Thank you sir, may I have another. Rejected by 29 women in 3 days.

[newbieatthis]

You're probably coming off as desperate, you send out 29 emails in 3 days? wow. Here's a little secret that women have told men. Most women on these sites don't really have any intention of dating anyone from them, sometimes they are having low self esteem moments, and want the praise from men, it makes them feel better about themselves. Other women get so many responses they don't have the time to respond to all of them. Some have very high standards, so if you aren't Brad Pitt or don't make a million dollars, they aren't interested.

I don't even bother sending out emails anymore, I think I still have one active one, and sometimes women will email me. Probably should cancel that remaining one though. At least you don't live in Washington, DC though, here, it's quite the shallow experience.... You basically have to state what your income is.

Upon the suggestion of one of the members here, I decided to try lavalife as he said his friends have had good success with it.

Based on my experience, the only way you can get a response on that site is if you are over 5'10" tall and caucasian.

I have used up $50 worth of credits in 3 days and have nothing to show for it and the cold shoulder from 29 women.

It's not like I'm a loser or even ugly. I have a Master's degree, have recently started a job as a Team Manager with the goverment monitoring a 9 million dollar budget, fix and race cars, fly airplanes and gliders, ride horses and keep well read and fit.

It just goes to show you that women are just as shallow as men.

 

[Spode]

At least you don't live in Washington, DC though, here, it's quite the shallow experience.... You basically have to state what your income is.

Oh, it's not much different here.

 

[La Contessa]

Oh, it's not much different here.

Not so sure about that. Check this out.......


http://www.dcist.com/archives/2005/02/08/ask_dcist_do_women_out_number_men.php

 

[newbieatthis]

There must be more rich people here though. Girls here have the mentality "why should I date you when I could easily date a millionaire?". Even if they get no money out of the guy, it boosts their self esteem that they got a millionaire. Even if the guy isn't rich, if you work on Capital hill, girls will drop to their knees. It's just the power here. This area attracts power/money seeking people from all over the world. I know a couple canadian girls in the area, and they'll only date jewish lawyers (fortunately I am one), but it's really sickening what is attracted to this area. One of those girls is soooo damn gorgeous though, and she liked me at one point, but she's really bizarre about dating and insists everyone sees a group movie, and won't give her number, so I was dependent upon a mutual friend to arrange this, and he never did, and now she's been with a jewish lawyer for the past year pretty much. Maybe I"m not missing out, given she's probably a golddigger, but wow, do they build them beautiful in canada.

Oh, it's not much different here.

 

[newbieatthis]

That site isn't too accurate, given huge portions of the population is in SE DC, where you would go if you want to get shot. That eliminates a large amount of women. But the rest is pretty true, a small number of guys (rich and powerful) date most of the women. Sure, anyone can get a date here. I have the ability to, but it's always about money or something like that. not that I'm cheap, I'm not, I'm very generous, but these types of girls are not very loyal, if they find someone better, they're gone. Now I have the misfortunate of my roomate's ex girlfriend liking me. I don't know how I'd deal with that. That would be a little weird. But if you aren't rich, and you don't work a powerful job, you will be lonely here.

Not so sure about that. Check this out.......


http://www.dcist.com/archives/2005/02/08/ask_dcist_do_women_out_number_men.php

 

[newbieatthis]

You can't hold that against them, but sometimes they go overboard. Take my ex girlfriend for example. I didn't realize how many problems she had until it was over, but I was freshly out of law school when we started dating. Had top heavy student loans, but she was unused to being treated well. We'd go out to eat a lot, I actually liked her, not just the having sex with her. But one day, she went out, met some venture capiltalist who just boasted about all of his money, and she threw it all away basically to have a one night stand with him. They went out for a couple weeks, then she tried coming back to me. Of course I couldn't take her back, because she would have zero respect for me, and would do it again. Then she went on to say that I'm not passionate enough about my work, that I have to love what I do. It was her shorthand for saying I didn't make enough money, and I didn't make much then. She's also the type that wants all of your free time, but you can't have cake and eat it too. If you make money, you work a lot. Then she went on about how I'm not ambitious enough. Christ, I have a bachelors degree, a law degree, was working on an LL.M, I'm published, she hasn't even graduated college and lies about it on her resume. Oh well... That's the typical immigrant to DC for you. These days I'll lie to a girl when she asks what I do, because it's clearly to see income. I'm a lawyer, and I'll say I'm a legal assistant or something like that. That turns most of them away. Plus I don't have to dress up for my work, ie no suits, so it is quite believable. Some woman know a lot about the industry here, and I'm not an associate at a firm, I'm a staff attorney, which isn't the greatest, but I have no stress, and still make nice money so I can pay off my damn loans, and they know that means I'm not on partnership track, and thus less income potential. Too many damn lawyers here anways, I'd love to get out and move to a city with less materialistic people.

If what you are saying is that women just have to open their legs and the men come running, than I guess your right.

Women in our society treat their sex as if they're giving out gold dubloons. And to be fair sex is a woman's most important bargainning chip. I hate to sound like a mysogynist but women want a resourceful guy to be with. You do have exceptions to every rule, but they are just that exceptions. The rule is still the rule.

Unfortunately this game between men and women is getting uglier and uglier as time goes by

 

[hooktonsc]

Don't even talk to me until you hit a grand.

...been there. Never used LL, but back in the day, I was hooked on Quest phone line. I spend less on SCs then I did on that line. Let me just say this: the voice and the description don't always match the reality. On the + side, I did learn a lot about women and how to talk to them thru this, and once in a while I would get some action (but the investment returns were downright abysmal).

 

[solitaria]

I've had some luck on lavalife but if you are looking to score it is difficult. I knew a MPA that I had some fun conversing with that I met here on Terb and we switched lavalife profiles to have some fun and to see what life was like on the other side of the fence. I think she had like 30 or 40 IM's one time in about 30 minutes on a Monday morning when I was on reading some of the funny responses that she got. I think most guys gun for girls way out of their league and then bitch and think all girls are shallow. Obviously if 100's of guys want you then it stands to reason the hot girls will want the hot guys all things being equal and especially when the picture is all they have to go on. And of course, it begs the question of why you only try for hot looking girls (I'm guessing since I haven't read the whole thread) and really Lavalife is not real life. I think many girls think of Lavalife as a gay friend who they can talk to and have fun teasing unmercifully without the prerequisite sex. Anyways I think the MPA only went out with 2 or 3 lavalife guys and they were all genetic winners and none of them scored. You are much better trying elsewhere.

 

[hooktonsc]

I'm a lawyer, and I'll say I'm a legal assistant or something like that. That turns most of them away.

Saying you're a lawyer must be some kind of aphrodisiac. I don't think it's just the $, but some perception of prestige. Try saying you are an engineer or accountant, 2 professions where it is quite possible to make more $ than a lawyer (well, a staff lawyer in the government or in-house corporate, anyways), but not perceived as being prestigious. And it doesn't matter what city you're in. Women see your profession as part of the package. Don't worry, a lot them hate lawyers as well. If I had to pick which profession I'd be for purposes of picking up women, I'd probably say Dr. first (which I've pretended to be in my younger, more amoral days...) and lawyer would be in the top 5.

 

[Dizzyboy]

Damn, you mean I shouldn't tell them I'm a Walmart greeter?

 

[calloway]

It's not like I'm a loser or even ugly. I have a Master's degree, have recently started a job as a Team Manager with the goverment monitoring a 9 million dollar budget, fix and race cars, fly airplanes and gliders, ride horses and keep well read and fit.

It just goes to show you that women are just as shallow as men.

Too funny... you're suggesting these women are shallow? Maybe you should re-read what you wrote and go look in a mirror. It's pretty obvious that they're not "mesmerized" by your looks... your money or your job. Do you think it might be the person inside that's more important?

 

[booboobear]

There must be more rich people here though. Girls here have the mentality "why should I date you when I could easily date a millionaire?". Even if they get no money out of the guy, it boosts their self esteem that they got a millionaire. Even if the guy isn't rich, if you work on Capital hill, girls will drop to their knees. she's probably a golddigger, but wow, do they build them beautiful in canada.

I think it's true that the majority of women go for the men with money or looks ( the 6 pack ) . This is also probably why over half of marriages end in divorce. Women sometimes get what they deserve, they pick a guy for looks and don't consider his personality but seem surprised later to find out he cheats. I laugh when I read some of the ads women post on the web looking for a date . Even those 45-50 sometimes have such a long list of
" requirements " that it's unlikely they will ever find a partner . If you are going to post an ad at that age at least be realistic and flexible.

 

[FOOTSNIFFER]

Right on Stabbin...you speak the truth

I'd also like to add, that the attitude of women in this city is atrocious... they seem to go out of their way to not smile or even say hi if you're walking by... you can read it on their stupid faces that they are allergic to cock... cock that's not wrapped in 100 dollar bills and 8 balls of coke.

 

[i_am_good]

you know what they say...

...the 30th time is a charm.

 

[The Shake]

Perhaps you might have more luck if you stopped trying to sniff their feet...

 

[Eli]

I think I might've mentioned this before but you should know that LavaLife does have fake ads on their site (someone else mentioned this and I can confirm from an ex employee), as well there are a lot of woman who go on the sight purely out of boredom at work.

Nerve is slightly better, and Plentyoffish.com is free.

 

[xix]

What Women Want From Men

When they are 16:
The ideal man:

* Is cute
* Has a car.
* Likes me.

When they are 21:
The ideal man:

* Is Handsome.
* Charming and polite.
* Financially successful.
* Caring and sympathetic.
* Witty.
* Athletic.
* Stylish dresser.
* Appreciates finer things in life.
* Full of thoughtful surprises.
* An imaginative, romantic lover.

When they are 32:
The ideal man:

* Is decent looking, preferably with hair.
* Opens car doors, holds chairs.
* Has enough money for a nice dinner.
* Laughs at my jokes.
* Carries bags of groceries with ease.
* Owns at least one suit.
* Appreciates a good home-cooked meal.
* Remembers birthdays and anniversaries.
* Wants romance at least once a week.
* Bathes.

When they are 40:
The ideal man:

* Not too ugly, balding is OK.
* Steady job.
* Takes me out to dinner occasionally.
* Nods head when I'm talking.
* Usually remembers punch lines of jokes.
* Is in good enough shape to rearrange the furniture.
* Wears a shirt that covers his stomach.
* Knows not to buy champagne with screw-top lids.
* Remembers to put the toilet seat down.
* Shaves most weekends.

When they are 55:
The ideal man:

* Keeps nose and ear hair trimmed.
* Doesn't belch or scratch in public.
* Has at least a little money saved.
* Doesn't nod off to sleep when I'm venting.
* Doesn't re-tell the same joke too many times.
* Is in good enough shape to get off couch on weekends.
* Usually wears matching socks and fairly clean underwear.
* Appreciates a good TV dinner.
* Usually remembers names.
* Shaves occasionally.

When they are 65:
The ideal man:

* Doesn't t scare small children.
* Remembers where bathroom is.
* Doesn't require much money for upkeep.
* Does not snore too loudly.
* Remembers why he's laughing.
* Is in good enough shape to stand up by himself.
* Usually wears some clothes.
* Remembers where he left his teeth.
* Remembers who I am.

When they are 75:
The ideal man:

* Is breathing.
* Doesn't miss the toilet.

http://www.cgiven.com/musings/what_woman_want.html

 

[poorboy]

Well lots have things have happened since I wrote this first thread back in January. Unfortunately, I am still single.

Work was really stressful. I had to manage a gay, bipolar suicidal employee with incest issues who self diagnosed himself with multiple personality disorder. He went off the deep end about two months after coming back and I had to call in paid duty officers for four days because the employees thought he was going to go postal.

I was still able to manage the $9 million budget within half a percent despite these problems.

I completed the Toronto Fire Services Career Preparation course with flying colours (not that it was hard). There was a nice girl in the course I used to sit beside or near. She was the same age as me and was a veterinary assistant. We'd make small talk about nothing in particular. About a month into the course I asked her if she was free for coffee after class. She said she had a bf. I'm pretty sure she was lying though because for her vacation she went to florida with a female freind to visit another female friend, and left her dog with another female friend to take care of when she was away. As well, she lives with her father.

The spring gliding season is over, but I've been flying single engine aircraft on a fairly regular basis and have taken my Grand National out for the summer and am preparing to go to the track later in the summer.

Trying to meet someone just doesn't seem to be in the cards for me.

 

[mass123]

Damn poorboy. Good luck buddy, hope you find what you are looking for.

 

[incognito]

At least they talk to you. I can't even get a look much less a conversation. Persevere (sp?) bro.