Tariff threat from Trump, the damage is already done...

[JeanGary Diablo]

if Alberta leaves, yes

Nobody's going anywhere. Provinces cannot unilaterally 'leave' the country; it's a myth that they can.

All the other nine provinces and the federal government would have to unanimously approve this, according to Section 41 of the constitution, and that's sure as shit not going to happen.

Also, all the crying and whining from Alberta is over equalization payments; those come from federal taxes, not provincial ones, since AB has no PST. If Albertans want to pay less in equalization, they need to stop buying so many ugly pickup trucks.

 

[nottyboi]

you asked a question about choices for an investment
its not my fault you did not like the answer , even though it was obvious you would have stated the US as well.

clown

Can't even answer a very basic question, just like your idol PP. lol just moaning and whining with a loose association with reality, .

 

[JohnLarue]

Nobody's going anywhere. Provinces cannot unilaterally 'leave' the country; it's a myth that they can.

You had better tell Quebec.
They came within half of a percentage point of doing so in 1995
Old Jean Crietian was racing around like crazy in a last ditch effort to win a no vote. He took the myth very seriously
You had better tell Crietian & oh yes tell Yves-François Blanchet his party Bloc Québécois is based on myth
Boy will he be surprized and feel foolish

All the other nine provinces and the federal government would have to unanimously approve this, according to Section 41 of the constitution, and that's sure as shit not going to happen.

If they vote to separate , they will no longer be bound by that piece of paper.

If people want to leave, they leave , unless you would send in the army which get Trump directly involved >>> very bad idea
everything else would be a negotiation, with the country of Canada in a very very weak position
again, all avoidable if Ottawa stops trying to destroy their economy. Justin Trudeau resigning was a step in the right direction

you should try debating the constitutional issue with Quebec politician's if you feel so strongly.
watch your wallet with that slippery lot

 

[JohnLarue]

Can't even answer a very basic question, just like your idol PP. lol just moaning and whining with a loose association with reality, .

Too funny
you are not at all self-aware and it is comical

you carefully avoided this question from post #17
Do you get it now ?

now why would you do that ?

go back and read post #17
and answer the question
Do you get it now ?

Clown

just like your idol PP. lol just moaning and whining with a loose association with reality, .

this so ironic after listening to your moron Trudeau not answer a direct question for nine long painful years
it was like finger nails on a chalk board every time he spoke
and that is definitely not just me who has this view

BTW Pierre most definitely answers direct questions and is well anchored in reality
Hey Pierre will you cancel the evil and hated carbon tax?
Pierre : Yes I will
Hey Pierre will you undue Trudeaus regulatory nightmare?
Pierre : Yes I will

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

You had better tell Quebec.
They came within half of a percentage point of doing so in 1995
Old Jean Crietian was racing around like crazy in a last ditch effort to win a no vote. He took the myth very seriously
You had better tell Crietian & oh yes tell Yves-François Blanchet his party Bloc Québécois is based on myth
Boy will he be surprized and feel foolish



If they vote to separate , they will no longer be bound by that piece of paper.

If people want to leave, they leave , unless you would send in the army which get Trump directly involved >>> very bad idea
everything else would be a negotiation, with the country of Canada in a very very weak position
again, all avoidable if Ottawa stops trying to destroy their economy. Justin Trudeau resigning was a step in the right direction

you should try debating the constitutional issue with Quebec politician's if you feel so strongly.
watch your wallet with that slippery lot

WRONG. That was a referendum in 1995. If the Yes side won, Quebec would not have automatically been granted sovereignty. The amendment needed for that would have then been taken back to the other 9 provinces to vote on it. And this is where all that jolly-good fun with trying to fuck with the Constitution starts!!

Other provinces, like probably Alberta, for instance, would have said, "OK, we'll sign, but in return for us signing, what are YOU going to do for us?

You don't remember the ill-fated Meech Lake Accord?

 

[nottyboi]

WRONG. That was a referendum in 1995. If the Yes side won, Quebec would not have automatically been granted sovereignty. The amendment needed for that would have then been taken back to the other 9 provinces to vote on it. And this is where all that jolly-good fun with trying to fuck with the Constitution starts!!

Other provinces, like probably Alberta, for instance, would have said, "OK, we'll sign, but in return for us signing, what are YOU going to do for us?

You don't remember the ill-fated Meech Lake Accord?

The quetion of the plebecite must be clear and concise, and approved by the house of commons. The house of commons has 30 days to consider the clarity of the question. So if they ask a clear question and they win, its a DONE DEAL Then the terms would have to be negotaited, national debt pensions blabla so it would take time but its not possible to stop.

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

Too funny
you are not at all self-aware and it is comical

you carefully avoided this question from post #17
Do you get it now ?

now why would you do that ?

go back and read post #17
and answer the question
Do you get it now ?

Clown

Yet another discussion, with yet another member that goes off the rails with you.
To quote HungSowel's post:

I have never seen you take responsibility for mistakes you have made. When you have made a mistake I have seen you lash out like a child and make up an excuse to put "people on ignore" while actually not putting them on ignore, it is your way to avoid taking responsibility but your mind is so fried that you still reply to their posts revealing that you never put them on ignore.

Any semblance of civility, maturity, and intelligence from you is just a facade. The worst part is that you truly believe you are not and it is others that are the child.

 

[JohnLarue]

WRONG. That was a referendum in 1995. If the Yes side won, Quebec would not have automatically been granted sovereignty. The amendment needed for that would have then been taken back to the other 9 provinces to vote on it. And this is where all that jolly-good fun with trying to fuck with the Constitution starts!!

if Quebec had voted yes and decided to leave do you really believe they would have said " we are separating.... Hold on PEI does not agree .... OK forget separation then"

do not be ridiculous

their answer would the French translation for FU PEI

if people want to leave, they leave , what could you do to prevent it if they decide to leave ?
Nothing

Other provinces, like probably Alberta, for instance, would have said, "OK, we'll sign, but in return for us signing, what are YOU going to do for us?

like I said everything else would be a negotiation, with the country of Canada in a very very weak position

again, all avoidable if Ottawa stops trying to destroy their economy. Justin Trudeau resigning was a step in the right direction

in return for us signing, what are YOU going to do for us?

interesting choice of words given you had nothing but contempt and seething hatred for Albertans

maybe the better question is What would you want from Alberta in return for signing their release, ?

it cant be the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world (quite possibly the most valuable natural resource asset in North America)
Eastern Canada has made it quite clear they do not want that 'filthy dirty tar sands oil", so it cant be that

would you settle for a big steak dinner , a cowboy hat and some free passes to the Stampede for you and the Mrs,?

again, all avoidable if Ottawa stops trying to destroy their economy. Justin Trudeau resigning was a step in the right direction

 

[JeanGary Diablo]

if Quebec had voted yes and decided to leave do you really believe they would have said " we are separating.... Hold on PEI does not agree .... OK forget separation then"

do not be ridiculous

their answer would the French translation for FU PEI

if people want to leave, they leave , what could you do to prevent it if they decide to leave ?
Nothing


like I said everything else would be a negotiation, with the country of Canada in a very very weak position

again, all avoidable if Ottawa stops trying to destroy their economy. Justin Trudeau resigning was a step in the right direction


interesting choice of words given you had nothing but contempt and seething hatred for Albertans

maybe the better question is What would you want from Alberta in return for signing their release, ?

it cant be the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world (quite possibly the most valuable natural resource asset in North America)
Eastern Canada has made it quite clear they do not want that 'filthy dirty tar sands oil", so it cant be that

would you settle for a big steak dinner , a cowboy hat and some free passes to the Stampede for you and the Mrs,?

again, all avoidable if Ottawa stops trying to destroy their economy. Justin Trudeau resigning was a step in the right direction

1. Quebec would become nothing more than a rogue state. That's it. They'd still be part of Canada whether they liked it or not. No country would recognize them.
2. You're correct; I don't like Albertans or Americans. Pure low class. A sizeable portion of Albertans seem to want to be like the redneck faction of the US, and that makes them even worse in my book.
3. I wouldn't wear a cowboy hat if you paid me. I'm Canadian, not some low-grade Yank wannabe.

 

[JohnLarue]

1. Quebec would become nothing more than a rogue state. That's it. They'd still be part of Canada whether they liked it or not. No country would recognize them.

well I agree Quebec separation was not a wise path
they would have been recognized pretty quick by the US at that point in history the US would have wanted to continue to buy Aluminum and inexpensive hydro electric power

FYI if Canada economic deterioration continues , Quebec separation will rear its ugly head again

2. You're correct; I don't like Albertans or Americans. Pure low class. A sizeable portion of Albertans seem to want to be like the redneck faction of the US, and that makes them even worse in my book.

Well that's a shame you have not widened your circle of acquaintances
its also a shame you hate whole populations. It must be tough being so hate filled

3. I wouldn't wear a cowboy hat if you paid me. I'm Canadian, not some low-grade Yank wannabe.

Ok, the cowboy hat wont due for you, I understand -really cumbersome to wear when your packed like a sardine in the subway- I get it

how about a weekend skiing pkg for the family at Sunshine ?
or a tour of the Badlands dinosaur fossil exhibit at Drumheller ? - the kids seem to enjoy to really enjoy that

If not , you tell me , what did you want in exchange for Alberta release?

it cant be the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world (quite possibly the most valuable natural resource asset in North America)
Eastern Canada has made it quite clear they do not want that 'filthy dirty tar sands oil", so it cant possibly be that

or could it be that you do truly value the 3rd largest oil reserve in the world ?
but somehow do not want Albertans to prosper from all the money and development / really hard work they put into that asset. Prosperity they gladly share with their fellow Canadians via huge royalties and taxes
simply because ... ( how did you put it) Pure low class. , Redneck faction

And people wonder why Albertans ponder separation ?
The tolerant left strikes again