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JohnLarue

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Mary-Jean Harris, B.Sc, M.Sc. (Physics), Ottawa, Ontario. Ms. Harris graduated with her Masters degree in Theoretical Physics from the Perimeter Institute in Waterloo in the Perimeter Scholars International Program. She is a business owner, teaching assistant and tutor in mathematics and physics, performer, and author of historical fantasy fiction

rather than attacking the content of the message, the loonies attack her character
the same fools who failed high school physics and virtual signal about feminism

Like I said

They have a pathologically / ideological need to cancel opposing views
 

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Mary-Jean Harris, B.Sc, M.Sc. (Physics), Ottawa, Ontario. Ms. Harris graduated with her Masters degree in Theoretical Physics from the Perimeter Institute in Waterloo in the Perimeter Scholars International Program. She is a business owner, teaching assistant and tutor in mathematics and physics, performer, and author of historical fantasy fiction

rather than attacking the content of the message, the loonies attack her character
the same fools who failed high school physics and virtual signal about feminism

Like I said

They have a pathologically / ideological need to cancel opposing views
Ms Fairytale Princess Birthday's is a perfect choice to present all of larue's fantasy science claims.
Her noble goals of spreading freedom and kindness align perfectly with larue's generous spirit.
Allow me to present more of her legit science work.
“What can you do to spread some pixie dust in your life?” reads another post under an image of the same woman, now dressed as Tinkerbell. “Kindly say NO when people ask you to cover your beautiful face with a mask.”

Anti-Mask Disney Princess Page Targeted At Kids Abruptly Shuts Down
It’s COVID-19 conspiracy theories with a Disney twist.




Here she is echoing larue's statement that its not ok to listen to scientists and doctors.
“We need to have the courage to tell others that this is NOT OKAY,” the caption says. “We need to keep our friends and family close, not far away from us, even if that means speaking up against restrictions that our teachers and leaders are imposing on us.”
 
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Frankfooter

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I dunno, do you think larue is our board's Freedom Prince or Princess?
He does work so awfully hard to stand up for what he thinks is right.

 

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Ned Nikolov, Ph.D.

According to the satellite temperature record, the total warming in 40 years was 0.4 C. The total warming for the past 20 years is 0.0 C! - UAH 6.0: https://nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0.txt… - RSS 4.0: http://data.remss.com/msu/monthly_time_series/RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v04_0.txt
Well within any rational expectation of natural variability





Meanwhile Co2 continues its uninterrupted ascent, despite a massive economic contraction/ emissions reduction last year.
That is not consistent with the alarmists propaganda
Could it be mankind is not responsible for all of the Co2 increases in a very complex carbon cycle ???

The mean atmospheric Co2 concentration is approx. 20-25% higher than 40 years ago and approx. 15% higher than 20 years ago
Producing a temp increase of 0.4 C and 0.0 C respectively ???

This does not add up
Gee I was told the science is settled



Co2 is not the control knob for our very complex climate system
 
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According to the satellite temperature record, the total warming in 40 years was 0.4 C. The total warming for the past 20 years is 0.0 C! - UAH 6.0: https://nsstc.uah.edu/data/msu/v6.0/tlt/uahncdc_lt_6.0.txt… - RSS 4.0: http://data.remss.com/msu/monthly_time_series/RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v04_0.txt

Ned Nikolov, Ph.D.

Well within any rational expectation of natural variability


Co2 is not the control knob for our very complex climate system
1) Satellites measure the temp in the lower troposphere, not on the surface.
2) Comparing warming in the troposphere with surface temperature projections is intentionally dishonest.
3) Accurate readings of satellite temps still show warming
4) Larue complains that 150 year old data sets for global warming aren't long enough while also claiming satellite data, which only goes back as far as 1979, is long enough.

 
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JohnLarue

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And as a follow up

It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
Richard P. Feynman]
https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/richard-p-feynman-quotes
It is always easier to disprove a hypothesis , rather than prove it as the hypothesis must withstand all challenges/ experiments (basic grade 10 science)

And we have both twenty and forty year periods where the experimental data is not consistent with the AGW theory.
That is long enough to reject/ cast doubt on the AGW hypothesis, as a hypothesis requires consistent positive results.
If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.

Especially if the hypothesis explicitly links the expected results (higher Temp) to a single variable which is increasing (higher Co2 concentration) in a very consistent manner


Surface temperature data records the alarmist are hanging their hat on are
1. Too short to make a definitive positive cause and effect conclusion .
2. Incomplete, the planet is two thirds covered in water and most of the land area has next to zero historical data,
3, Filled with errors. The urban Island heat effect and a strong biases towards airport stations ( Gavin Schmidt is likely measuring urbanization trends)
4. has been fiddled with. Environment Canada wiped out a hundred years of data for modelling , in addition stations are moved and station data sets are eliminated from the data based on someone's judgement call
5. The alarmists picked the beginning of the industrial revolution as a starting reference point, probably the coldest period since the little ice age.

The satellite data eliminates these errors save #1 , Too short to make a definitive positive cause and effect conclusion
However twenty and forty year periods are long enough to conclude temperatures do not move in lockstep with CO2, so... something is wrong with the hypothesis
It is always easier to disprove a hypothesis , rather than prove it as the hypothesis must withstand all challenges/ experiments (basic grade 10 science)


Dr. Nikolov graph is clearly labeled as Near Surface temperatures,
These results are consistent with Dr. John Christys results which measures the troposphere temperatures (verified by weather balloon observations)

If the atmosphere is not warming, it can not possibly be warming the planet.
Only a fool intent on misleading others would suggest atmospheric temperature is not relevant to the Greenhouse Gas theory
BTW: A theory which has never been experimentally proven







Co2 is not the control knob for climate and climate is far more complex than the Alarmists propaganda portray
 
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Surface temperature data records the alarmist are hanging their hat on are
1. Too short to make a definitive positive cause and effect conclusion .
2. Incomplete, the planet is two thirds covered in water and most of the land area has next to zero historical data,
3, Filled with errors. The urban Island heat effect and a strong biases towards airport stations ( Gavin Schmidt is likely measuring urbanization trends)
4. has been fiddled with. Environment Canada wiped out a hundred years of data , in addition stations are moved and station data sets are eliminated from the data based on someone's judgement call
5. The alarmists picked the beginning of the industrial revolution as a starting reference point, probably the coldest period since the little ice age.
All climate change projections of global temperatures are for SURFACE TEMPERATURES, to try to judge them with atmospheric, lower troposphere temperatures is intentionally dishonest.
1. Satellite records start in 1979. Yet in 2002 satellite readings from NASA were started that took surface temperatures. Larue refuses to reference these as they show identical warming to surface readings.
2. Ocean temperatures have a long history, including a longer history using buoys than satellites. Its dishonest to ignore these.
3. Heat island effect is well known and compensated for. Its dishonest to claim otherwise.
4. Larue characterizes upgrades in methods, instrumentation and calculations as 'fiddling'. As if he would expect climatologists to never try to do what they do in better manners.
5. There was no little ice age before the industrial revolution, this claim is either ignorant or intentionally dishonest.

When you use satellites to measure surface temperatures they agree with the findings of surface readings.
larue only uses atmospheric readings to intentionally bait and switch data.

 

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Mary-Jean Harris, B.Sc, M.Sc. (Physics), Ottawa, Ontario. Ms. Harris graduated with her Masters degree in Theoretical Physics from the Perimeter Institute in Waterloo in the Perimeter Scholars International Program. She is a business owner, teaching assistant and tutor in mathematics and physics, performer, and author of historical fantasy fiction
Oh! She works with Tom Harris's International Climate Science Coalition crew!
Fun.
I'd love to see what her historical fiction is like.
 

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Oh! She works with Tom Harris's International Climate Science Coalition crew!
Fun.
I'd love to see what her historical fiction is like.
Nice detective work!
I wonder if Tom Harris is related to Mary-Jean Harris?
The ICSC is funded by the Heartland Institute, one of the oil industry's most prominent lobbying group and also run by Tim Ball, who is a total wacko.

Which makes the anti-mask, Fairytale Princess lady just seem like one of the party.
Larue will say its mean to attack 'scientists', but just ask him about Michael Mann and the hockey stick to see him explode.

I would wonder if her historical fiction is more believable than her science stance.
 

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Nice detective work!
Not even detective work, her youtube video is branded ICSC.

I wonder if Tom Harris is related to Mary-Jean Harris?
That didn't occur to me.

Do you think there is a family resemblance?
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I would wonder if her historical fiction is more believable than her science stance.
Special Assistant and Researcher: Mary-Jean Harris, B.Sc, M.Sc. (Physics), Ottawa, Ontario. Ms. Harris graduated with her Masters degree in Theoretical Physics from the Perimeter Institute in Waterloo in the Perimeter Scholars International Program. She is a business owner, teaching assistant and tutor in mathematics and physics, performer, and author of historical fantasy fiction (see, for example, here).

Looks like it could be a fun read: http://thesoulwanderers.blogspot.com/p/home.html

She comes off as an endearing geek on her page but I didn't really look too deeply.
 

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Not even detective work, her youtube video is branded ICSC.



That didn't occur to me.

Do you think there is a family resemblance?
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Special Assistant and Researcher: Mary-Jean Harris, B.Sc, M.Sc. (Physics), Ottawa, Ontario. Ms. Harris graduated with her Masters degree in Theoretical Physics from the Perimeter Institute in Waterloo in the Perimeter Scholars International Program. She is a business owner, teaching assistant and tutor in mathematics and physics, performer, and author of historical fantasy fiction (see, for example, here).

Looks like it could be a fun read: http://thesoulwanderers.blogspot.com/p/home.html

She comes off as an endearing geek on her page but I didn't really look too deeply.
Her anti-mask Fairytale Princess Birthday business makes her not at all endearing to me.
“What can you do to spread some pixie dust in your life?” reads another post under an image of the same woman, now dressed as Tinkerbell. “Kindly say NO when people ask you to cover your beautiful face with a mask.”

Anti-Mask Disney Princess Page Targeted At Kids Abruptly Shuts Down
It’s COVID-19 conspiracy theories with a Disney twist.
 

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rather than attacking the content of the message, the loonies attack her character
the same fools who failed high school physics and virtual signal about feminism

Like I said

They have a pathologically / ideological need to cancel opposing views

and

It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
Richard P. Feynman
https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/richard-p-feynman-quotes

and

Only a fool intent on misleading others would suggest atmospheric temperature is not relevant to the Greenhouse Gas theory
BTW: A theory which has never been experimentally proven

Co2 is not the control knob for climate and climate is far more complex than the Alarmists propaganda portray
 
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rather than attacking the content of the message, the loonies attack her character
She is being attacked because she is an anti-mask, anti-science type.
Her Fairytale Princess parties are likely closer to reality than your claims about the science.

If you want real science, you could look to NASA instead of birthday parties.
Gavin Schmidt, who's credibility is unassailable as the director of NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies just released a study, using the satellites that you prefer, that quantizes anthropomorphic influence on the climate.

Legit science comes from the people who just flew a fucking helicopter on Mars, not some grad student who specializes in princess birthday parties where she tells children about the evil of wearing a mask during a pandemic.


NASA measures direct evidence humans are causing climate change

Even better, they directly show evidence through the satellites you think are the only legit measurement, that the projections from the models for radiative forces are accurate.

What NASA has done in this study is to calculate, or quantify, the individual forcings measured from specialized satellite observations to determine how much each component warms or cools the atmosphere. To no one's surprise, what they have found is that the radiative forces, which computer models have indicated for decades were warming the Earth, match the changes they measure in observations.
 

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Climate Scientist Gavin Schmidt runs in fear from a debate - YouTube
Ah yes, a scientist activist "not interested" in debating science - pathetic







The mean atmospheric Co2 concentration is approx. 20-25% higher than 40 years ago and approx. 15% higher than 20 years ago
Producing a temp increase of 0.4 C and 0.0 C respectively ???


It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
Richard P. Feynman
https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/richard-p-feynman-quotes
 
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Frankfooter

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Climate Scientist Gavin Schmidt runs in fear from a debate - YouTube
Ah yes, a scientist activist "not interested" in debating science - pathetic
Schmidt shows up, articulately states his position and then the host asks Spencer to return.
There is no 'running in fear', that's total Fairytale Princess stories, larue.

If you're going to post 8 year old edited videos, can you take the time to watch them first?
The video shows nothing of what the title claims.

Its clear you don't check your sources, like the Fairytale Princess lady who is anti-mask.
You didn't check this video either.

Instead of posting 8 year old youtube videos you should try keeping up with the news, the studies and the findings.
Like this study that uses the same satellite data Spencer creates to prove the models are accurate.

NASA measures direct evidence humans are causing climate change


What NASA has done in this study is to calculate, or quantify, the individual forcings measured from specialized satellite observations to determine how much each component warms or cools the atmosphere. To no one's surprise, what they have found is that the radiative forces, which computer models have indicated for decades were warming the Earth, match the changes they measure in observations.
 

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NYU Professor Steven E. Koonin , Unsettled: What Climate Science Tells Us, What it Doesn’t, and Why It Matters.
A theoretical physicist and director of the Center for Urban Science and Progress at New York University. He is also a professor in the Department of Civil and Urban Engineering at NYU's Tandon School of Engineering.[2]
Koonin has written more than 200 academic papers and articles. They have been cited over 14,000 times according to Google Scholar.
In 2009, he was appointed the U.S. Department of Energy's second Senate-confirmed Under Secretary for Science serving from May 19, 2009, to November 18, 2011.
ie Obama Administration
As the Wall Street Journal reports in their recent review of the book, “Mr. Koonin’s science credentials are impeccable.” (Mills, 2021).


Projections of future climate and weather events rely on models demonstrably unfit for the purpose.” (Koonin, 2021, p. 24)
anyone who says that climate models are ‘just physics’ either doesn’t understand them or is being deliberately misleading” (Koonin, 2021, p. 81).
Some scientists from the Max Planck Institute described how they tuned their climate model by targeting an ECS (the climate or temperature sensitivity to a doubling of the CO2 concentration) of about 3°C by adjusting their cloud feedbacks. To understand how awful this is, one much understand that clouds are not modeled; they are adjustable parameters. ECS is not a model input, it is computed from model output. Koonin’s comment: “the researchers tuned their model to make its sensitivity to greenhouse gases what they thought it should be. Talk about cooking the books.” (Koonin, 2021, p. 93).

The world’s governments and the U.N. have spent billions of dollars on climate research and thousands of scientists around the world have spent their entire careers on this subject, so how are we doing? Koonin tells us:

“One stunning problem is that the spread of the [IPCC AR5] CMIP5 ensemble in the years after 1960 is larger than that of the models in CMIP3 – in other words, the later generation of models is actually more uncertain than the earlier one. So here is a real surprise: even as the models became more sophisticated – including finer grids, fancier subgrid parameterizations … the uncertainty increased” (Koonin, 2021, p. 87)




The mean atmospheric Co2 concentration is approx. 20-25% higher than 40 years ago and approx. 15% higher than 20 years ago
Producing a temp increase of 0.4 C and 0.0 C respectively ???


It doesn't matter how beautiful your theory is, it doesn't matter how smart you are. If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong.
Richard P. Feynman
https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/richard-p-feynman-quotes
 
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Frankfooter

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Your chart shows almost 1ºC of warming over 40 years.
Even though you are still trying to dishonestly compare apples to oranges, by only ever using atmospheric temperature measurements to judge surface projections, your chart still shows the warming you say isn't happening.

How is it that you can post a chart that proves you are lying and not even realize it?
How different are the numbers that you say show there is no warming from NASA's chart that shows actual surface temperatures?



 
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