Teslas are Getting Set On Fire Around America

Knuckle Ball

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What it is escalating to is not to worry over taking the high road, be be sure you have the high ground.

Even if one holds the moral high ground, no one will believe it if you are simultaneously committing acts of vandalism and setting stuff on fire.

I don’t morally object to people’s vandalizing Tesla dealerships, etc. I do worry, though, about falling into a trap that allows Trump to invoke emergency measures that give him even more power to crush opposition.

In my view, this is Trump’s ultimate plan- ie. to create as much chaos, rioting, and division as possible to give him an excuse to suspend the constitution and effectively become Leader for Life.

Violence may be morally justified but it is probably unwise.
 

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Even if one holds the moral high ground, no one will believe it if you are simultaneously committing acts of vandalism and setting stuff on fire.

I don’t morally object to people’s vandalizing Tesla dealerships, etc. I do worry, though, about falling into a trap that allows Trump to invoke emergency measures that give him even more power to crush opposition.

In my view, this is Trump’s ultimate plan- ie. to create as much chaos, rioting, and division as possible to give him an excuse to suspend the constitution and effectively become Leader for Life.

Violence may be morally justified but it is probably unwise.
He will escalate anyway imo. They are ramping up the pressure.
 

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He will escalate anyway imo. They are ramping up the pressure.
I have no doubt Trump will try to escalate the situation. The question is how best to respond to the escalations and whether violence is an effective response.

I don’t have a good answer to the question. You may lose support for your cause if it is linked to violence…but you may find that no one listens unless you resort to violence.

Kinda like BLM- some people say they don’t support BLM because they claim it is a violent movement; however, none of those people would have supported BLM even if it was made up of peaceful protesters anyway so it’s kind of a wash?
 

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I have no doubt Trump will try to escalate the situation. The question is how best to respond to the escalations and whether violence is an effective response.

I don’t have a good answer to the question. You may lose support for your cause if it is linked to violence…but you may find that no one listens unless you resort to violence.

Kinda like BLM- some people say they don’t support BLM because they claim it is a violent movement; however, none of those people would have supported BLM even if it was made up of peaceful protesters anyway so it’s kind of a wash?
Elon is a private citizen remember? He in fact refuses to claim any official position. Therefore it's not terrorism or any other bullshit, it's simply vandalism. The courts will agree I think.

They can't charge terrorism unless Elon admits he is a political figure officially working for the government. And then he comes under all kinds of rules.
 

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Another fake news story.


“Elon Musk will be briefed by the Pentagon about the USA’s top secret plans against China should there be a War,”according to the Failing New York Times, one of the worst and most purposely inaccurate newspapers anywhere in the World. Their FAKE concept for this story is that because Elon does some business in China, that he is very conflicted and would immediately go to top Chinese officials and “spill the beans.” RATINGS CHALLENGED FAKE NEWS CNN immediately picked up on this absolutely ridiculous and false story, which is probably libelous, and went heavy with it. Fortunately, nobody was watching! Maggot Hagerman, the really dumb “scammer” who constantly writes about me for the Times, using anonymous, made up (nonexistent!) sources, and who I haven’t spoken to in ages, is a big part of the Scam. She lead the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, only to realize that she was duped and got it wrong. She owes me a totally discredited Pulitzer Prize for her bad reporting. The Fake News is the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE…And Elon is NOT BEING BRIEFED ON ANYTHING CHINA BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR!!!"

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Ahh , so it's fake news because the liar, felon, conman tells you it's fake?? LMFAO
 

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Another fake news story.


“Elon Musk will be briefed by the Pentagon about the USA’s top secret plans against China should there be a War,”according to the Failing New York Times, one of the worst and most purposely inaccurate newspapers anywhere in the World. Their FAKE concept for this story is that because Elon does some business in China, that he is very conflicted and would immediately go to top Chinese officials and “spill the beans.” RATINGS CHALLENGED FAKE NEWS CNN immediately picked up on this absolutely ridiculous and false story, which is probably libelous, and went heavy with it. Fortunately, nobody was watching! Maggot Hagerman, the really dumb “scammer” who constantly writes about me for the Times, using anonymous, made up (nonexistent!) sources, and who I haven’t spoken to in ages, is a big part of the Scam. She lead the Russia, Russia, Russia Hoax, only to realize that she was duped and got it wrong. She owes me a totally discredited Pulitzer Prize for her bad reporting. The Fake News is the ENEMY OF THE PEOPLE…And Elon is NOT BEING BRIEFED ON ANYTHING CHINA BY THE DEPARTMENT OF WAR!!!"

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The fact that Joe Biden had security clearance while being clearly cognitively impaired didn't seem to bother CNN for four years..Yet they're worried about Musk, lol.

Squeezer puts up these videos and it's like he doesn't understand what he has watched..He just jumps to a hyperbolic conclusion.

Where is Joe Biden these days anyways?..Is he still alive?
 

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The fact that Joe Biden had security clearance while being clearly cognitively impaired didn't seem to bother CNN for four years..Yet they're worried about Musk, lol.

Squeezer puts up these videos and it's like he doesn't understand what he has watched..He just jumps to a hyperbolic conclusion.

Where is Joe Biden these days anyways?..Is he still alive?
Who cares about Joe now? Joe was not dangerous. He and his team made the US the best economic country in the world. Which Trump is destroying fast.

Only an imbecile sees otherwise.
 

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You answered my question with a question..So here goes for a 3rd time.

Are the acts of vandalism/violence against Tesla justified?

It's a simple yes or no.
Fuck, go back and read my reply. Yes they are. Completely justified and should continue.

He is trying to destroy the social safety net for personal gain. Harming people through mass firings, program cuts and more.

At this point if another Luigi shows up I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Nor would be anything but supportive. He is an unelected, unappointed oligarch, and wanna be Bond Villain. The best thing they can do is completely destroy his powerbase of money. Neuter him, distract him, and in the end expose him for what he is.

Now, were the Tea Party Biston Harbour dudes terrorists? Or patriots because of UNFAIR POLICY BY UNELECTED ARISTOCRATS?
 
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He and his team made the US the best economic country in the world.

Only an imbecile sees otherwise.
77 million people saw otherwise...Could it be the 1.3 trillion dollar debt increase in the last year of Biden's presidency?

Their federal debt is now 34 trillion dollars!
 

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Fuck, go back and read my reply. Yes they are. Completely justified and should continue.

He is trying to destroy the social safety net for personal gain. Harming people through mass firings, program cuts and more.

At this point if another Luigi shows up I wouldn't be the least bit surprised. Nor would be anything but supportive. He is an unelected, unappointed oligarch, and wanna be Bond Villain. The best thing they can do is completely destroy his powerbase of money. Neuter him, distract him, and in the end expose him for what he is.

Now, were the Tea Party Biston Harbour dudes terrorists? Or patriots because of UNFAIR POLICY BY UNELECTED ARISTOCRATS?
You're comparing the Tea Party to blowing peoples person vehicles...Yeah I don't see the connection.

Just boycott the product.

So are you personally going to go out and add to this violence and vandalism?...You know since you're such an advocate of the cause and all.
 
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You're comparing the Tea Party to blowing peoples person vehicles...Yeah I don't see the connection.

Just boycott the product.

So are you personally going to go out and add to this violence and vandalism?...You know since you're such an advocate of the cause and all.
The Boston Tea Party broke into private property and destroyed property specifically as a protest to unelected officials affecting them financially. I was and is considered a patriotic act in American lore to stand up to powerful oligarchs who try to financially harm the common man.

It's a very direct connection.

Perhaps Elon, as a private citizen, should stop trying to be President and stick to being a CEO in the private sector.
 

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77 million people saw otherwise...Could it be the 1.3 trillion dollar debt increase in the last year of Biden's presidency?

Their federal debt is now 34 trillion dollars!
7 Trillions were added 2016-2020, 1 trillion sent to billionaire friend of Trump.

By 2028 he will do worst.

77 millions are uncultured idiots.
 

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The Boston Tea Party broke into private property and destroyed property specifically as a protest to unelected officials affecting them financially. I was and is considered a patriotic act in American lore to stand up to powerful oligarchs who try to financially harm the common man.

It's a very direct connection.

Perhaps Elon, as a private citizen, should stop trying to be President and stick to being a CEO in the private sector.
Do you think that private owners of Tesla vehicles should have their cars vandalized as part of the protest?
 
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Do you think that private owners of Tesla vehicles should have their cars vandalized as part of the protest?
if that helped stopping fascism in America, it would not be a big price to pay
 
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And today Musk blamed Trans people as the ones setting Tesla's on fire…

Only an idiot would believe that.
 
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