it was painful 20 odd years ago- the first time I heard him, but I guess it takes some longer to figure out that they're being played.
The Disturbing Gospel of Pierre Poilievre
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Poilievre is a breath of fresh air in Canadian politics. He's focused on solving problems that the Federal government can actually help solve. Unlike 99% of the dullards on Parliament Hill, when he speaks he makes sense. No wonder he's such a threat to incompetent politicians and bureaucrats, and is reviled by the corrupt media. I think he's swayed me away from having to vote PPC again.
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Again. Nobody really voted Justin in…. We voted Harper out. Next election Justin will be voted out, regardless of who the Conservatives put in place.
This is true and your points are excellent, but I have a strong feeling JT knows Canadians will be fatigued with him by the time 2025 rolls around, and I think he will hand the reigns over to Freeland. Whether Canadians are JT fatigued or Liberal Party fatigued, only time will tell.
Quebec will, no doubt, be the big decider -- the 50 or so Toronto ridings will almost certainly be, as usual, Conservative-free, but Quebec might like PP for his French language abilities.
I agree that JT steps down. Who ever the next leader is, be it Freeland or Carney, or anyone…. They have to wear the brand. The Liberals will be punished.
If history is an indicator, abt 10 years of Liberal rule followed by abt 10 years of Tory rule is the norm.
No matter what, I think the winner of the 2025 election will have a minority government.
That said, if PP is elected Tory leader, my guess is that it will be a very short-lived minority government, I'm talking a return of 1979 for the Cons, unless PP decides to moderate his views.
Let's be honest, PP's brand of conservatism is the Alberta-Saskatchewan brand of conservatism, which does not sit well with Canadians outside of those provinces.
Here is what I don’t know. What PP’s economic understanding? Is he really the crayon level based on what he is blaming the countries problems on… or is he smarter than that, and just being opportunistic? (Cause we all know immigration and the housing bubble started in 2015, right?). But that’s what he’s peddling. All our problems are because of money printing and liberal policies. I bet I can find posts of mine on here when Harper was PM were I stated his entire economic policy was Alberta Oil, and immigration.
Canadians are feeling the pinch though. Real Estate is through the stratosphere. It affects mortgages, rents… and the commercial side as well. Manufacturing and farming. Supply chains. Retailers. All have real estate costs rising, and they are passing costs onto consumers. PP won’t be telling you that story. Lol. Nope. Liberal money printing.
Canada has some serious challenges. To fix them, we need to honestly take a step back and clearly identify them. That’s not happening. I would sound racist to say we need to fix our immigration system in any detail. And the Real Estate industry as a whole are kinda corrupt. That’s not being addressed either.
If PP becomes PM… nothing gets fixed.
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Peepee represents the angry white minority of the anti vaxxer convoy. Even now he's ranting about 'freedom' from things like masks and carbon taxes, not to mention reality.
If he's leader the party won't win a minority even.
There is a lot of area in Quebec that PP can win. Montreal rich anglophone areas (the whole west) are die hard liberals but many other area of can turn NDP (to disrupt the liberal vote) or even conservative. The whole quebec city area, along with Beauce and eastern township can easily turn conservator.
This is the best descriptor for what's going on. The shame is that many people don't know that they are screwing themselves. Gotta luv it.
socialist economics 101- the successful investors are responsible for the housing crisis. Not the red tape in the new construction approval, the oceans of cheap money driven.by the government monetary polices, the shortage of trades, the price of labor, the inflationary pressures on everything, the immigration policies that channel hundreds of thousands of newcomers into main urban centers or the residential rental policies that make rental developments unattractive and superfluous.
and what has Doug Ford done about most of the issues you've raised on the cost of housing?
He has done as much as Justin did on the fed level or Wynn/McGuinty did in the decade before- exactly fuck all.
and Harris and Harper, do you not include these two fellas in the piss pot.
There was a housing crisis in Harris years? How old are you? Are you old enough to be here? ID check, anyone?
The housing crises is only a crises depending on which side of the fence you're on. As a owner of many properties, I enjoyed the prices going up and seeing my holdings grow. If one is a first time buyer entering the market then yes, it's a crises in their eyes. If one is selling and buying it's all relative, you know, sell high buy high, sell low buy low.
As for the Harris era, tell me, what has Justin and Ford done differently that caused the "crisis"? What crazy far lefty policies have they implemented that Harris did not?
God, I wish I was 18 again and know what I know now!!!!!!
What a myopic outlook. You and I and thousands of others, we took advantage of the idiotic monetary policy of near zero interest rates and inadequate supply of properties. But, it hardly makes it right or even desirable for the function of the healthy economy. A basic need for affordable shelter has become a vehicle for speculation with the political class cheering along while pointing to the fake growth statistics and collecting cream from the top. Fuck! I talk like a socialist, but only because this is a dead end street and a terrible strategy that will end very badly.
