The Fifth Estate's bio of Dick Cheney

[tompeepin]

Did anyone watch the Fifth Estate on CBC last night?

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/dickcheney/

(Yes Americanson the CBC is a pinko threat.)

I then watched Turning Points on The History Channel, about the United Fruit Company's involvement in getting the CIA to oust Arbenz in Guatemala in 1954. Hmmm could Haliberton today be like the United Fruit Company and many other US big corporations of the past?

I mused at how big corporations with influence in Washington now exploit "terrorism" as they did "communism" in the past. The masses need a focus and a threat to fear.

Can a determined "terrorist" really be stopped. And all this talk about WMDs. What about the former USSR's stockpiles that are poorly guarded or unaccounted for, as well as the corruption and organized crime there? Should the US invade former USSR block countries, due to WMDs? What about the US ports which are so poorly guarded due to the logistics and thus the sheer cost involved. Shouldn't we really be more afraid of that than of Saddam?

Oh, Let's not think too much. Stick with principal. "Terrorism" MUST be STOPPED at all costs! For our very Liberty! Yes for our very Freedom! Terrorism is the new communism. And if terrorism disappeared we would have to create a new enemy. How else would we link our opponents (the ones we created) like Saddam with?

Oh yeah Muffie, no need to have any respect for me, because I just used two completely fictional TV programs as the basis of my political musings.

Oh yeah, I wonder what CBC's program Sex Traffic on Sunday night will be like. Yes this one will be truly "fictional".

 

[Berlin]

Saw that last night.

Thumbs up for that story.
Thumbs down for VP Dicky.

 

[banshie]

It's a pity the folks south of the border won't get to see it.

 

[langeweile]

Thanks BBK for being so considered.

 

[tompeepin]

Re: Re: The Fifth Estate's bio of Dick Cheney

... Is the CBC used sometimes for a political purpose (to sway public opinion)?

bbk

I better run to factcheck.com err factcheck.org err fatchick.org ...

... damn where can one just get the facts?

Was anything in the CBC report not factual? Sure they put their spin on in. But what about the "facts"?

 

[langeweile]

Disclaimer: I did not intend to hurt any "sensitive" member's tender "feelings" with these remarks

Sorry..bbk I had the wrong guy

 

[wollensak]

Yeah, I saw the Bio. Most of this stuff is old news. This administration stinks to high heaven. Cheney is probably the most corrupt VP since Sprio Agnew. The chickens are coming home to roost for the R's, but Cheney will walk away from it all.

Trouble with US politics is that these liars are never held to account.

 

[incognito]

Saw that report last night too and confirmed my suspicions. Dick Chaney is running things. He's the puppet master, telling bush what to do. I suspect he wanted a was with Iraq even before he became VP. The most powerful man is not the leader, it's the man behind him.

Incognito

 

[danmand]

Heck, even my liberal canadian friends are embarassed by the cbc and have actually apologized.

You have liberal friends, hmmm I guess that your definition of liberal is a bit different than the usual one.

PS: Actually, regarding Afganistan, the US never turned over any evidince against OBL to the Taliban government.

 

[tompeepin]

danmand you gotta get with the program and only watch FoxNews

... I guess that your definition of liberal is a bit different than the usual one.

Hey danmand don't worry about americansin. He lives in the "no spin zone" and is always "fair and blanced" .

To him a liberal is a dirty word for anyone left of extreme right.

 

[happywanderer]

"War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives."

"A few profit – and the many pay. But there is a way to stop it. You can't end it by disarmament conferences. You can't eliminate it by peace parleys at Geneva. Well-meaning but impractical groups can't wipe it out by resolutions. It can be smashed effectively only by taking the profit out of war."

http://lexrex.com/enlightened/articles/warisaracket.htm

Just 2 quotes from a fellow named Darlington Smedley Butler who saw through all the "bullshite" years ago. Here's a link to who this very honourable and later on, much maligned person was...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler

and

http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/Chronicles/July2002/0702Stooksbury.html


TTFN

 

[banshie]

In Catch 22 Milo Minderbinder sold weapons to both sides, and then organized battles so that they would have to buy more from him. When I read the book I thought that idea was funny but very farfetched. But now we have Cheney ....

 

[danmand]

You know, I'm pretty critical of the U.S., GWB and the current regime and its policies but even I can't believe how much negative stuff is coming out about the U.S. from the CBC on both t.v. and radio.

Ypu are pointing to a real important issue. After WWII and all through the cold war, the USA was looked to for leadership by everybody in the free world, and after 9/11 a huge wave of sympathy was directed towards it. After the invasion in IRAQ, it has all changed.

If you are surprised of what the CBC sends about the uS, try to read what is being written around the world.

 

[banshie]

I can't believe how much negative stuff is coming out about the U.S. from the CBC on both t.v. and radio.

The negative stuff, as you call it, is not related to the U.S. per se, but to the policies and (lack of) achievements of the current administration. Given their record over the last four years, I'm surprised there isn't more negative reaction.

 

[tompeepin]

You know, I'm pretty critical of the U.S., GWB and the current regime and its policies but even I can't believe how much negative stuff is coming out about the U.S. from the CBC on both t.v. and radio.

It really is about perspective. We are three weeks away from an important election, which will affect world affairs. Many news organizations internationally are very focused on it and all related issues.

Some might say the same thing about PBS and well ... yes CBS.

PBS's Frontline was very interesting last night.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/choice2004/

It was interesting to hear John Kerry's exact words before the Iraq invasion, and why he was voting the way he was to give the President the powers for war. Too bad all these clips are not being used by the media, instead of sound bites of the partisan spin doctors.

 

[banshie]

Too bad all these clips are not being used by the media, instead of sound bites of the partisan spin doctors.

That's because of the intellect and the attention span of the average voter. This is not a dig against Americans, because I think it's true here also.

It has been shown time and time again that one can be too intelligent to be elected! That happened in 2000, and could easily happen again this year.