Tariffs are illegal

squeezer

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I guess the oligarchy didn't approve and gave the SC their marching orders.

Its gonna be a big mess trying to repay and cancel everything.
totally awesome

" Though it marks a significant defeat for the president, he retains avenues to still push through his tariff agenda. Congress has constitutional authority to impose new tariffs, and Trump may try to justify tariffs under another, existing law. "

Unfortunately, I don’t believe this will stop Trump. I think he will use any means necessary to pursue what I see as the dismantling of world economies
 
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Phil C. McNasty

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" Though it marks a significant defeat for the president, he retains avenues to still push through his tariff agenda. Congress has constitutional authority to impose new tariffs, and Trump may try to justify tariffs under another, existing law. "

Unfortunately, I don’t believe this will stop Trump. I think he will use any means necessary to pursue what I see as the dismantling of world economies
Look dude, I prefer no tariffs, but even if Trump does that it still wont be the end of the world.
Canada, the US, and the EU will continue to function relatively normal, tariffs or no tariffs
 
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Of course he will try another way, they have been anticipating this since it went to the SC. Hopefully when the legal challenges happen, any tariffs he tries will be stayed until it makes it's way to the SC again. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe this case had seen a lower court stay the tariffs which then got overturned by an appellate court.

At any rate, it's still a blow to the administration as they can now see that they don't own the court as they thought.
 
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squeezer

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Look dude, I prefer no tariffs, but even if Trump does that it still wont be the end of the world.
Canada, the US, and the EU will continue to function relatively normal, tariffs or no tariffs
Sure, they will as they slowly wean off the US and its nonsense, albeit they are stalling to see if this idiot croaks or gets decimated in November.
 

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" Though it marks a significant defeat for the president, he retains avenues to still push through his tariff agenda. Congress has constitutional authority to impose new tariffs, and Trump may try to justify tariffs under another, existing law. "

Unfortunately, I don’t believe this will stop Trump. I think he will use any means necessary to pursue what I see as the dismantling of world economies
I agree, its not like trump has listened to the courts before.
The tricky part for him here is that congress will never approve the tariffs and people will start to refuse to pay them.
Not to mention I'm sure there are some CEO's that are prepping the invoices for tariff rebates right now, and trump will have a tougher time ignoring them.

But this is going to be trouble for trump.
 
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from AI

Trump's Potential "Game Two" Plan:
While he cannot veto the court's decision, the administration has indicated it may try to keep tariffs in place through other legal channels that were not the subject of this specific ruling:
  • Section 232 (National Security): Tariffs justified on national security grounds (e.g., steel and aluminum).
  • Section 301 (Unfair Trade): Retaliatory tariffs against countries found to have unfair trade practices.
Note on Congressional Vetoes: You may be hearing about "vetoes" because Congress recently passed resolutions to block some of Trump's tariffs (such as those on Canada). The president can veto those legislative resolutions, and Congress would need a two-thirds supermajority to override him. However, this is entirely separate from his inability to veto a Supreme Court ruling.

so the Trump tarrifs are not going away any time real soon
however the U.S. supreme court has handed Canada a huge amount of leverage in this dispute
and leverage is what Trump knows and understands very well

Canada's Supply Management system will be viewed as unfair trade practices in the U.S., independent of how Canadians view Supply Management.
specially Dairy

in the end to get a deal, we will need to open our market up to US Dairy >>> lower prices for Canadian families who are getting hammer by food inflation
 
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The orange cancerous tumor is not done He promises to reinstall himself in other places. Let us hope the chemotherapy of the mid terms will kill it off.

 
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Unfortunately for Canada it may not be great. All the steel ,aluminum and copper are on a different type of tariff.
Wouldn't this ruling affect those tariffs as well?
 

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My guess is that Trump has realized the tariffs are a disaster and the Supreme Court ruling against him gives him an out.So now he has someone to blame instead of being labeled a taco again
 
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Trump not that deep a thinker. He liked tariffs because it gives him the power to use them as a personal weapon to reward and punish.
Then he misunderstood them and/or convinced himself they'll work because other countries pay for them. He for sure knows now it's not true that other countries pay - americans do -but he has to keep up the lie.

The US constitution is pretty clear only congress has that power (the previous court ruled 9-0 that Trump does not have the tariff power), and the current state of affairs are not dire, wartime emergencies.
But I believe he just liked the weapon and the rest is just rationalization.
 
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Wouldn't this ruling affect those tariffs as well?
Not all tariffs are gone.
Only the ones put under the 1977 IEEPA, are ruled illegal.
But this makes up over 60% of all Trump tariffs.
The ones under Section 232, like on Steel, Aluminum, Lumber and Automobile parts etc remain.
But yes, this is a kick in Trump's dirty diapers and he is not taking this well.
Apparently, he got enraged in the middle of breakfast with reporters and threw them out lmfao.
 
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Trump not that deep a thinker. He liked tariffs because it gives him the power to use them as a personal weapon to reward and punish.
Then he misunderstood them and/or convinced himself they'll work because other countries pay for them. He for sure knows now it's not true other countries pay but he has to keep up the lie.

The US constitution is pretty clear only congress has that power (the previous court ruled 9-0 that Trump does not have the tariff power), and the current state of affairs are not dire, wartime emergencies.
But I believe he just liked the weapon and the rest is just rationalization.
Agreed, trump is a moron.
But the people around him are using him.
Like Lutnick, this just gives him more to laugh about.


 

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This is a huge blow for Trump, but a big gain for Canada and the EU (y)
I don't see how it's a big gain for Canada. We were already exempt from the vast majority of tariffs via CUSMA, and the real pain points are the sectoral tariffs (steel, lumber, etc), which aren't affected by this ruling, unfortunately.

Wouldn't this ruling affect those tariffs as well?
No, those were imposed using a different method.
 
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Trump is going to be gelded multiple times this year. November will be much worse
 
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