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THE DAUGHTER has been ARRESTED in the Fatal Markham Home Invasion.

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No... but the fact that she's doing it should be HUGE red flag casting doubt on her sanity/judgemen/etct,




If it prevents the above? Fuck YES
The laws of the land will judge her on her actions at trial, not on her affiliations and if she is tried by a jury, the jury will not likely be filled with the likes of many of the low level posters in here or there will be a mistrial. Miss Pan is accountable for her actions unless she is insane. A woman was murdered, her daughter charged and interacial sex, if it occured, is no excuse in law or a mitigating factor to the charge of murder. More information will come out in this trial and it seems that Miss Pan was long ago corrupted an is responsible for her own actions. It is a risk in immigrating to Canada that daddy's little girl will experience dicks of a different race than daddys........
 

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Does this mean that no Asian males were dumb enough to get involved in this shit?
Not this time.

Not to relegate this role to one race or another, just in this case she had black guys and a white guy but I kinda picture the Garth Algars of the world being the best dupes. Holding his girlfriends gun and mouthing the words, "He's a dead man..."
 

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Heard on the radio this morning that a bunch of hip hop artists said they will de-emphasize guns and gangs in their "music". Two of the 25 young ----- males shot to death so far this year are rappers.
 

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I am speculating that this girl was hanging around with, and probably fucking, some of these gangsters, was into their gangster culture, and had adopted some of their gangster values, and you know it's going to turn out to be true.
I think your speculations are worthless.

Where in the handbook of gangsta culture and values does it say "Thou shall kill one's own parents" which apparently rubbed off on her because, as you say, she ran deep with the gangster crowd ???

Why have an investigation at all? Clearly fuji already knows exactly what happened and why it happened.
 

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Statistically you will find less Asian killers in prison and less Asians recovering from drug and alcohol addiction proportional to the percentage of Asians in the population. They are less prone to these afflictions compared to other ethnic groups.
I dont' know the statistics for crime in Asian countries, but I suspect that you are right about Asian killers. As far as drug and alcohol addiction is concerned, I suspect that you don't see the numbers are low because Asians will not admit the problem or seek help.
 

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I'm also speculating that her willingness to commit such acts of violence is at least partly due to the black gang culture she was obviously engaged with, where such acts of violence are encouraged. The white dude, too, is obviously also a product of that culture.



Sorry but the presence of the Asian girl as the motivator does not mean they are suddenly exonerated from the acts of violence they committed, nor does it change the fact that yet again we have young black men committing acts of violence in our city. Yet again.
Fuji, that is probably the most ignorant thing that I have read in a long time.
 

slowandeasy

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First of all-sociopathy in individuals isn't exclusive to some ethnic/racial groups but some cultures are quite strong on familyvalues /culture/community some are not-this Asian chick was obviously fucked-up psychologically and the wanted her parents dead to get out from under their control and gain their estate as her inheritance-and 3 dirtbags willing to do this is pretty hard to find unless one runs with a really bad crowd.All being said true life imprisonment/death penalty to all 4 will be justice served.
Also alot of these modern/traditional Asian girls are great(I'm Asian myself so no rocks thrown please!)but I've known some/too many that were simply screwed up-self-loathing/self-hating/didn't want to be Asian individuals -add innate sociopathic tendencies,criminal affiliations,drugs/alcohol,sexual/romantic pressures/allure,money-hungry=prescription for disaster.
Finally some intelligent insight. Thanks...
 

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So you're saying that its ok and wise for one to shoot their mouth off before having all the facts about a specific case?

Yes.. two black people were involved... but so was one white person and all on the directive of an asian... the asian is just as guilty as the rest of em.

Clearly the facts weren't all there right out of the gate...even a moron with the IQ of a night table could tell there was more to this story. But no....its all those terrible black people right?

you can broadly focus on race and fragmented information...that'll tell you shit.... I'll focus on all the facts as they pertain to each case; thats a lot more reliable.

good luck in whatever you do
I don't think it's ever wise for someone to shoot their mouth off, (as such i laugh even harder at the irony in you and your moronic reference), and I highly doubt that you, myself, or anyone else reading this thread will ever have all the facts!
Or do you have some greater powers that enable you to be all knowing?
With that, go ahead and focus on whatever you want genius, then keep telling yourself that in your righteous assessment of this story that those of us who call a spade a spade are ignorant, small minded individuals.
As far as me focussing on fragmented info - you should really do some reading/homework before you start making accusations.
Oh and I assure you I do not need luck in what I do - nor do I need YOUR well wishes, ever!
Lastly, IQ is rarely an accurate measure of someones ability to assess a situation such as this.
You are a classic example of that - quite well written, opinionated, and apparently a bright individual who probably would score favourably on an IQ test, yet look at what you have to say!
In reading what I wrote, I don't see anywhere that I said all black people are terrible? Once again thanks for the assessment and your wonderful ability to focus on all the facts.
 

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The laws of the land will judge her on her actions at trial, not on her affiliations and if she is tried by a jury, the jury will not likely be filled with the likes of many of the low level posters in here or there will be a mistrial. Miss Pan is accountable for her actions unless she is insane. A woman was murdered, her daughter charged and interacial sex, if it occured, is no excuse in law or a mitigating factor to the charge of murder. More information will come out in this trial and it seems that Miss Pan was long ago corrupted an is responsible for her own actions. It is a risk in immigrating to Canada that daddy's little girl will experience dicks of a different race than daddys........
hey big guy, you are wasting your breathe, calling out that anal canker, mexi....his posting history is consistant with his views here....a low class racist
 

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Could it be that the daughter had a wild over estimation of the parents worth and brought in several dregs of society to off the parents so that she could live off the inheritance for the rest of her life? This brings to mind one case where several low lifes
sat drinking beers and thinking of ways to get rich fast came up with the idea to rob a Buddhist temple because they believed that the monks kept golden statues to revere the Great Creator. They went into a temple and executed 9 people.

http://www.azcentral.com/12news/new...20081120templemurdersbackground112008-CR.html


http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1084788.html
 

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Fuji, that is probably the most ignorant thing that I have read in a long time.
It's still going to turn out to be correct--it'll come out that the little darling had a gangster boyfriend and gangster friends and was caught up in the same culture of violence.
 

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The true victim here is the daughter....she appears to be a reserved girl...who got sucked into the gangster circle...perhaps became somewhat infatuated with it all..as it was an 'exciting' outlet for her from her mundane family and academic life.

The gangsters would have preyed on that vulnerability...exploited it..and convinced her to do as she did....

The gangsters are to blame here!

Not unlike the nice little boy on the playground who...in an effort to make freinds....constantly gives his luch money to the BULLY...thinking he is being included....but in reality is being used and BULLIED.

And no I am not.....nor do I need a shrink...to figure this all out!
 

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I don't think it's ever wise for someone to shoot their mouth off, (as such i laugh even harder at the irony in you and your moronic reference), and I highly doubt that you, myself, or anyone else reading this thread will ever have all the facts!
Or do you have some greater powers that enable you to be all knowing?
With that, go ahead and focus on whatever you want genius, then keep telling yourself that in your righteous assessment of this story that those of us who call a spade a spade are ignorant, small minded individuals.
As far as me focussing on fragmented info - you should really do some reading/homework before you start making accusations.
Oh and I assure you I do not need luck in what I do - nor do I need YOUR well wishes, ever!
Lastly, IQ is rarely an accurate measure of someones ability to assess a situation such as this.
You are a classic example of that - quite well written, opinionated, and apparently a bright individual who probably would score favourably on an IQ test, yet look at what you have to say!
In reading what I wrote, I don't see anywhere that I said all black people are terrible? Once again thanks for the assessment and your wonderful ability to focus on all the facts.
Well that was a lot of nothing. Show me, Einstein, where I said I was "all knowing". And show me where I said YOU said "all black people are terrible". Point this out to me....oh right you cant...because I didnt. :rolleyes: I'm not going to get into teaching you how to properly read what you see but I'll just say that that was a statement about SOME on this thread in an effort to make a point as part of a rebuttal to what you had said.



Further, if you had even an ounce of acceptable levels of reading comprehension you would see that because I'm NOT all knowing I choose to wait before I pass judgement.

Reading AND Reading comprehension is fundamental.

Lastly, simply saying.... "the assailant was black" is calling a spade a spade and I have no issue wiith that... implying that because the assailant is black that there is a problem with black people in general is NOT calling a spade and spade....it is indeed ignorant...get your head out of your ass (do I have to explain this line too?)
 

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frankie boy, I think you took too many pucks in the head, and have forgotten where you come from.
You and only you are responsible for the actions that you take. "sucked into the gangster circle"? bullshit.
She was looking for the easy way out.

When the plan was made to put a bullet in the head of her parents, at what point did she not realize that this was
the wrong thing to do???
 

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Let this be clear:

Looking at her links to gangster culture is a SOCIOLOGICAL explanation for the crime. It looks at the culture of violence present, and how it influences young people, and leads them to commit crime.

That does not exonerate her or in any way mitigate her crime--she's a murderer, and she deserves to spend the rest of her natural life in jail.

However if we want to prevent OTHER similar murders in the future we need to do something about the culture of violence which formed the context of her crime. From a social policy point of view we need to address the violence arising from black primarily Jamaican youth--and those they influence. From a criminal law perspective individuals are held to account solely for their own actions--and her actions are heinous beyond belief.

At the end of the day even if it's absolutely true that her attitudes were influenced by her gangster friends that is STILL her choice--nobody made her fuck a gangster, nobody forced her to make those friends. She herself made every decision that led, eventually, to the murder of her parents. At the same time that's true for her individually, we as a city have a problem with violence linked to young black men.
 

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Let this be clear:

Looking at her links to gangster culture is a SOCIOLOGICAL explanation for the crime. It looks at the culture of violence present, and how it influences young people, and leads them to commit crime.

That does not exonerate her or in any way mitigate her crime--she's a murderer, and she deserves to spend the rest of her natural life in jail.

However if we want to prevent OTHER similar murders in the future we need to do something about the culture of violence which formed the context of her crime. From a social policy point of view we need to address the violence arising from black primarily Jamaican youth--and those they influence. From a criminal law perspective individuals are held to account solely for their own actions--and her actions are heinous beyond belief.

At the end of the day even if it's absolutely true that her attitudes were influenced by her gangster friends that is STILL her choice--nobody made her fuck a gangster, nobody forced her to make those friends. She herself made every decision that led, eventually, to the murder of her parents. At the same time that's true for her individually, we as a city have a problem with violence linked to young black men.
:confused:

1) How are you so sure they are her friends?

2) What makes you think that killing your parents is part of "gangster life"? Show me all these occurences of gangsters killing their parents. I cant be too sure on this but I'm willing to go out on a limb here and say she likely had a hard time finding guys/gangsters to do this. I dont know many, if any gangsters (and I know/knew quite a few....all ALL races mind you) that think that killing your parents is the thing to do...theres not too many things they wouldnt do but that one is kinda taboo even for them....generally speaking...whens the last time you heard a gangster rapper rap about doing drive bys and oh...popping off their parents.
 

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1) I'm betting. Want to take the bet?

2) Killing, violence, murder, are all part of gangster culture, no matter who the target is. Once you've accepted that murder is a viable answer to your problems it becomes easier to murder ANYONE.
 

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The true victim here is the daughter....she appears to be a reserved girl...who got sucked into the gangster circle...perhaps became somewhat infatuated with it all..as it was an 'exciting' outlet for her from her mundane family and academic life.

The gangsters would have preyed on that vulnerability...exploited it..and convinced her to do as she did....

The gangsters are to blame here!

Not unlike the nice little boy on the playground who...in an effort to make freinds....constantly gives his luch money to the BULLY...thinking he is being included....but in reality is being used and BULLIED.

And no I am not.....nor do I need a shrink...to figure this all out!
Giving lunch money to a bully so that the bully leaves you alone is just like actively plotting and participating in the murder of your own parents?

The daughter who schemed to murder her parents is the victim in all this?

How do you know so much about her already? Are you psychic? You're right, you've got it all figured out.
 

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The true victim here is the daughter....she appears to be a reserved girl...who got sucked into the gangster circle...perhaps became somewhat infatuated with it all..as it was an 'exciting' outlet for her from her mundane family and academic life.

The gangsters would have preyed on that vulnerability...exploited it..and convinced her to do as she did....

The gangsters are to blame here!

Not unlike the nice little boy on the playground who...in an effort to make freinds....constantly gives his luch money to the BULLY...thinking he is being included....but in reality is being used and BULLIED.

And no I am not.....nor do I need a shrink...to figure this all out!
No...but you certainly need a shrink if this is what you think

LOL...some people
 
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