Yes I think it will be, once Aleppo is taken Raqqa will be next, then it will be over.
The Agony of Aleppo
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The point is that some fans of Putin here have no problem criticizing the US yet defend aggressive Russian policy of doing the same thing or worse.This is where we get into a circular argument. It's ok for us to do it because they do it.
What utter crap. Gaza is as it is simply because Hamas terrorists have chosen to perpetuate their crusade. Israel allows in tonnes and tonnes of aid and people routinely enter and leave. The only thing they don't allow in is weapons and the materials Hamas uses to build their cross-border tunnels.The more humane way? They have stolen the lives of 2 generations of people living there. It not humane, its much worse then what Russia is doing. Its a giant concentration camp.
Of course you complain about Israel inspecting shipments into Gaza but defend Russia putting Aleppo under siege and bombing the shit out of the city.
Not as a NATO memberTurkey could shoot down an old Russian SU-24 in a sneak attack but it is would probably lose an air war with Russia pretty decisively.
Russia could eventually bring numerically superior numbers of its technologically inferior planes, so sure.Turkey could shoot down an old Russian SU-24 in a sneak attack but it is would probably lose an air war with Russia pretty decisively.
F-16 and SU-27 are pretty much equivalent. Same generation of aircraft.Slimebag Fuji should leave aviation alone and just stick to topics he knows well such as whore mongering. To suggest that a Turkish F-16 can go toe to toe with an SU-27 Flanker in a dogfight, and to suggest it is technologically superior than the SU-27 just goes to show his gargantuan lack of knowledge.
It would come down to numbers which would ultimately come down to how shitty Russia's aircraft carriers are getting and whether they could put enough planes in the region to take on Turkey. Turkey would obviously have the home court advantage (lots of airfields, ground based anti-aircraft systems, radar installations, AWACS). Russia would need to bring a LOT of planes to counter that -- it's unclear if they still have the ability to do so.
No, Israel built the wall and turned it into the world's largest open air prison.What utter crap. Gaza is as it is simply because Hamas terrorists have chosen to perpetuate their crusade.
Hamas is just rebelling against living in a place the UN has stated will be unliveable in about 3 years, due to the Israeli blockade.
Russia isn't bombing Gaza and putting it under seige, they are softening up the opposition for a final assault by the Syrian army so the scumbags can be rooted out.What utter crap. Gaza is as it is simply because Hamas terrorists have chosen to perpetuate their crusade. Israel allows in tonnes and tonnes of aid and people routinely enter and leave. The only thing they don't allow in is weapons and the materials Hamas uses to build their cross-border tunnels.
Of course you complain about Israel inspecting shipments into Gaza but defend Russia putting Aleppo under siege and bombing the shit out of the city.
All of which is due to illegal, racist terrorist attacks by Hamas. When Israel withdrew from Gaza the airport and port were open, the border was open. Until Hamas started smuggling missiles, conducting cross border raids to kill Jews, etc.No, Israel built the wall and turned it into the world's largest open air prison.
Hamas is just rebelling against living in a place the UN has stated will be unliveable in about 3 years, due to the Israeli blockade.
You can't face that truth.
As a NATO member we would all lose that one. But the question is, can NATO deploy planes quickly enough to defend Turkey? That is not clear. It is much harder then you think. If Russia destroyed Turkeys Air Force in retaliation, to a shoot down, would NATO then dare to attack Russia causing a nuclear war? Or would they just say...."fair enough lets stop here ? "Not as a NATO member
Some day will you answer my question about why there are laws on the books of Israel SPECIFICALLY ordering the seizure of Arab properties when arab residents fled the war?All of which is due to illegal, racist terrorist attacks by Hamas. When Israel withdrew from Gaza the airport and port were open, the border was open. Until Hamas started smuggling missiles, conducting cross border raids to kill Jews, etc.
You can't face that truth.
Russia only has one aircraft carrier and its pretty shitty. Carriers would not be decisive in such a war since Russia is right next to Turkey. The SU-27 is dynamically superior to F-16 but its the avionics and missiles that would decide the situation. If Russia can field enough of the advanced variants of SU-27 like SU 30 and SU-35 then Turkish F-16s will have a hard time. Only F-22s would do well against these. Even F-15s would be hard pressed. Latest version of Eurofighter will also be quite good as will Rafale.F-16 and SU-27 are pretty much equivalent. Same generation of aircraft.
It would come down to numbers which would ultimately come down to how shitty Russia's aircraft carriers are getting and whether they could put enough planes in the region to take on Turkey. Turkey would obviously have the home court advantage (lots of airfields, ground based anti-aircraft systems, radar installations, AWACS). Russia would need to bring a LOT of planes to counter that -- it's unclear if they still have the ability to do so.
Because leaving properties to rot for 65 years isn't productive. Israel has committed to reimbursing foreign Arab owners in every peace proposal.Some day will you answer my question about why there are laws on the books of Israel SPECIFICALLY ordering the seizure of Arab properties when arab residents fled the war?
I note that Arab nations have never committed to reimbursing property seized from Jews when an equal number of them fled in the opposite direction.
This is one of your most amusing revisions of history.No, Israel built the wall and turned it into the world's largest open air prison.
Hamas is just rebelling against living in a place the UN has stated will be unliveable in about 3 years, due to the Israeli blockade.
Hamas openly admits they are 'rebelling' against the presence of Jews in the region.
(and the blockade only exists to minimize Hamas' ability to pursue their stated aims)
:der: Of course not. If they were you'd be cheering them.Russia isn't bombing Gaza ...
Both ISIS and Hamas are designated terrorists entities in Canada. I don't see why trying to kill off one is good but killing the other is bad.
http://thefederalist.com/2016/06/23/hamas-is-isiss-deadly-new-best-friend/Both ISIS and Hamas are designated terrorists entities in Canada. I don't see why trying to kill off one is good but killing the other is bad.
It's a substantial FOB for the US Airforce and home to 25% of NATOs most advanced tactical nukes. So yeah, Russia's second world military wouldn't last long.As a NATO member we would all lose that one. But the question is, can NATO deploy planes quickly enough to defend Turkey? That is not clear. It is much harder then you think. If Russia destroyed Turkeys Air Force in retaliation, to a shoot down, would NATO then dare to attack Russia causing a nuclear war? Or would they just say...."fair enough lets stop here ? "
The legislation was passed shortly after they left. Sorry a lie is not an answer. Israel has not stated in even broad strokes what that compensation will be. Saying Arab countries do no compensate Jews is a stupid answer. Germany certainly compensated Jews, still do today. So you are saying we can only expect Israel to act like another flea bag Arab country? Its not considered "leaving property" when you seize it and do not allow the owners back into the country.Because leaving properties to rot for 65 years isn't productive. Israel has committed to reimbursing foreign Arab owners in every peace proposal.
I note that Arab nations have never committed to reimbursing property seized from Jews when an equal number of them fled in the opposite direction.
You don't think the Russians would be smart enough to disable the that base first with runway denial weapons?It's a substantial FOB for the US Airforce and home to 25% of NATOs most advanced tactical nukes. So yeah, Russia's second world military wouldn't last long.
There are no Jews in Gaza, how are they rebelling against Jews in Gaza?This is one of your most amusing revisions of history.
Hamas openly admits they are 'rebelling' against the presence of Jews in the region.
(and the blockade only exists to minimize Hamas' ability to pursue their stated aims)
Unless you're noting that Israel is keeping the residents from living in the rest of Palestine, is that what you mean?
The blockade was an idiotic attempt to make the people of Gaza rebel against Hamas.
Instead, it will lead Israel to more charges at the ICC.
