The Beatles

[Insidious Von]

Well this is sad.

We're so consumed with Bill C-36 that we let the 50th Anniversary of The Beatles arrival in North America pass without taking note of the event. It's time to redress that overlook.

Howard Stern talked about George Martin and he got it completely wrong. He took exception to George taking too much credit for The Beatles sound. Howard was only partially eight. In the early days when John primordial sound drove the band, George was only there to get the songs on master tape. However as Paul began to broader his melodic range George almost became the 5th Beatle. The band members had no formal musical training, as their songs became more complex George's arrangements became crucial. Without him there would be no Beatles after 1966.

Here's a classic example and one of The Beatles greatest songs.

 

[Insidious Von]

Although I'm willing to give Howard a pass, he's speaking as a fan.

 

[Insidious Von]

So Eleanor Rigby now has a face, and what a lovely face it is. Although the film has nothing with the song, writer-director Ned Benson did ask permission. Paul (who wrote the music) was rather thrilled with the idea, I hope he attends the premiere.

 

[legmann]

Did that anniversary not pass in February of this year?

Nonetheless.... As to Martin, his input was crucial in the Beatles' early recordings as well, though not as much in a technical sense that was prominent post-Revolver.

'Little' suggestions, like opening with a chorus ('She loves you') and tightening arrangements ('Please please me') turned adequate pop songs into devastating hits.

 

[scouser1]

Yes let us praise the first boy band to be created, perpetuated by a lot of old geezers with large amounts of disposable income that keep seeing these old geezer bands live trying to recreate their youth. Thankfully with the Beatles it will never happen.

 

[nobody123]

Yes let us praise the first boy band to be created, perpetuated by a lot of old geezers with large amounts of disposable income that keep seeing these old geezer bands live trying to recreate their youth. Thankfully with the Beatles it will never happen.

Well aren't we just so cute being all edgy and cynical and all. Do you artfully ruffle your hair before you type those posts, or does your knee just hit the keyboard in patterns that vaguely resemble human thought whenever you see something someone else may like?

Meanwhile, back in reality, The Beatles were boyhood chums from working-class families in Liverpool who started a band together. The Monkees were the first real boy band (a group of photogenic actors that answered a casting call and became a manufactured band.) Careful you don't cut someone with that all that edge there now, son.

 

[Viggo Rasmussen]

In the early days when John primordial sound drove the band, George was only there to get the songs on master tape. However as Paul began to broader his melodic range George almost became the 5th Beatle.

I wouldn't say it was mainly John's sound at the beginning, there was an equal contribution from Paul.

51 years ago today, July 12th 1963, "Twist And Shout" was released - my favourite vocal by John.

 

[whitewaterguy]

Folks who still yearn for these cheesie tunes are the same saps who are still trying to reconnect on Facebook with high school friends, and posting black and white class photos, wondering the name of the nerd standing behind him to his right. Time to give up the cheese. Listen to some Vance Joy; Jezabels ; Boy and Bear; or other great bands of today who are way more talented. Get a life

 

[Viggo Rasmussen]

People who enjoy Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Beethoven, Hank Williams etc aren't told to get with the new stuff - good music is timeless.

 

[nobody123]

Folks who still yearn for these cheesie tunes are the same saps who are still trying to reconnect on Facebook with high school friends, and posting black and white class photos, wondering the name of the nerd standing behind him to his right. Time to give up the cheese. Listen to some Vance Joy; Jezabels ; Boy and Bear; or other great bands of today who are way more talented. Get a life

Great music is great music, whether it was created 20 minutes ago or 200 years ago. The only difference is that the older stuff has withstood the test of time. (PROTIP: The Beatles have). I'm curious as to what your opinion of your contemporary heroes will be in 20 years time. And maybe you'll still like them, who knows. The only thing I know for sure is that pillorying the classics while putting some bland, generic Apple-ad sounding flavour-of-the-month shit on a pedestal is a tad churlish and insecure.

 

[legmann]

Listen to some Vance Joy; Jezabels ; Boy and Bear; or other great bands of today who are way more talented.

Uh huh. One of the biggest loads of shit I've read on this board (and that says a lot). You do realize, don't you, that all of these fuck-wits of today wouldn't exist if not for the Beatles, et al?

Goof.

 

[nobody123]

I'm starting to think whitewater is just trolling hard here. Either that, or he really does love interchangeable hipster pop that delivers all the emotional impact of a season 4 montage on Scrubs. Mind you, it seems his heroes list the Beatles as their influences, so there may be hope for them yet.

Q. If you were forced to spend the rest of your days in solitary confinement, but were allowed to bring the entire works of five different artists along to tide you over, whose would you choose?

A. Shakespeare, Mozart, Beatles, Stephen king, Alfred Hitchcock.

http://rocksucker.co.uk/2013/12/showcase-vance-joy.html

Mixing elements of folk, traditional Americana and pop music is the key to success with Boy & Bear, who draw from influences as diverse as Arcade Fire, Radiohead, Crowded House, The Beatles and Neil Young.

http://www.beat.com.au/content/boy-and-bear-0

Fret not though whitewaterguy (in case you are actually serious and not trolling). You can drop your support for those clowns. Fuck them. I liked them before they were hip anyways. And I'm sure a dozen bland white musician analogues with peppy acoustic earworms are already queuing up in the hallway. They'll look just as good in skinny jeans, sound just as timeless on the next GoPro viral video, and have an irrational hatred for the Beatles just like you. There, there.

 

[Insidious Von]

Welcome back Toffeeman:

I'm just beginning to explore The Arcade Fire, and my library of The Queens of the Stone Age is growing - back to the topic at hand.

In early 1966, John was asked if Ringo was the greatest drummer in the world. His reply "Ringo isn't even the best drummer in The Beatles". It goes further than that, John wanted to beef up the rhythm section by replacing Ringo with Ian Paice.

 

[Insidious Von]

It does make you pause - what would Sgt Peppper have sounded like with Mr. High Hat on drums?

 

[Mozo]

I believe the quotation is "Ringo isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles".
That, of course, would be Paul...

 

[Marla]

People who enjoy Duke Ellington, Louis Armstrong, Beethoven, Hank Williams etc aren't told to get with the new stuff - good music is timeless.

The standards are classic and will never go out of style.

 

[Insidious Von]

I believe the quotation is "Ringo isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles".
That, of course, would be Paul...

I corrected my error - Paul on drums.

 

[Marla]

Uh huh. One of the biggest loads of shit I've read on this board (and that says a lot). You do realize, don't you, that all of these fuck-wits of today wouldn't exist if not for the Beatles, et al?

Goof.

We were so lucky to have had the Beatles and they will be popular throughout the decades and into the future. Their music revolutionized a new beginning of art and as a result of their presence, other artists were encouraged to take artistic liberties.

 

[bolt.upright]

Probably the best, and most magical concert I have ever attended was seeing Paul McCartney in Montreal in 2011. I bought tickets the day of the concert--just happened to be in Montreal and heard that Paul was playing the Bell Centre that night--and got AWESOME seats, just to the right of the stage. He played mostly Beatle songs for almost three hours, and everyone was exhausted from cheering and singing along by the end of it. I took this picture that night:

 

[whitewaterguy]

I'm starting to think whitewater is just trolling hard here. Either that, or he really does love interchangeable hipster pop that delivers all the emotional impact of a season 4 montage on Scrubs. Mind you, it seems his heroes list the Beatles as their influences, so there may be hope for them yet.





Fret not though whitewaterguy (in case you are actually serious and not trolling). You can drop your support for those clowns. Fuck them. I liked them before they were hip anyways. And I'm sure a dozen bland white musician analogues with peppy acoustic earworms are already queuing up in the hallway. They'll look just as good in skinny jeans, sound just as timeless on the next GoPro viral video, and have an irrational hatred for the Beatles just like you. There, there.

Never really hated them, they just triggered a vomit reaction. Back then as a teen, it was a genuine relief when the Doors, Zep, Stones and Dylan came along. And of course, where would music
be without the likes of blues guys like Van Morrison. Beatles were Milupa for the pre-sexual and imminently sexualized teen masses. They were simply culturally pre-orgasmic. "Squeeze my lemon til the juice runs down my leg........Shake for me baby, I wanna be you back door man".. Some groups had us figured out.....others pandered to teenie squeally chicks

Having said that, I rarely feel the need to listen to old shit, because the world has such an amazing abundance of readily available and culturally diverse music. My piont was more about dorks stuck in the past. I am well past my phase of needing to hang on, and that goes for classical music as well. Time to move on experience the joy in the new, the fresh and the young