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red

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Teachers making noises about going on strike.


Given the surplus of teachers- should the gov't consider firing teachers who go on strike? fire them in descending seniority- highest seniority first
 

canada-man

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what do these teachers and thier supporters think the rest of us do when we don't like our jobs and don't have the same benefits as them?

that's right we resign and find another one
 

train

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Don't forget - they are going on strike for the kids !
 

richaceg

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teaching now has become a hefty $$$ career. it's not about molding young minds anymore...or passion.
 

GameBoy27

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I was listening to a retired school board trustee being interviewed the other day. He said it would drive him nuts when a principal would retire early, collect their pension and sick days then apply for a vice-principal job a few months later effectively double dipping. Or the teachers who retire, collect pension then get rehired as subs. He said they'd even tell people in meetings that they were going to retire and then double dip. I call Bullshit! :mad:
 

HEYHEY

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I hope that the toronto police's budget is also frozen, along with pay. As well as all government employees...
 

sniffer0310

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Wow anyone of u experts spent 5 years of university to become a teacher,and by the way if most of them where paid by the hour it would cost a hell of alot more.
 

red

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Wow anyone of u experts spent 5 years of university to become a teacher,and by the way if most of them where paid by the hour it would cost a hell of alot more.
thanks for the teachers perspective
 

james t kirk

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Wow anyone of u experts spent 5 years of university to become a teacher,and by the way if most of them where paid by the hour it would cost a hell of alot more.
Har

Highschool teachers cap out around 95 grand. But they only work 9 months a year.

For the sake of arguement, let's say they work 10 months because everyone else gets 3 or 4 weeks off per year after 10 years.

95k x 12/10 = $114,000.00 per year.

We won't even get into how many hours a day they work - about 4 or 5 at the most. (Pretty sweet deal.)

A buck 14 is a pretty good wage. Never mind all the primo bennefits and pension.
 

sniffer0310

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Highschool teachers cap out around 95 grand. But they only work 9 months a year.

For the sake of arguement, let's say they work 10 months because everyone else gets 3 or 4 weeks off per year after 10 years.

95k x 12/10 = $114,000.00 per year.

We won't even get into how many hours a day they work - about 4 or 5 at the most. (Pretty sweet deal.)

I then ask you sir how much should a certified professional in there field in the province of Ontario make if they were paid by the hour.

Also I did not specifically say secondary.

A buck 14 is a pretty good wage. Never mind all the primo bennefits and pension.[/QUOTE
 

canada-man

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Har

Highschool teachers cap out around 95 grand. But they only work 9 months a year.

For the sake of arguement, let's say they work 10 months because everyone else gets 3 or 4 weeks off per year after 10 years.

95k x 12/10 = $114,000.00 per year.

We won't even get into how many hours a day they work - about 4 or 5 at the most. (Pretty sweet deal.)

I then ask you sir how much should a certified professional in there field in the province of Ontario make if they were paid by the hour.

Also I did not specifically say secondary.

A buck 14 is a pretty good wage. Never mind all the primo bennefits and pension.[/QUOTE
they get 95K a year when the average Canadian Salary is $46,000 a year


to the striking teachers that earn more than the Average Canadian

 

trtinajax

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Instead of bitching aout the teachers, maybe you should read Bill 115 and consider the implications if the Liberals get away with this. Quote from Bill 115 -

Restrictions on review

No review by court
15. (1) No term or condition included in an employment contract or collective agreement under or by virtue of this Act, process for consultation prescribed under this Act, or decision, approval, act, advice, direction, regulation or order made by the Minister or Lieutenant Governor in Council under this Act shall be questioned or reviewed in any court.
Same
(2) No steps shall be taken to have a court question, review, prohibit or restrain any consultation, review or approval process prescribed or initiated under this Act at the Minister’s or Lieutenant Governor in Council’s discretion.
Restriction on review by arbitrator, Ontario Labour Relations Board
(3) Terms and conditions included in a collective agreement under or by virtue of this Act shall not be questioned or reviewed by an arbitrator, an arbitration board or the Ontario Labour Relations Board, except as provided by those terms or conditions.

Sort of makes the Government ALL SUPREME. No court is allowed to review or relue any of the Liberal's laws as being unconstitutional. Once this piece of legislation is allowed to stand it will be the precident for all future legislation in this country. Stephen Harper can pass his own legislation making him Prime Minister for life and simply include a clause as above that the legislation cannot be reviewed by the courts.

I would also ask the Education Minister why when the Durham Board & their High School Teachers last month negotiated a contract that was lower cost than that negotiotated by the Catholic teachers she rejected it because they didn't do as she dictated. Cost is not an issue here - the egos of Liberal Cabinet members and their entitlement to dictate to the citizens of Ontario.

We have the same attitude and law regarding the building of Dalton's windmills across the Province. Citizens, municipalties, regions were all stripped of their legal rights on that issue but nobody has yet had the courage to stand up to him on that issue.

Maybe if we really want democracy in this country we SHOULD be supporting the teachers and not bitching about them. Of course maybe the majority of you come from dicatorships and want to re-make Canada into the country you fled.
 

red

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Instead of bitching aout the teachers, maybe you should read Bill 115 and consider the implications if the Liberals get away with this. Quote from Bill 115 -

Restrictions on review

No review by court
15. (1) No term or condition included in an employment contract or collective agreement under or by virtue of this Act, process for consultation prescribed under this Act, or decision, approval, act, advice, direction, regulation or order made by the Minister or Lieutenant Governor in Council under this Act shall be questioned or reviewed in any court.
Same
(2) No steps shall be taken to have a court question, review, prohibit or restrain any consultation, review or approval process prescribed or initiated under this Act at the Minister’s or Lieutenant Governor in Council’s discretion.
Restriction on review by arbitrator, Ontario Labour Relations Board
(3) Terms and conditions included in a collective agreement under or by virtue of this Act shall not be questioned or reviewed by an arbitrator, an arbitration board or the Ontario Labour Relations Board, except as provided by those terms or conditions.

Sort of makes the Government ALL SUPREME. No court is allowed to review or relue any of the Liberal's laws as being unconstitutional. Once this piece of legislation is allowed to stand it will be the precident for all future legislation in this country. Stephen Harper can pass his own legislation making him Prime Minister for life and simply include a clause as above that the legislation cannot be reviewed by the courts.

I would also ask the Education Minister why when the Durham Board & their High School Teachers last month negotiated a contract that was lower cost than that negotiotated by the Catholic teachers she rejected it because they didn't do as she dictated. Cost is not an issue here - the egos of Liberal Cabinet members and their entitlement to dictate to the citizens of Ontario.

We have the same attitude and law regarding the building of Dalton's windmills across the Province. Citizens, municipalties, regions were all stripped of their legal rights on that issue but nobody has yet had the courage to stand up to him on that issue.

Maybe if we really want democracy in this country we SHOULD be supporting the teachers and not bitching about them. Of course maybe the majority of you come from dicatorships and want to re-make Canada into the country you fled.
i hope you don't teach in our schools or the standards are lower than I thought
 
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