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Tasered at Best Buy!

ig-88

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Woman pays for something with credit card. Cashier thinks the credit card is phony. Woman abruptly goes to leave the store, without the merchandise and the credit card. Cashier notifies a nearby cop, who attempts to calm down the woman. Woman, according to cop, starts cussing and pointing her finger, but was not violent. Cop then tases the chick and slaps on the cuffs.

Turns out the credit card was the chick's all along.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdCUdR8qNF4
 

yeet

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I thought that was pretty bad. Not only do they tase her but they arrest her for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. Apparently she commited 2 crimes on that video.

Tasers are supposed to be a "less than lethal" option when something less than shooting someone is warranted. Not a normal way of arresting someone. Wtf is wrong with America?

All she did was back away and wail her arms in shock and disbelief as the officer accused her of credit card fraud. She looked like a middle-class soccer mom who had probably never done anything wrong in her life and was undergoing a fairly normal reaction to being accused of fraud.

The sad part is how getting angry at being accused of a crime is a crime in itself.
 

ARMarshall

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I don't believe that it is a question of training. It's more about the types of characters that are are hired to be cops. I had occasion a number of years ago where I had to hire pay duty police on a regular basis. And I didn't get to select who came to the job. They were sent by the station according to some priority established internally.

I couldn't believe the number of these guys who were absolute jerks. Yes, there were some of them who were fine men who took their jobs seriously and with understanding of their responsibility to the public, and they were worthy of the respect that should be accorded to people in their position. But there were a whole bunch of others who looked as though they had been hired simply because they were big, and therefore physically imposing. And they didn't have a clue how to do anything other than act tough. They ended up causing more problems than they resolved. It was through this contact that I lost a lot of respect for the police and became a believer when I read accounts of their over reactions (to put it mildly) to so many situations that could have been talked down by an individual with the right demeanor. You would be surprised to learn how many incidents such as the one above occur without getting the attention of the media.

Police hiring should be based more on pyschological profiles rather than on physical characteristics. And then we would find that we don't have malcontents wearing a uniform who get their jolies out of tasering a middle aged defenceless woman.
 

Never Compromised

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The "class bully" of my high school graduating class joined the OPP right out of school. Although he was a football "star", he could not add 2 + 5 without a calculator.
 

hunter001

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Compromised said:
The "class bully" of my high school graduating class joined the OPP right out of school. Although he was a football "star", he could not add 2 + 5 without a calculator.
Mine tried to play C.F.L. football, before going to cop school, then joined a small town force...
 

Gyaos

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Ironic, the news anchor's name is Jim "Payne" and the reporter's name was "A Strike". Where do they come up with this stuff, I thought the Writer's Guild was on strike?

Gyaos Baltar.
 

techtwelve

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ARMarshall said:
Police hiring should be based more on pyschological profiles rather than on physical characteristics.
They do perform extensive psychological assessments when hiring. The problems stems from the culture and environment relating to taser use, not to mention the superiority complex some of these guys have when donning the uniform. The caveat is the MAJORITY of officers are great guys/gals and take their job of public service seriously.

The problem with Taser is that being non-lethal therefore can be use haphazardly. If you use a baton, it leaves evidence of physical injuries. Injuries that you can comprehend. Tasers leaves nothing behind other than a small mark. The results can still be devastating. Case in point, the death at the airport.

Nonetheless, these are tools available. Officers are trained to use force applicable and appropriate for any given circumstance and never go above what is necessary. The best tool an officer can use is their vocabulary. From the evidence at hand, it appears this officer use of the taser was unnecessary.
 
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Scarey

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I wouldn;t cry too much for her.She couldn't be reached for comment because her lawyer probably told her to keep her mouth shut as they prepared a HUGE F%cking lawsuit against Best Buy and the police force involved.she'll get some cash out of this screw up for sure.
 

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Compromised said:
The "class bully" of my high school graduating class joined the OPP right out of school. Although he was a football "star", he could not add 2 + 5 without a calculator.
The three worst shit-disturbers in my class joined Metro right after high school.
 

shakenbake

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thirdtime said:
The three worst shit-disturbers in my class joined Metro right after high school.
A fellow high school student, whose murder charge and conviction were well publicised many years ago, was the school bully, and went on to become one of Toronto's Finest (not). He was a disgrace to the force.
 

CapitalGuy

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She deserved to get tased. Do what you're fucking told, already. Cop gets called into a situation, has seconds to assess it, tells the lady to stop, she keeps backing away, he has no idea what the deal is, but the lady keeps backing away even though she's repeatedly told to stop.

You can hate cops all you want, but they're empowered to give us direction under certain circumstances, and you'd best do what they tell you to do when something's going down.
 
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There is no audio on the surveillance tape. There is no way for us to tell on what was said to whom. All we can see is the cop forced the lady to back away and then eventually tased her.

The public is just not trained on how to deal with the bully force.
 

elmufdvr

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if you are told to stop ,,then you stop... that is it... f#cken b!tch did not. and got it... she will learn to stop next time... the cop might not be at fault... i know a few cops in metro and they are good guys and they take a lot of shi! from people.. one day enuf is enuf. if you do as asked then there is no reason to get bullied.. and there are asho!es on the force .. yes.. there are assho!es every where.. ttc, hydro, consumers gas, metro police, fire deparment, mac's milk.. and even here.. i am one once and a while... that cop was an asshole ..she was a dumb c#nt.. and what do you get... a compleat mess.. my two canadian cents
 

twentynine

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Sounds like you were one of those bullies in highschool. "if you do as asked then there is no reason to get bullied"?? Yes, bullying in the victim's fault, of course!
 

Aardvark154

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Several points:

There is no audio, so we don’t know what the two women said to each other.

It’s hard to tell but it looks like the shopper is taller than the police officer
(this may have influenced the officer’s decision to taser her)

Whether or not the officer’s decision to taser her was wise, the shopper’s behaviour does appear to aggravate the situation, she did not act in a manner likely to defuse matters, attempting to leave rather than asking to see a supervisor certainly got things off on the wrong foot.

Politically incorrect as it may be to point this out, the fact that the police officer is black and the shopper white, may well have served to aggravate the situation.
 

shack

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twentynine said:
Sounds like you were one of those bullies in highschool. "if you do as asked then there is no reason to get bullied"?? Yes, bullying in the victim's fault, of course!
Invalid comparison.

A bully at school is not empowered by the government to uphold law and order. A bully sets his own parameters and is answerable to no one. A cop is only doing his job. If you don't do what he says you're either guilty and want to get away or you're a fucking moron.
 
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elmufdvr said:
if you are told to stop ,,then you stop... that is it... f#cken b!tch did not. and got it... she will learn to stop next time... the cop might not be at fault... i know a few cops in metro and they are good guys and they take a lot of shi! from people.. one day enuf is enuf. if you do as asked then there is no reason to get bullied.. and there are asho!es on the force .. yes.. there are assho!es every where.. ttc, hydro, consumers gas, metro police, fire deparment, mac's milk.. and even here.. i am one once and a while... that cop was an asshole ..she was a dumb c#nt.. and what do you get... a compleat mess.. my two canadian cents
There are bad apples in every line of work. What makes it so upsetting to be dealing with bad apples in the police is the fact that they are a monopoly. When you don't like a certain milk store, you can always switch to another brand. When you are not happy with the post office, you have got a variety of couriers to choose from. It's a free market economy. However, when you run into a bad apple cop, you do not have the right to ask to be served by someone else. Cops don't need to be competing with the mall security forces to get business.

Maybe they should deregulate law enforcement like what they have done with telecommunication. I envision a handful of law enforcement agencies bidding on policing contracts for a varieties of municipalities.
 
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Aardvark154 said:
Several points:

There is no audio, so we don’t know what the two women said to each other.

It’s hard to tell but it looks like the shopper is taller than the police officer
(this may have influenced the officer’s decision to taser her)

Whether or not the officer’s decision to taser her was wise, the shopper’s behaviour does appear to aggravate the situation, she did not act in a manner likely to defuse matters, attempting to leave rather than asking to see a supervisor certainly got things off on the wrong foot.

Politically incorrect as it may be to point this out, the fact that the police officer is black and the shopper white, may well have served to aggravate the situation.
Judging from the video, the cop is heavier than the shopper.

A shopper goes into a retail outlet to spend a few bucks and expect to walk away with some merchandise. I don't imagine anyone in their right mind would walk into a retail outlet looking to defuse anything. I'm speculating that the lady was already agitated due to other stuff that happened before she entered the store, she's probably already running late and was rushing to get some shopping done. When the store clerk failed to authorize her credit card purchase, she probably just decided not to deal with the aggravation and just leave without the purchase and move on. She must have been really ticked off when the cop attempted to prevent her from leaving when she had apparently done nothing wrong or suspicious.

Shoppers are human too.
 
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