s wrong with your head that you’d say something like that. Americans didn’t do that. Some confused trans/gay kid did.


That’s what’s wrong with you crackhead liberals. You think it’s ok to talk like that as long you are virtue signaling for the poor and feeble.

Also, I didn’t let all those shit people invade your country. You have your government to thank for that. You need someone to ship them back and maybe Canada won’t be such a shithole.
 
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Yet what the US needs is socialist measures (which moron always confound with socialism...). The US or Canada cannot have so many poor. We are a society of the middle class.

Trump is the enemy of the middle class.

You need to learn about people like Trump. They see themselves as superior and the lives of anyone around them is not important.

Why the fuck do you think he was all smile with a thumb up in a pic over the grave of a deceased military? He does not give a fuck that's way.
People aren’t equal. They never were. Elitism and superiority are very real.That’s where socialism and socialist policies fail. The strong don’t want to wait for the rest to catch up.

But the good thing about capitalism is that your social standing is not set in stone. Even in a corrupt capitalistic society, the poor can rise up to be strong if they try hard enough.

A perfect example are Indians. Most came from middle class Indian families, studied until their head heart, came to America, and rose to the top.
 
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richaceg

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Yet what the US needs is socialist measures (which moron always confound with socialism...). The US or Canada cannot have so many poor. We are a society of the middle class.

Trump is the enemy of the middle class.

You need to learn about people like Trump. They see themselves as superior and the lives of anyone around them is not important.

Why the fuck do you think he was all smile with a thumb up in a pic over the grave of a deceased military? He does not give a fuck that's way.
If Trump is the "enemy" of the middle class...maybe look into how the influx of illegals and what it did to the middle class...the working class were the first to get hit...Trillions of money were spent on undocumented leaving the middle class / working class high and dry...
 

Insidious Von

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There are three times more guns in the USA than people, either way Trump will make America burn.

His supporters are already stockpiling weapons if the election doesn't go their way.
 
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The debate in June between Trump and Biden moved the needle a lot. I'm not sure this one will. I don't think Harris will have a bad night. She took Pence to the cleaners in 2020, and I don't know how Trump will respond. If he continues to lash out in misogynistic or racists ways, I think he's going to fuck himself. Will he be able to string together coherent responses? Did anyone catch him speaking a few days ago when asked about child care???

This is such a different game compared to June. Harris is a lawyer, and is trained in debate. Trump is a gifted bullshitter who will try to flood the field with outright lies or twisted fabrications. And I think both will be looking to score zingers...

I think I'll actually watch this tonight.

Also, its kind of weird to open the poll nearly 12 hours before the debate actually starts...
I understand that you think lawyers or DA’s are good at debate and arguing. This is a fair assumption but it’s not true that all are. I’ve seen enough of Harris to know that she is going to crumble tonight. Unless she was able to fly to Oz in the last few days and get a brain.
 
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richaceg

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I really wanted to see Harris do the lady boss "I'm speaking"....why are they muting the mics?
 
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