TAKE BACK MOTHERS DAY -- Rally and March at Children's Aid Society!!

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TAKE BACK MOTHER’S DAY

MARCH AND PROTEST
May 14th 2006 at 15 Huntley Street at 2:00pm

For most Canadians, Mother’s Day is a time when families honor their mother’s hard work. But for many of low income families find that on Mother’s Day, peace and joy is in very short supply, especially now that more than 30,000 of their youngsters languish in foster homes.

We did not lose our children because of abuse, rather we lost our children because of poverty, lack of affordable adequate housing, being single, being young, having a child with special needs, being in recovery from substance abuse issues, having survived an abusive partner, or having worked in the Adult Entertainment Industry.

Silenced for decades by shame and guilt, we suffered alone with our grief, believing that we were the only ones. Now we find that we are not alone. Mother’s Day began as a day to honor the public activism of mothers. It began in 1870 because mother’s declared that they would not lose their children as casualties of war.

On Sunday May 14th 2006, lets “Take Back Mother’s Day” by joining with Mother’s across Toronto as we rally in front of the Children’s Aid Society at 15 Huntley Street at 2:00pm to demand:

• 40% increase in social assistance rates
• The creation of more housing geared to low income families
• Build more daycare spaces for low income families
• End to the clawback of child tax benefits
• End the discrimination against mother’s who work in the Adult Entertainment Industry
• End the apprehension of children because their mother has a disability


Since the Mike Harris cutbacks to social assistance payments more and more mother’s are in precarious financial circumstances often finding themselves unable to afford their hydro, gas, telephone and other necessities. By not being able to afford these necessities the Children’s Aid Society can intervene and remove the child, citing “neglect”.

Cutbacks in social programs – particularly in the area of housing– have led to shortages of affordable housing. A recent study by the Children’s Aid Society of Toronto found that in the year 2000, housing was a factor in one in five cases where children were taken in care – a dramatic 60% increase over a similar study in 1992. They also found that lack of adequate housing caused a delay in the return of children to their parents in more than 11% of cases.

In cases where their children are taken into care, parents lose their child benefits forcing them to move into smaller apartments or rooms inadequate for living with their children. This creates a catch 22 system where in order for a mother to get her children back she must obtain proper living arrangements that she cannot afford without custody of her children. Thus, it becomes extremely difficult for low income mother’s to get their children back once their children are taken into care. Imagine instead a system that worked in the best interest of the children and their mother’s instead of a system that perpetrates a cycle of poverty and foster care.

Women with disabilities may find themselves under the scrutiny of Children’s Aid Society by virtue of their disability alone. Once scrutinized, it may be difficult to remove oneself from the child protection system. In some cases, women have contacted the Children’s Aid Society for support and assistance with parenting, only to find themselves the subject of an investigation. Other women are reported to the authority during pregnancy and have to fight to prevent the removal of their newborn from their care solely because the authority believes their disability prevents them from being able to parent. Other women, perhaps because of vulnerabilities caused by disability (a tendency to defer to authority, for instance), enter into what they believe to be "voluntary" agreements with Children’s Aid Society only to find those voluntary arrangements used against them later by the same officials.

Many women experiencing substance abuse issues or mood disorders are often hesitant to seek treatment as they fear that in doing so they may lose their children.

Sex workers (dancers, escorts, dominants, phone sex operators), are also at risk of losing their children due to their profession. Even though it is NOT illegal to be a sex worker in Canada, the Children’s Aid workers have discretionary powers for apprehending children of women working in the sex industry. This means that if a CAS worker objects to the mother’s profession based on their own personal moral values, her children can be apprehended and taken into care regardless of whether they’ve experienced any actual abuse.

Furthermore, the number of children who have been taken into temporary custody as a result of witnessing their mother’s being assaulted increased by at least 870% (no that is not a typo) between 1993-1998. With limited income supports, affordable regulated childcare, affordable housing, and emergency shelters operating at full capacity, there are few options for women who are being assaulted and abused, leaving them and their children at risk of continued violence, poverty and involvement with the Children’s Aid Society. Thus, the shortages in affordable housing and emergency shelters are closely linked to the number of children who are victims of prolonged violence and involvement with the Children’s Aid Society.

THIS MOTHER’S DAY LETS STAND UP FOR WOMEN AND THEIR CHILDREN AND
TAKE BACK MOTHER’S DAY!
For more information please contact takebackmothersday@hotmail.com
 

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Everything is political if you want to improve the world.
 

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Svend said:
Everything is political if you want to improve the world.
Spare me okay, whoever this person is they cloak their political crap in a more palatable cover like help on Mothers Day. The writer of course blames Mike Harris ( don't they always) and as a first solution to problems wants a 40% increase if welfare payments ( duh what a surprise) ..
While I have a lot of sympathy for people in genuine need I think we have a growing problem in Ontario of these poor mothers with children all alone because of an absent father. The father is not dead he's just living ( for a short while) with one of the other women he got pregnant.

Lefties take your shots , I don't care. The bleeding hearts that think society should pay for everyones problems are just so predictable.
 

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LancsLad said:
Way to make a simple nice day for Moms into something political. :mad:
Actually I think it is a great idea. It’s about time CAS and other agencies did something. I’ve been a mother on social assistance before my days of escorting and I received nothing more than enough to pay my rent. No money for food or utilities etc, not to mention clothing for my child and me.
At one point my child’s school was providing me food for my girl. Lad before you get upset please take a min to think about the mothers who are in desperate need of this type of action.

I hope for a great turnout

Oh and let me tell you welfare doesn't give single mothers any incentive to get off social assistance. They take pretty much all income made by working off their cheque and 1/2 of the child tax. So they are no further ahead in most cases they are more in need, as the welfare system takes not the net payment from a pay but the gross payment before deductions.


PS...... Mike Harris is the biggest dick noth bay ever produced
 

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luv4lust said:
Actually I think it is a great idea. It’s about time CAS and other agencies did something. I’ve been a mother on social assistance before my days of escorting and I received nothing more than enough to pay my rent. No money for food or utilities etc, not to mention clothing for my child and me.
At one point my child’s school was providing me food for my girl. Lad before you get upset please take a min to think about the mothers who are in desperate need of this type of action.

I hope for a great turnout

I do and I applaud any charity that operates on willingly given donations. I give a lot of money to charitable causes each year ( which may surprise some) which is my money freely given to charities with transparent operations.
There are many unique and desrving situations, of that I have no doubt, however the blatant political statement in the original post works to turn off more people than it attracts. The reality of life is that those with the most discretionary income than can be directed to charitable purposes are those most likely to be offended by the overt political and accusotory statements made. A lot of the meaningful message in the original post could have been delivered without the " in your face" style used. That offends me as does the standard bromide of the left that no matter what the problem it can always be solved by throwing more taxpayer money at it.
 

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I don't even see the logic of calling this a Public Service Announcement. It seems like something that should be in either the politics forum or the lobby.
 

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I do and I applaud any charity that operates on willingly given donations. I give a lot of money to charitable causes each year ( which may surprise some) which is my money freely given to charities with transparent operations.
There are many unique and desrving situations, of that I have no doubt, however the blatant political statement in the original post works to turn off more people than it attracts. The reality of life is that those with the most discretionary income than can be directed to charitable purposes are those most likely to be offended by the overt political and accusotory statements made. A lot of the meaningful message in the original post could have been delivered without the " in your face" style used. That offends me as does the standard bromide of the left that no matter what the problem it can always be solved by throwing more taxpayer money at it.

1st.. welfare needs to be fixed instead of taking every extra penny from working mothers they should reward them for even getting work. By maybe giving them a larger take on their pay*less deductions* to get them wanting to be off assistance make them feel like they are working towards a life with out your precious tax dollars. *Note all income including income tax and GST is deducted from the welfare cheque*

2nd. Childcare costs are outrageous for a good childcare provider. What mom wants to be at work wondering if their child is safe & being looked after properly. *Note welfare does not pay full child care cost a portion is paid by the working mom*

3rd.. charitable places e.g. food banks clothing depots etc do not have the funds to provide to all families on welfare. Welfare is supposed to give information on places single moms can go for help but in most cases the worker doesn’t offer the info.

4th.. CAS an agency open to help the children in most cases I’ve seen do not help to keep these families together. They look down on these moms treat them as low class members of society and take their children in to collect a pay cheque from the gov. so not only are your tax dollars going to welfare they are paying for foster parents to look after children taken away from their moms. So instead wouldn't it be much better to have the families together instead of paying two agencies to support low-income families.
 

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I dont know if the system is differnt where you are.
Welfare does take 1/2 of the child tax each month. But they only raised so the monnies were not coming from the welfare funds.

IF you get a larger sum all at once. like a big cheque for child tax over certain amout like 1200 they will not take the money but they will not provide a cheque for one month.

Long ago welfare used to pay 1200 a month or more and child tax 35 per child a month. so instead now they give you less for welfare more for child tax.

Welfare has incentives so the first 200.00 of your cheque you keep and then they do a deduction. I heard they have a new incentive program out there now aswell. 10% then 20% and 40% deductions off cheques to help you do it on your own and after 6 weeks they try to ween people off assistance if it is possible. Welfare also will pay transportation and give money for work start upand up front child care costs untill subsidy is available.

Child care well it can be paid for with out welfare and my girlfriend makes 14.10 an hour and Child subsidy pays all her child care STILL. She reports her income every month to them. She has never had to pay a dime. She is NOT on welfare at all.

If a person is in real need for food there are always churches and comunity centers that offer help for food and clothing transportation and if they need it they can always call and ask there workers.
remember people only tell there side of the truth. There is always another side there not telling. one is that there life is only that bad cause they like it! Everyone can make a change in there life but they need to try.
Also CAS only takes kids after they have tried to help and if you do not do what they ask they do take them away.
 
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Why should anyone be paying anything for a mother's kid's daycare? If you can't afford children don't have them. CAS only take children who are not being looked after properly. So if CAS come a knocking guess what mom ? You are not able to parent you're children in an acceptable manner. Thank god for CAS someone has to save these children!

.........and why the hell should I pay for some woman's kids, just because she couldn't keep her legs together, take a pill, use a condom, or at the very least get along well enough with the guy on top of her that they could raise the kid together? If a woman can't afford to raise her kid, she shouldn't be allowed to keep him or her. I sure as hell don't want to work my ass off all week long to subsidize someone else's irresponsibility. Welfare should not be an expectation, it should be a means of ultimate last resort. It is a bandaid solution - we need to fix the larger problems in our society (notably the lack of personal responsibility and the expectation that the nanny state will pay for everything we need).
 

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Hi, I'm one of the women that have joined this group. I lost my son to Children's Aid Society 3 years ago. My ex husband found out that I was stripping to make ends meet and he called Children's Aid Society. CAS did an investigation, didn't find any abuse, but they didn't think that my "lifestyle" (or my profession), was condusive to raising a child-- especially a disabled child. They took my child that night, and I immediatley stopped dancing, lost my apartment (could no longer afford the rent as the only job I could find was a minimum waged job at a retail store). I had to move into a shelter, I quit smoking pot and drinking (even though CAS never asked), and eventually I got a job working in Community Services (where I am now). Well, even me being a social worker myself wasn't good enough for CAS, they kept bringing up, "What if she goes back to dancing?" During my trial they used newspaper clips of me speaking out about sex worker rights as evidence that I would go back into sex work. In there eyes I wasn't a mother but just a "ho".My son went up for adoption at the age of 7, the last thing he ever said to me was "mommy, why don't you want me?" NO mother should have to hear those words. It's time that the CAS stop apprehending children from sex workers.
We are not incable of looking after a child, we don't take our children to work with us, they are at home with their baby sitter.
I'm really hoping that this rally will bring awareness to all the kids in care that are there for reasons other than abuse. I miss my son everyday.

BTW, I'm also working on a documentary about CAS and Sex Workers to be aired on the CBC.


Anyways, I hope people who support this event will come out!
 
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It's outrageous that they'd take your child away if the only problem was that you were a stripper. The job isn't illegal.
Mother's Day is the perfect time for you to make your views known.
 

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It wasn't just that I was a stripper, since I was in Children's Aid myself as a child they also knew that I used to prostitute. And even though I don't anymore the fact that I am quite vocal as a sex worker activist works against my favor.
 

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If you were a guy that was convicted of assaulting someone, they wouldn't take his kids away. Often, they are making moral judgements without looking at if the child is okay.
 

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Svend said:
If you were a guy that was convicted of assaulting someone, they wouldn't take his kids away. Often, they are making moral judgements without looking at if the child is okay.
i once witnessed a young mother leave her 3 year old child in a restaurant for 4 hours alone while she went to the bar with her friend. the little girl was going from table to table begging for food i called the CAS on her. when they showed up 2 hours later the woman had already picked up her little girl and had gone home. someone told them where she lived all they did was watch her for a few months she didn't have her child taken away

the system is so screwed up it isn't funny

in another case a child was taken away because the mother couldn't afford to pay her hydro she wasn't getting enough welfare to cover anything but her rent for a bach apt and a bit of food.:rolleyes:

we can send thousands of dollars to other countries to help poverty but we can't look after our own WTF
 

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As far as I'm concerned, if you can't afford to take proper care of your kids, you forfeit the right to motherhood.
 

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Misanthrope said:
As far as I'm concerned, if you can't afford to take proper care of your kids, you forfeit the right to motherhood.

Actually, most sex workers CAN afford there kids.
 

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mcmilky said:
Hi, I'm one of the women that have joined this group. I lost my son to Children's Aid Society 3 years ago. My ex husband found out that I was stripping to make ends meet and he called Children's Aid Society. CAS did an investigation, didn't find any abuse, but they didn't think that my "lifestyle" (or my profession), was condusive to raising a child. They took my child that night
While I don't have anything nice to say about CAS, I don't believe the above to be true. They don't take your children away because the mother is a stripper or a pro. That would be against the law and clearly prejudicial.
It doesn't even make sense. If CAS was to take children away from mothers on the sole basis that they are strippers or sex workers, they would get a better take by just staking out the many local strip clubs. So if what you are saying was true none of US should be ALLOWED to raise our own children simply because we are in the sex trade? cause why should you be the only one to have your child taken because you were a stripper?

I had a run in with CAS and it wasn't pretty. They were fully aware of my occupation but they never once tried to use that against me. They have lawyers too. I am pretty sure they know that it's legal. Their only concern is whether you conduct business from your home where your child is.

CAS has lots of power, they can be handled but only one way: through A REALLY GOOD LAWYER. Also CAS has a pretty bad reputation and are being sued by many people in Ontario, mainly for their negligence in protecting the real abused children. Meantime they tie up their funds wasting time taking children away from good homes.

I don't know what your plans are but if you are not an abusive parent they have no reason to hold your child or give it up for adoption. (why didn't the father take him?) I would fight them! You can pm for that really good lawyers name if you are in the Toronto area and are interested in getting your child back. All the best.
 

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I am commenting only as an observer since I have never had any dealings with that agency.

I find it strange that these people ( CAS) can seemingly disrupt what little stability may be left in some girls life and make an issue of it, yet , at the same time be the blinders on fools that let that little boy go to his abusive grandparents so they could beat and starve him to death. They all keep their jobs though.

Meethinks some people really need a kick in the head.
 
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