I keep hearing this but the fence around Gaza is not a border.they have a right to defend their boarder I'm not a big fan of Israel but spend some time in the area and you will understand why they need to defend themselves
LOL. You are the one who says that PM Begin and others were terrorist BECAUSE they were in the Irgun etc. Not that they used to be terrorists. And Avnery is describing conduct in the past not today. So you must be agreeing that the so called protesters are terrorists but perhaps one day they will cease to be.Are you one of the posters who claim that once a terrorist always a terrorist?
Or do you think that, like some Israeli politicians, you can turn away from terrorism and become a law abiding politician?
And does that also apply to Hamas?
But we wouldn’t care, see AfricaHamas.Take Israel out of the middle east and they would still be cutting each others throats.
False, I point out that they used to be terrorist (though Netanyahu now commits state terrorism, so....)LOL. You are the one who says that PM Begin and others were terrorist BECAUSE they were in the Irgun etc. Not that they used to be terrorists. And Avnery is describing conduct in the past not today. So you must be agreeing that the so called protesters are terrorists but perhaps one day they will cease to be.
Yeah except they still execute or kneecap dissenters....Hamas has committed acts of terrorism and in the last few years, like those previous examples, has mostly moved away from using terrorism...So yes, I agree that people can move away from terrorism.
LOL. Why don't you point out a post of yours in which you refer to any Israeli leader as a former terrorist without the suggestion that he is tainted by that association.False, I point out that they used to be terrorist (though Netanyahu now commits state terrorism, so....)
The IRA were terrorists, Mandela was called a terrorist, quite a few Israeli politicians started as terrorists.
Hamas has committed acts of terrorism and in the last few years, like those previous examples, has mostly moved away from using terrorism.
People like Basketcase here rely on calling Hamas terrorists, he uses it as an excuse to justify shooting civilians and running Gaza as the world's largest open air prison.
So yes, I agree that people can move away from terrorism.
So does Saudi Arabia yet they are supposed to be a acceptable ally.Yeah except they still execute or kneecap dissenters.
It's an obscenity to include Nelson Mandela in the same sentence as human detritus such as Menachim Begin and Yitzak Shamir. Mandela ended apartheid while Begin and Shamir entrenched it. Neither ever gave up on terrorism and simply graduated to using the apparatus of the state to continue the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians required to realize the Zionist dream.LOL. Why don't you point out a post of yours in which you refer to any Israeli leader as a former terrorist without the suggestion that he is tainted by that association.
And yes Hamas is a roister organization. Not sure why you cant simply own that fact. Oh right because it doesn't fit your narrative.
LOL. gryphon where have you been. Ever the pathetic clown.It's an obscenity to include Nelson Mandela in the same sentence as human detritus such as Menachim Begin and Yitzak Shamir. Mandela ended apartheid while Begin and Shamir entrenched it. Neither ever gave up on terrorism and simply graduated to using the apparatus of the state to continue the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians required to realize the Zionist dream.