Survivor Bullshit

Keebler Elf

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I just watched Thur's episode of Survivor and it was the most blatant example of Probst influencing the final decision that I've EVER seen on any of the Survivor seasons. He single-handedly convinced Janu to quit the game, just to keep Stefanie in the game b/c that's the story the producers want to see. It was disgusting to see how he jury-mandered what was supposed to be a vote (probably against Stefanie) into getting Janu to give up. Truly disgusting.

That episode really left a bad taste in my mouth, to the point that it might have been the moment Survivor jumped the shark (at least for me).
 

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Didn't see it that way

I think Janu wanted out...period. I don't think she was coerced into quitting. And, the show hasn't jumped the shark for me.... still love it.
 

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I was pissed of this episode too. The remaining group wanted Stephanie out because she was a threat to the game situation. Now because Jeff interfered with the voting process, the game may have changed for some individuals. But the whole point was the remaining survivors should have decided their own fate.
If you want an example, when Jeff Wilson injured his foot and told his tribe mates that he couldn't continue and to vote his off. Jeff Probost didn't encourage him to leave. The tribe was allowed to take a vote.
 

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Why don't you write in to them. Tell them how angry you are with them, etc...Use really strong language. Afterall, you are a viewer right? Demand your rights as a viewer and tell just how much better produced your version would have been. That'll teach'em.
 

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I think Janu wanted out anyway. If she wanted to stay she could have chosen not to quit.

Besides, Steph deserves to be there. I like Steph, so I'm happy Janu quit. Now if she can just win a few challenges and get rid of some of the other lugs she'll be fine. Go Steph, win the million.
 

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Keebler Elf said:
I just watched Thur's episode of Survivor and it was the most blatant example of Probst influencing the final decision that I've EVER seen on any of the Survivor seasons. He single-handedly convinced Janu to quit the game
I agree that Jeff Probst had his influence on the course of things that evening. Honestly I didn't mind that one bit , I'd rather see Steph , who wanted so much to stay in the game, remains than that other skinny chick who was totally and miserably detached from all.

That intervention from the executive side didn't bother me , it's good entertainment .
 

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revolver said:
I think Janu wanted out anyway. If she wanted to stay she could have chosen not to quit.

Besides, Steph deserves to be there. I like Steph, so I'm happy Janu quit. Now if she can just win a few challenges and get rid of some of the other lugs she'll be fine. Go Steph, win the million.
Plus, it is a "ratings games" first and foremost. Steph is "better ratings" .. There is also a lot of editing involved, so we never really see the entire story. I've found that the show is often edited so you believe that someone is going to be voted off but then there is a twist. So, when everything pointed to Steph being voted off, I was almost certain that she won't be .. ;)

I hope that Steph wins immunity next week.
 

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I know I'm cheering for Stephanie. Look at all the shit she went through. The preview for next week's show looks interesting with Stephanie trying to form an all female alliance. It'll be interesting to see if it really flies, especially since one of the girls loves one of the dudes.

As for Probst's involvement at Tribal Council. They did it cause they knew Janu wanted out and Stephanie would kill to have another chance to stay in. If she ever makes it to the Finals, you know Coby and Janu will vote for her.
 

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Keebler Elf said:
I just watched Thur's episode of Survivor and it was the most blatant example of Probst influencing the final decision that I've EVER seen on any of the Survivor seasons. He single-handedly convinced Janu to quit the game, just to keep Stefanie in the game b/c that's the story the producers want to see. It was disgusting to see how he jury-mandered what was supposed to be a vote (probably against Stefanie) into getting Janu to give up. Truly disgusting.

That episode really left a bad taste in my mouth, to the point that it might have been the moment Survivor jumped the shark (at least for me).

You had her in the pool, didn't you? ;)
 

Keebler Elf

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I totally agree that Janu wanted out and wouldn't have won. Heck, she might have been the next to go. But Probst's interference affected a lot more than Janu's chances of winning; it affected other players' game plans. The people who were going to vote Stef off were doing so b/c she was a threat and they wanted her gone sooner rather than later. Keeping deadweight (Janu) around is a valid strategy that has been used before in the game. If Janu wanted to quit, she could have come out and said so at any time prior to tribal council. The only reason she quit when she did was b/c Probst harranged her to the point of giving up b/c the show didn't want to lose Stef. Up until Janu, everyone who has quit in the Survivor series did so of their own accord without outside interference (remember the black guy who gave up? Probst scolded the guy for being such a wimp; he didn't encourage him to quit like he did with Janu).

Now from the previews, guess what? Stef tries to unite all the women against the guys next week, potentially changing the dynamics of the game altogether. And who do we have to thank for that? Not Stef. Not Janu. But Probst, who single-handedly changed the results of the game.

To be clear, I don't care who wins. I'd love to see Stef win just b/c of what she went through with her other tribe and her passion for the game. But I can't stand the fact that an outside observer influenced the results of the tribal council to the point that how people were going to vote didn't even matter. If Stef wins (which I don't think she will), all I'll remember is that Probst set it up for her to do so and she should split the cash with him, IMHO.

Make no mistake, Probst got Janu to quit not b/c her heart wasn't in the game; it was so that Stef wouldn't get voted off. And THAT, I have a REAL problem with...
 

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figjam4 said:
people actualy watch survivor?
Yes, so it seems.

All valid points keebler. But personally I would have lost interest totally if steph was voted out. So at least I have one more episode to watch.
 

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figjam4

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What rock have you been living under? LOL! :p

A different rock I guess. I tried watching it once but after ten minutes of this "staged reality" I turned it off. Now that is all there is on TV so I turned the box off as well. I missed hockey!
 

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I wish they would have given Tom the opportunity to pass off his ammunity to Stephanie. I thought that he was leaning towards doing so. He wasn't too fussy about Janu. And he believed Stephanie deserved to stay and play.

Amber
 

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Stephanie

I liked the bit that the other girl gave it up. She was a bone rack and not pleasing to look at. She had clearly given up. Stephanie has the fight in her and is more pleasing to the eyes.

Of course I am biased in this case, I would probably be outraged if it was in favour of someone I don't like. But the buzz line is outplay, outlast, outwit. Stephanie definately used her wits at that tribal counsel. I always hate it when someone is voted out who does not deserve to be voted out.
 

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I watched two episodes in the first season and never watched again. Its all contrived, scripted, and phony as hell. some of the competitions are genuine to keep it looking real, but the voting and other decisions and alliances are all decided in the board room.
 

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Sheik said:
Survivor jumped the shark on the 2nd installment.... Never watched it beyond that.
I guess I've been under a rock too. What does jumping a shark mean? I'm trying to visualize it. I think I'd jump if a shark came my way but other than that it seems like a retarded phrase. Do you jump on the shark, over the shark, what? :confused:
 
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