The Da Vinci Spell

[Insidious Von]

Over a decade now, a painting long considered lost re-emerged. Initially it was bought for $10, 000 in the 19th Century, then disappeared in the fog of war again. The painting is Leonardo Da Vinci's Salvator Mundi considered destroyed during The French Revolution. Some art historians have their doubts that it's the genuine article, but that didn't matter. At Christie's Auction House it was smashed the price tag for art, selling for $450 million. So great is the spell of the enigmatic maestro.

 

[Insidious Von]

The full painting.

 

[Zoot Allures]

The orb in left hand does not refract light correctly. Indeed, orb does not seem to refract light at all

Da Vinci was meticulous in scientific accuracy leading some to suspect it may be one of his students work


Painting was originally painted over and has gone through massive restoration by a restorer who took a huge gamble


Christie's Auction House does not guarantee authenticity so private buyer is stuck


Painting sold for 400 million the rest goes to Christie's, guarantors (they guarantee minimum sale price then get a cut if price goes over minimum), insurance, moving fees ... fee may seem a lot but Christies is more interested in the fame it gives them



Yes, it is a depiction of Jesus.

All Da Vinci paintings are loaded with symbolism. Here he makes Jesus look like a hermaphrodite IMHO which gives painting a spooky quality

 

[Insidious Von]

Knowing what a keen observer Leonardo was about the natural world, you make a valid point about the sphere. I was unsure which is why I included the second pic.

Let's remember that if the painting is genuine, Leonardo crafted it a full 100 years before Galileo started making lenses and almost 200 years before Newton's experiments with prisms. It is an error but Leo may not have known better.

 

[MissCroft]

Painting was originally painted over and has gone through massive restoration by a restorer who took a huge gamble

IMO, the face strongly resembles Mona Lisa. Maybe he painted over one of his originals?

 

[Zoot Allures]

IMO, the face strongly resembles Mona Lisa. Maybe he painted over one of his originals?

Has a very feminine look in face, clothing hair and hands . To me he is his saying God is neither male or female and both at the same time

Unsure of the symbolism of the fingers in the right hand


Good point about the Mona Lisa which some feel is a self portrait

Beautiful painting . Very haunting. Jesus seems to be coming out of the darkness to save us from the darkness which only he can enter then come back from


cool painting

 

[Zoot Allures]

Knowing what a keen observer Leonardo was about the natural world, you make a valid point about the sphere. I was unsure which is why I included the second pic.

Let's remember that if the painting is genuine, Leonardo crafted it a full 100 years before Galileo started making lenses and almost 200 years before Newton's experiments with prisms. It is an error but Leo may not have known better.

If it is a Da Vinci then he painted the orb intentionally. Perhaps he is saying Jesus overcomes the laws of nature and light


Crazy how paintings go for so much . Strictly an investment for buyer but 450 million??? Original estimate was 100 million

Seems like a very risky crazy investment esp as some experts are not convinced it is a Da Vinci. Could be done by his students or a collaboration with a student

 

[Insidious Von]

The hand gesture says, Salvator Mundi Alpha Omega. The same gesture was used in the inner sleeve of The Court of the Crimson King by King Crimson.

Albert Einstein said that if he had to decipher the mind of Leonardo, he'd go insane. Sigmund Freud said that leonardo's mind is like a still water black pool that's bottomless.

 

[Smooth60]

It means that through Christ, in Christ, nothing is distorted.

 

[Insidious Von]

Exactly: Jesus Christ, Saviour of the World, I am the end, I am the beginning.

The painting was owned by Francis I of France, it became royal property. It was considered lost during the French Revolution. Leonardo was interred at Notre Dame Cathedral, he tomb was destroyed during the Revolution. So far it's not known who bought the painting.

 

[Zoot Allures]

It means that through Christ, in Christ, nothing is distorted.

I think the orb was not refurbished to its original



those three white dot may be the markings left from a cross that was lost in the refurbishing


thx for the thread IV


I have wondered about the figure in King Crimson

Fripp is a great composer

Saw him give a talk at University

 

[Terminator2000]

The full painting.

to add fuel to the fire:

this has no relation to leonardo da vinci whatsoever. just an off the wall fact.

theyre saying somewhere else in the world that jesus doesnt in fact resemble the paintings of his face. in fact, jesus was very average looking and not with long flowing hair and long flowing beard as depicted in many paintings of him.

 

[malata]

crap, was going to place my bid in at $451 million, but then my smartphone battery went dead

 

[anon1]

crap, was going to place my bid in at $451 million, but then my smartphone battery went dead

Ha ha my 450m bid won!

 

[Terminator2000]

Ha ha my 450m bid won!

you were bidding from a smartphone too?

 

[anon1]

you were bidding from a smartphone too?

That's why I won, better technology.

 

[Zoot Allures]

crap, was going to place my bid in at $451 million, but then my smartphone battery went dead

you are pathetic

painting went for 400 million

the other 50 mil was Christies cut

410 million wold have got you the painting

I was in until 250 mil then backed out as original estimate was 100 mil

some private buyer went crazy

Like where the fuck is he going to put it ? Insurance alone will be millions per year and if it not a Da Vinci, which some experts do not agree on ......

 

[Kirby2006]

It takes two to tango at an auction.
The runner up likely said whew! The buyer probably said wtf did I just do?