Survivor Voting Question...

Keebler Elf

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Do unrevealed votes during tribal council count in the tie-breaking tallies of who has had more votes cast against them?

If it's true that the show producers manipulate the order that the votes are drawn from the basket when Jeff Probst reads them, then it would seem unfair for undrawn votes not to count. There's no way for the players to accurately keep track of how many votes have been cast against them if they don't get to see each and every vote cast.

Anyone know the answer?
 
Keebler Elf said:
Do unrevealed votes during tribal council count in the tie-breaking tallies of who has had more votes cast against them


Anyone know the answer?

They show how everyone voted at the end of each show. So they can't manipulate the votes.
 
True, but that's for the audience and not for the players. The players wouldn't know if they received a vote or not...
 
Keebler Elf said:
True, but that's for the audience and not for the players. The players wouldn't know if they received a vote or not...

True, but the audience will know, the players will eventually know and it will all come out in the wash at some point. Therefore, there is no way there is any cheating.
 
Its not cheating, but his original point is valid. During a tie-breaker, the person with the most votes against him loses. But the other person may have had 2 or 3 votes against him that weren't counted, publically and during the game, as they were left in the basket during previous votes, likely because they weren't significant votes at the time, weren't required, or simply did not contribute to the drama of the earlier vote. So, I think its a bit of a loophole in the game.

The only out would be if, when counting votes during a tie breaker, the producers used ALL the votes, not just the ones shown to the players. But I don't think they do, and I doubt it's ever come up, anyhow.
 
Keebler Elf said:
True, but that's for the audience and not for the players. The players wouldn't know if they received a vote or not...

In Season 1, they did reveal during the show that Kelly did not get ANY votes except when she was booted out.

I'm pretty sure they have revealed what the votes were when there was a tie vote and it came down to past voting histories to determine who got the boot.

The question is whether the final vote is the only place where all the votes are revealed or do the players find out from the producers later on during the game.

I don't watch survivor that closely but I'm sure therr is a die hard watcher out there who can definetely state otherwise.
 
who reall gives a f#ck about it... network t.v. blows...just like f.m. radio...
 
elmufdvr said:
who reall gives a f#ck about it... network t.v. blows...just like f.m. radio...

Well that really contributes to the conversation. Well done you troll :(
 
CapitalGuy said:
Its not cheating, but his original point is valid. During a tie-breaker, the person with the most votes against him loses.

I haven't seen this rule used since the first two seasons. Now during a tie breaker the two tribemates have to compete on building a fire the fastest.

There really isn't a reason why they should show the remaining votes.
 
mmm_go said:
Survivor is fully filmed in an LA studio with actors. There is a script so everyone already knows what they suppose to do and when. If they looked surprised it's cuz its in the script. Even next week when someone cuts their hand open, it's in the script.

The next one will be "Survivor The Moon". They still have the set from when they filmed the moon landings.