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Jenesis

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You think people become obese from eating rice?

Amazing how the Chinese in China are all so lean on their steady diet of the stuff.
The kind of rice we have here in a box is not the same. You know that but play the hate game. That is fine.
 

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I just bought a cauliflower for about $2.00 today. Couple of potatoes $1.79 or something. expensive I admit, but you can actually buy large bags of potatoes for less than a couple of single ones at some places. Cabbage around $3.00. I am single so I don't have other mouths to feed, but I don't think a week's supply of basic veggies and some inexpensive cuts of meat are out of the reach of most people. Maybe I am wrong. My diet is sort of meat and 2 veg. I make bean,lentil,oat and barley stews in a big pot and freeze portions in yogurt containers. I add a bunch of kale $3.00 , a couple of onions and a couple of those " golden " beets, or whatever they are called. That meal if it were to be eaten by a family would last a couple of meals for 4 people at a cost of less than $12.00. around $1.50 each person 2 meals, When I thaw a portion out, I stir fry a single bok choi in a wok, with a teaspoon of olive oil and water. Add some wholewheat bread and butter to go with it.
However I will cede the floor to those who know better.
So you can make a couple of meals that are healthy and somewhat affordable. What about the rest of the meals. Breakfast and lunch. Snacks for kids. Who need them throughout the day for the amount of energy they expel. It is not something that can sustain an entire month on unless you eat the exact same food every day.

Have you had kids? Do you know how they eat? How they love something one day and absolutely hate it the next.

it is fact that health things cost more. There have been plenty of studies on this. Google is your friend, it will give you all the info you need to understand. While at it, look up the amount you get from social assistance and ask yourself if you can live on that.
 

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Wrong. Go to an Asian grocery store they have 20 lb rice bags. Cheaper and healthier than the boxed rice.
I’m not wrong. You just said you have to go to an Asian grocery store. There is a key word there.

What happens when there isn’t one? Because not everyone lives in big cities with stores like this available. Just sayin’
 

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I’m not wrong. You just said you have to go to an Asian grocery store. There is a key word there.

What happens when there isn’t one? Because not everyone lives in big cities with stores like this available. Just sayin’
Well, do your weekly charity trips and drop rice bags to the needy in rural areas.
The next alternative is to drop off boxed rice. Throw in a rice cooker and bottled water as a bonus
 
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You think people become obese from eating rice?

Amazing how the Chinese in China are all so lean on their steady diet of the stuff.
Some folks live in their own sheltered protective shell and have no clue about the staple grains of other countries.
Perhaps its the ignorance of not travelled and lived in Canada all their lives.
 
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John Wick

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Of course everybody has their preferences, but instead of just saying that lots of guys want their perception of an ideal woman (perfectly reasonable), You had to resort to body shaming (equating BBW with "sloppy"). Newsflash: Stereotypes suck, regardless of where they're directed. It's easy to use statistics to denigrate someone, but that leaves out the systemic factors that drive the statistics.
Wokeness in action. Well done. So predictable. 👏
 

John Wick

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Not to mention that fucking a woman who is that skinny is like falling on a bicycle
Wow. You crap on me for 'fat shaming', then immediately turn and do essentially the same thing for those that are skinny. How is what I said any different in essence to what you said? Nevermind, I don't care what you have to say one way or the other anyway, so don't bother.
 

John Wick

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Wrong. Go to an Asian grocery store they have 20 lb rice bags. Cheaper and healthier than the boxed rice.
Actually, it's not just available in Asian stores. A wide variety of 20lb bags of indian and asian rices are commonplace in virtually every grocery store chain in North America, and from my understanding there aren't many indians or asians buying Uncle Ben's instant rice in a box. That stuff is mostly for families who don't know any better in terms of value or taste, and who are only occasional consumers of rice.
 

John Wick

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I second your opinion. Its pointless to reply to a thread without contradiction from a couple well renowned members who are authorities on every single subject.
100% Bang on. (y)
 

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You missed part of the point. Those in low income households can’t afford the fruits and veg. A bag of rice for $5 feeds a lot more then $5 of fruit.

So while I agree with what you wrote, you need to acknowledge the other side as well. Something needs to be done about the price of crap food vrs healthy food. That is a major component.
Do you have any suggestions on what needs to be done about the price of crap food versus healthy food ?
 

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Blame all you want. I wasn't fat in the 60's nor now. So Wham! I didn't gain weight. I am not a dietician. Just an average Joe. Our food production didn't really change.
You're kidding right?

"Decades ago discussion of an impending global pandemic of obesity was thought of as heresy. Diets in the 1970’s began to shift toward increased reliance upon processed foods, increased away from home intake and greater use of edible oils and sugar-sweetened beverages. Reduced physical activity and increased sedentary time was seen also. These changes began in the early 1990-‘s in the low and middle income world but did not become clearly recognized until diabetes, hypertension and obesity began to dominate the globe." - National Library of Medicine
"The big change, health experts say, was how the food industry added sugars to common processed foods as well as the rapid growth of sugar and other sweeteners available in liquid form, from sodas to sports drinks to vitamin-enhanced water. New research suggests the problem is rooted back to 40 years ago, when high fructose corn syrup was introduced into the food market." - A Sugar Infusion in 1970s Food May Have Led to Obesity Crisis Today
" More specifically, in 1975, there were 5 million girls who had obesity, and in 2016, this number rose to 50 million. The report counted 6 million boys with obesity in 1975, but this number spiked to 74 million in 2016."
" It is worth noting that adult obesity rates also increased, from 100 million adults in 1975, to 671 million in 2016."
" Prof. Ezzati comments on the significance of the findings, saying, “These worrying trends reflect the impact of food marketing and policies across the globe, with healthy nutritious foods too expensive for poor families and communities.” - Childhood obesity rates rise 10-fold since the '70s

There is an acceptance about normalizing obesity, claiming that the consumers are the hapless victims and have no choice. I disagree.
There's nothing normal about being overweight or obese.
Yes there are people out there who are hapless victims. Some families in the united states feed their kids mcdonalds every day because it's cheaper to buy a combo than a head of lettuce.. so I'm not sure how you haven't heard this.
As for my reasons of being overweight, I think I have already discussed in this thread, I didn't put on weight until I was 30. Prior to that I had an amazing body in perfect condition.
I gained weight for many reasons, a rise in cortisol from severe ptsd, lack of exercise and eating bad food .. processed shit .. out of choice not out of financial inability at that time.
It's something that I am changing and that I have to control. Do I believe that there are people who are not able to take control, sure.. some professionals consider obesity to be a disease now and food to be as much of an addiction as heroine. I imagine that everyone has their own thoughts on it but I have decided that will be the day I would allow a fucking donut to dictate my future.. and I am making that change in what I eat and moving more, but that's just me. I can't speak for others.

These days, parents have to work so damn hard just to get by.. the cost of things increase but salaries don't. So in the typical family, both parents have to be working and not all of them are fortunate enough to have a 9-5 job. They don't have time to sit down and eat a normal meal so much of the time the kids are eating take out or processed food too. What do the cafeterias at schools serve - nutritious meals? I think not. Even so.. the meals are generally $6 per day for a child. That's $30 a week, thats $120 per month. A person on social assistance can't afford that. Even if the working parents can afford it, they are just beginning to change the foods offered in schools over the past decade. If a child has a decision to eat a piece of pizza or a salad.. I wonder which one he/she/they will choose lol.

I love a good debate and we could go on forever and speak on this topic.
I have done much research into obesity, diet, nutrition, etc. I follow Jason Fung who wrote The Obesity Code and I have read The China Study (which is just as hard to read as the Catechism of the Catholic Church lol). I am always learning :)

BTW... thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent by companies to develop certain tastes of processed foods to create consumers to become addicted.

Here's the clip I mentioned earlier in the thread that I saw...

 
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I love a good debate and we could go on forever and speak on this topic.
I have done much research into obesity, diet, nutrition, etc. I follow Jason Fung who wrote The Obesity Code and I have read The China Study (which is just as hard to read as the Catechism of the Catholic Church lol). I am always learning :)

BTW... thousands, hundreds of thousands of dollars are spent by companies to develop certain tastes of processed foods to create consumers to become addicted.
I've read Dr. Fung's book as well. He's a fan of intermittent fasting. Interesting stuff.

The book that really capped everything off for me was The Big Fat Surprise by Nina Teicholz. Also Gary Taubes book Why We Get Fat.

Big food conglomerates figured out a long time ago how to combine sugar, fat and salt in a way that would illicit a dopamine response in our brains. Thus making them addictive. Letpin resistance is involved as well.....In really insidious what has been done to the human race in the name of corporate greed. The malfeasance is abundant.
 

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Cool discussion on diet and healthy eating. Fact remains, TERB guys, for the most part, don't like BBWs. It's not an insult, just a fact.
 

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I used to be strictly only about the slim trim girl but over the past ten year or so I've really taken a shining to thick, healthy women. Something to grab on to!!! I used to be strictly about Asians only... I started finding myself extra excited when the door opened and the last was a healthy thick Asian (not too often). Then I started becoming attracted to White girls. I was never really attracted to them before. Now, my absolute fave, which drives me out of my mind is a THICK White girl!!! Even a fit small BBW.
There was one BEAUTIFUL BBW which was reviewed her several years ago. Think her name was Christine. I kept looking at her her picture and thinking I may have to try. She was so beautiful. Her being BBW did affect my decision. I decided to pull the trigger later one night. I called her but she was just calling it quits for the night. She ghosted the scene after that. Shame!
 
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