Toronto Escorts

The 395 pound albatross around Hudak's neck - Rob Ford

james t kirk

Well-known member
Aug 17, 2001
23,998
3,814
113
It’s a four-letter F-word that Progressive Conservative Leader Tim Hudak tries not to utter.

Ford.

As in Toronto Mayor Rob Ford and his big brother, Councillor Doug Ford (Ward 2, Etobicoke North).

With Tory strategists privately blaming Hudak’s struggles in Toronto on the Fords’ bullies-in-a-china-shop act at city hall, the PC leader strived to be diplomatic Monday during a campaign stop for the Oct. 6 election.

Speaking to reporters in Etobicoke, family seat of the Ford brothers, he repeatedly ducked questions about the impact of proposed municipal cuts and headline-grabbing Ford antics on his Toronto candidates.

“Let me say this to people in Toronto: the Dalton McGuinty Liberals have had almost every seat in Toronto these past eight years and what did you get in return?” Hudak said at an appliance-refurbishing company’s warehouse near Pearson International Airport.

“Worse gridlock, nothing done about crime like violent offenders who are in our midst and driving up your costs with an HST increase on your heat and your hydro, a premier who lectures you on what time you should do your chores late at night,” he said.

“The Liberals have taken Toronto seats and Toronto voters for granted too long. Things are going to change.”

Finally, after six questions about Ford, Hudak reluctantly mentioned the mayor’s name.

“I know that Mayor Ford and council are going through recommendations by the city manager, so the question is how can the province be of assistance,” he said of the city’s budget-cutting plans.

While Hudak did use one of Ford’s trademark campaign lines — “we’ll end the war on the car” — he is clearly mindful the Conservative mayor’s political coattails are not what they were when he swept to power last October.

Two public opinion polls in the past week found the Tories in third place in Toronto, where they have not won one of the city’s 23 ridings since 1999.

Hudak was at 25 per cent in the Toronto Star-Angus Reid survey released Saturday — behind McGuinty at 34 per cent and NDP Leader Andrea Horwath at 35 per cent. The Liberals hold 19 city seats and the NDP the remaining four.

Although the Liberals are privately delighted that Ford’s warnings of municipal service reductions are hurting the provincial Tories, they note that a PC government would cause the mayor more pain.

That’s because Hudak said last month he would scrap McGuinty’s 10-year accord with municipalities to upload services the previous Tory government of former premier Mike Harris had downloaded.

Under that 2008 agreement, the province is gradually reassuming the funding of ambulance services, court protection and seniors’ drug programs.


http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/...is-one-f-bomb-that-hudak-refuses-to-drop?bn=1
 

james t kirk

Well-known member
Aug 17, 2001
23,998
3,814
113
Betcha Hudak wishes Ford never had that barbeque a few months ago when Haper was braying away about completing the Hat Trick.
 

rld

New member
Oct 12, 2010
10,664
2
0
I guess you don't understand what the Tea Party is really all about.

The initial question is interesting though. I don't track provincial politics closely enough, but was there hope for Hudack in TO anyways? Is there a path to victory that might work for him if he gets no seats in Toronto proper or the GTA?
 

james t kirk

Well-known member
Aug 17, 2001
23,998
3,814
113
The initial question is interesting though. I don't track provincial politics closely enough, but was there hope for Hudack in TO anyways? Is there a path to victory that might work for him if he gets no seats in Toronto proper or the GTA?
Given that Rob Ford won hands down in Toronto, and that in the last federal election, several MPs from the 416 were elected, I'd say yeah, there was hope for Hudak in Toronto.

However, having watched the utter spectacle of the McCheese Brothers at work in the last year, most Torontonians are thinking twice about voting for any more conservatives.

Besides, we have enough "conservatives" in power in this country. Voting in the trifecta would be a disaster.
 

rld

New member
Oct 12, 2010
10,664
2
0
Given that Rob Ford won hands down in Toronto, and that in the last federal election, several MPs from the 416 were elected, I'd say yeah, there was hope for Hudak in Toronto.

However, having watched the utter spectacle of the McCheese Brothers at work in the last year, most Torontonians are thinking twice about voting for any more conservatives.

Besides, we have enough "conservatives" in power in this country. Voting in the trifecta would be a disaster.
I have not done that math. If effectively "shut out" in TO, do the Tories have a real shot to win the province? I echo your concern about the trifecta, but I kind of like Hudak.
 

dirk076

Member
Sep 24, 2004
973
0
16
There are three clear options in this election:

Vote for Hudak and you get a Tea Party government.
Vote for McGuinty and you get continuous flip flops, tax grabs and creeping corruption.
Vote for Horwath and you geta fresh start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omhPld-FcYM
Hahahaha.....Same fear mongering, pure and utter bullshit from the socialists. C'mon, get a new schtick. This same old one is really boring. Yeah, all Ontario needs is another New Dummy government.
 

wigglee

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2010
9,937
1,755
113
If a Torontonian votes for Hudak, he is pretty much killing Toronto's chances of getting any cash from the province for transit.
 

james t kirk

Well-known member
Aug 17, 2001
23,998
3,814
113
If a Torontonian votes for Hudak, he is pretty much killing Toronto's chances of getting any cash from the province for transit.
Very true. Neither Ford, nor Hudak are mass Transit guys to start with. Ford only thinks about driving and Hudak, well, you can bet that he will cancel just about every GO Transit / TTC project out there and defer to the status quo. "Live with what you have" will be Hudak's mantra.
 

fuji

Banned
Jan 31, 2005
80,012
7
0
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
is.gd
I don't think Hudak is Harris-lite or Harris-heavy.

Mike Harris actually believed in something and never would have mused about central price controls for beer and electricity. Hudak says whatever polls tell him voters want to hear.
 

moviefan

Court jester
Mar 28, 2004
2,531
0
0
I have not done that math. If effectively "shut out" in TO, do the Tories have a real shot to win the province? I echo your concern about the trifecta, but I kind of like Hudak.
I believe the Conservatives would have to win at least some seats in the suburbs to have a shot at a majority government. A minority government is a possibility without the 416 (I think).
 

omegaphallic

Well-known member
Mar 26, 2010
3,008
46
48
Without TO and without the north the Tories will have to slaughter it in the rest of the provience and they just don't have the digits for it. Its not just Ford, Hudak is too much of a reminder of Harris without Harris assets with slice of Dalton to boot. Still ironically this doesn't look Dalton will benifit as Horwath may end up taking TO. TO appears to be fed up.with Dalton and Ford, but mouring Jack and Horwath appears to be the beniferary.
 

K Douglas

Half Man Half Amazing
Jan 5, 2005
26,536
6,946
113
Room 112
There are three clear options in this election:

Vote for Hudak and you get a Tea Party government.
Vote for McGuinty and you get continuous flip flops, tax grabs and creeping corruption.
Vote for Horwath and you geta fresh start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omhPld-FcYM
We all remember the last time the NDP got into power. Do you really think this Horwath lady has any leadership skills whatsoever? And this fear mongering routine is so played out.
 

wigglee

Well-known member
Oct 13, 2010
9,937
1,755
113
Could we see a coalition form after the election? It looks like a minority from here.....if hudak had the most seats, could libs and ndp combine to seize power?
 

moviefan

Court jester
Mar 28, 2004
2,531
0
0
Could we see a coalition form after the election? It looks like a minority from here.....if hudak had the most seats, could libs and ndp combine to seize power?
They could, although I doubt you would see a formal accord like the one that David Peterson and Bob Rae agreed to in 1985.

For one thing, the Liberals have been in power for eight years already, so propping up a Liberal government for too long might risk creating the appearance of a Liberal dynasty, primarily at the expense of the NDP.

Also, I suspect there may still be some bitter feelings from the time (I think it was after the 2003 election) when the NDP had to beg the Liberals for official party status at Queen's Park (after the NDP won less than the minimum number of seats required). I don't know for a fact the NDP is still bitter about this, but a number of the NDP incumbents were there at the time.

My guess is conditional support for the Liberals provided some NDP priorities are fulfilled, similar to the arrangements Jack Layton had with Stephen Harper in the early years of the Harper government.
 
Toronto Escorts