TDSB "Trades Council" union out of control - The Star out for Liberal blood

[fuji]

Those of you who hate Liberals and would never read The Star because you perceive it as being biased really should browse over to their site and read through their investigative reports on the "Trades Council" that performs all trades work for Toronto District School Board.

The Star has been absolutely ruthless in uncovering scams those guys are running, charging $3000 to install an electrical outlet in a school, billing the taxpayer while drinking in bars and hanging out at Tim Hortons, and then turning around and requiring workers to campaign for the Provincial Liberal party.

I really don't think any other paper in Canada does investigative journalism quite as well as the Star.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article...to-campaign-for-trustees-mpps-by-union-bosses

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1215445--popular-tdsb-principal-backed-by-his-association

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1214758--toronto-schools-pay-high-prices-for-small-jobs

 

[slowpoke]

Those of you who hate Liberals and would never read The Star because you perceive it as being biased really should browse over to their site and read through their investigative reports on the "Trades Council" that performs all trades work for Toronto District School Board.

The Star has been absolutely ruthless in uncovering scams those guys are running, charging $3000 to install an electrical outlet in a school, billing the taxpayer while drinking in bars and hanging out at Tim Hortons, and then turning around and requiring workers to campaign for the Provincial Liberal party.

I really don't think any other paper in Canada does investigative journalism quite as well as the Star.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article...to-campaign-for-trustees-mpps-by-union-bosses

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1215445--popular-tdsb-principal-backed-by-his-association

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1214758--toronto-schools-pay-high-prices-for-small-jobs

I couldn't agree more!

It's actually quite hilarious when you consider how many righties on this board routinely dismiss the Star as a loonie left wing rag. Meanwhile, the Star is just about the only major newspaper that consistently investigates the issues and comes up with these kinds of original stories. The other papers just sit around waiting to repeat whatever comes in from The Canadian Press and other news gathering outfits.

Imagine what would have happened if we'd relied only on the National Post or the Sun or the Globe and mail to dig a little deeper into the actions of those rogue cops during the G20 fiasco. Nothing would have happened and that's the problem...the cops would have swept the whole thing under the rug and waltzed away with no real accountability for their criminal excesses. The Star made a big difference then and they continue to make a difference now. Lucky for us because this stuff needs to see the light of day if we're ever going to rectify these costly abuses. We all benefit from the Star's excellent work. Some of us just don't appreciate it.

 

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Gravy

Those of you who hate Liberals and would never read The Star because you perceive it as being biased really should browse over to their site and read through their investigative reports on the "Trades Council" that performs all trades work for Toronto District School Board.

The Star has been absolutely ruthless in uncovering scams those guys are running, charging $3000 to install an electrical outlet in a school, billing the taxpayer while drinking in bars and hanging out at Tim Hortons, and then turning around and requiring workers to campaign for the Provincial Liberal party.

I really don't think any other paper in Canada does investigative journalism quite as well as the Star.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article...to-campaign-for-trustees-mpps-by-union-bosses

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1215445--popular-tdsb-principal-backed-by-his-association

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1214758--toronto-schools-pay-high-prices-for-small-jobs

I have always said..........once the unions FINALY got it that the NDP were not doing it for them, they switched, to get the Libs elected.

Other wise, who the hell would vote for Ignuty and Mcwimpy ???

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[Possum Trot]

I couldn't agree more!

It's actually quite hilarious when you consider how many righties on this board routinely dismiss the Star as a loonie left wing rag. Meanwhile, the Star is just about the only major newspaper that consistently investigates the issues and comes up with these kinds of original stories.

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Typical loonie leftie ignoring the story and patting the Star on the back for some local story which is of little interest to the national newspapers. No comment on the actual story boys ? Obviously you don't think its important enough to slag the government over :biggrin1:

 

[oldjones]

Typical loonie leftie ignoring the story and patting the Star on the back for some local story which is of little interest to the national newspapers. No comment on the actual story boys ? Obviously you don't think its important enough to slag the government over :biggrin1:

I thought the T in TERB was for Toronto, which makes a Toronto story in a Toronto paper quite appropriate for comment here. I'm sure the national papers have national concerns form time to time, but apparently none of interest to you today.

Why you think slagging the government is the only, or even any useful measure of importance, I cannot imagine. Us benighted locals might imagine getting the situation corrected ranks higher. But thanks for your insight.

 

[oldjones]

I have always said.......... …edit…

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Whenever someone starts with, "I've always said…" what they're really pointing out is that no one ever listened. Given that there's absolutely no connection between the national and provincial pols mentioned and this instance of old fashioned union feather-bedding it's easy to see why.

 

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If its old fashioned..... It must be ok

Whenever someone starts with, "I've always said…" what they're really pointing out is that no one ever listened. Given that there's absolutely no connection between the national and provincial pols mentioned and this instance of old fashioned union feather-bedding it's easy to see why.

In your case, you obviously NEVER listen to anybody, otherwise you wouldn’t reply with the same old and tired union BS.

As in the other thread, about unions causing sickness, in your case, it appears to also affect the ability to read.

I never said there was ANYTHING about poles, simply that unions went from illegally supporting the NDP to the LIBS, ... it sure has worked in Ontario.

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[rld]

In your case, you obviously NEVER listen to anybody, otherwise you wouldn’t reply with the same old and tired union BS.

As in the other thread, about unions causing sickness, in your case, it appears to also affect the ability to read.

I never said there was ANYTHING about poles, simply that unions went from illegally supporting the NDP to the LIBS, ... it sure has worked in Ontario.

FAST

Poles...well close enough.

But if you think what the unions have done is illegal, why don't you start a private prosecution?

 

[Moviefan-2]

Those of you who hate Liberals and would never read The Star because you perceive it as being biased really should browse over to their site and read through their investigative reports on the "Trades Council" that performs all trades work for Toronto District School Board.

In terms of its editorial positions, the Star is biased -- and proud of it. Check out the newspaper's Atkinson Principles (http://www.thestar.com/atkinsonseries/article/542441--the-atkinson-principles).

That said, I agree with Fuji (and have agreed with him on this point before, somewhere in the archives...) that the newspaper's investigative reports have gone after governments of all stripes, including the provincial Liberals.

For example, it was the Star that unearthed the ORNGE scandal.

Furthermore, I don't think the newspaper's left-of-centre editorial bias is a reason not to read it. I'm probably old-fashioned, but I think it is a good idea to get exposure to a range of opinions, not just viewpoints you agree with.

 

[fuji]

Typical loonie leftie ignoring the story and patting the Star on the back for some local story which is of little interest to the national newspapers. No comment on the actual story boys ? Obviously you don't think its important enough to slag the government over :biggrin1:

See post #1 and stop thinking that the rest of the world is as inanely partisan as you are.

 

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A lawyers responce

But if you think what the unions have done is illegal, why don't you start a private prosecution?

Unions forcing workers to work for a political party is LEGAL?
WOW, I would really like to know the name of his practise..........so I could avoid at all costs.

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I guess he’s still "practicing"

 

[slowpoke]

Typical loonie leftie ignoring the story and patting the Star on the back for some local story which is of little interest to the national newspapers. No comment on the actual story boys ? Obviously you don't think its important enough to slag the government over :biggrin1:

So the federal government can cough up almost 1 $Billion to host the G20 summit (that big "international" conference where the leaders of the 20 largest countries / economies in the known universe attend) and you're quite happy to stand there and dismiss this event as merely "some local story which is of little interest to the national newspapers"? Good thing you included that goofy smilie icon so we all "know" you were only kidding. You were only kidding....right?

 

[train]

See post #1 and stop thinking that the rest of the world is as inanely partisan as you are.

You not only missed the smilie you missed the point.

The real story is not which newspaper reported it but what I have been complaining about since the last provincial election, which is backdoor, off-the-record election funding by unions. This may not violate current election spending law but it certainly violates the spirit of the law.

This was in fact reported by the Post when it was a national story in the last provincial election. It was not reported when it was was a schoolboard local story.

 

[Possum Trot]

So the federal government can cough up almost 1 $Billion to host the G20 summit (that big "international" conference where the leaders of the 20 largest countries / economies in the known universe attend) and you're quite happy to stand there and dismiss this event as merely "some local story which is of little interest to the national newspapers"? Good thing you included that goofy smilie icon so we all "know" you were only kidding. You were only kidding....right?

This is a real head scratcher. Perhaps you can refresh my memory where I said that the G20 summit was some local story? You reduced to making up silly points totally out of the blue now? I thought that was fuji's specialty.

PS yes I was kidding you but you really did miss the point. BTW you can substitute the word district for local in my original post if it makes you feel any better.

 

[fuji]

You not only missed the smilie you missed the point.

The real story is not which newspaper reported it but what I have been complaining about since the last provincial election, which is backdoor, off-the-record election funding by unions. This may not violate current election spending law but it certainly violates the spirit of the law.

This was in fact reported by the Post when it was a national story in the last provincial election. It was not reported when it was was a schoolboard local story.

"Reported by" is not the same thing as investigative journalism. The Post get almost all their stories from press conferences, from the CBC, or the Canadian Press. They do very little investigative journalism. The Star is actually one of the very few news organizations in Canada that actually does.

 

[groggy]

You not only missed the smilie you missed the point.

The real story is not which newspaper reported it but what I have been complaining about since the last provincial election, which is backdoor, off-the-record election funding by unions. This may not violate current election spending law but it certainly violates the spirit of the law.

This was in fact reported by the Post when it was a national story in the last provincial election. It was not reported when it was was a schoolboard local story.

As opposed to the conservative way, get some friend or relative to force their employees to donate for you.
See Dean Del Mastro or wait for more info in the Quebec scandal.

 

[oldjones]

As opposed to the conservative way, get some friend or relative to force their employees to donate for you.
See Dean Del Mastro or wait for more info in the Quebec scandal.

There's zero new about people with power abusing it to coerce others to advance their personal political preferences. It has always been with us and always will be. That's why we have a free press to expose it and demand some measure of openess and accountability from those in public life and institutions. We can never have too much. It should be noted that a recent ranking suggests Our Harper Government is less open and forthcoming than the government of Angola.

We also note that we used to have an political financing law that paid parties according to votes, and which was open to scrutiny and audit, although it was far from perfect, but Our Harper Government did away with that and secrecy has increased. Would that they, and their provincial and municipal counterparts were working the other way, so the sorts of abuse train and groggy recount became rarer.

 

[msog87]

Those of you who hate Liberals and would never read The Star because you perceive it as being biased really should browse over to their site and read through their investigative reports on the "Trades Council" that performs all trades work for Toronto District School Board.

The Star has been absolutely ruthless in uncovering scams those guys are running, charging $3000 to install an electrical outlet in a school, billing the taxpayer while drinking in bars and hanging out at Tim Hortons, and then turning around and requiring workers to campaign for the Provincial Liberal party.

I really don't think any other paper in Canada does investigative journalism quite as well as the Star.

http://www.thestar.com/news/article...to-campaign-for-trustees-mpps-by-union-bosses

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/1215445--popular-tdsb-principal-backed-by-his-association

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1214758--toronto-schools-pay-high-prices-for-small-jobs

news is news, I doubt any paper will throw away a good story. there is no honour among thieves and this also goes for newspaper reporters

 

[msog87]

my question to the lefties is, why after hearing about waste/corruption like this do u support the public sector

 

[fuji]

news is news, I doubt any paper will throw away a good story. there is no honour among thieves and this also goes for newspaper reporters

The story did not fall into their lap. The Star sent reporters to ferret it out. Had they not done so there would be no story.

No doubt you read one of those rags that does no investigative journalism and as a result relies on political party press conferences for its news.

The National Post and the Sun think journalism means showing up to the scrum and asking hard questions. Well that's the Post, at the Sun they ask leading questions.