Ceiling Cat, I remember when some people were bashing you for using big red fonts and blaming you for their ringleader Rubemeister's departure. That just goes to show how silly some people are on this Board. I could care less whether someone uses red, blue, purple or any other colour font.
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Just to be clear, the majority of the Board are NOT jerks. Obviously, too many to name them all, but I can give you 3-4 examples. OldJones and I never agree on anything but he articulates his views in a calm rational manner. Fuji and I often disagree but he sticks to the substance of the issue although he does get a bit edgy at times. RandyAndy and I have had a number of heated disagreements over the years but it never got personal nor nasty. Aardie summed it up best when he said that: "One can disagree without being disagreeable."
I had no problem with your post #10. However, I did find post #16 by the OTHER guy (not you) offensive and inappropriate, even though it wasn't directed at me. Of course, all the jerks love post #16 because they are jerks.
Do grown men actually write like this? There must be a teenager that has access to the troll's computer.
So, do you agree or disagree with post #16? Yes or no?Do grown men actually write like this? There must be a teenager that has access to the troll's computer.
Also, do you have a problem with post #10? Yes or no.
So, do you agree or disagree with post #16? Yes or no?
Also, do you have a problem with post #10? Yes or no.
Well ... I agree with post #16 and I'm not a jerk. I'm a wonderfully warm-hearted, generous individual who works for a charity for Canadians with disabilities, donates money to Doctors without Borders, just adopted a puppy from the pound and supports a family of five.
Narg, I have no quarrel with you. We disagree about post #16 (and it wasn't directed at me anyway) but so be it. You never bothered me in the past and I never bothered you and I would like it to stay that way. Peace.Well ... I agree with post #16 and I'm not a jerk. I'm a wonderfully warm-hearted, generous individual who works for a charity for Canadians with disabilities, donates money to Doctors without Borders, just adopted a puppy from the pound and supports a family of five.
Narg, I have no quarrel with you. We disagree about post #16 (and it wasn't directed at me anyway) but so be it. You never bothered me in the past and I never bothered you and I would like it to stay that way. Peace.
No worries (to use a term from another recent thread).
Actually there is no rule on trolling.
in your trolling, you are in the letter of the law.
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Apparently, calling Toughb a troll and a "pain in the fucking ass" also gets you banned.
I agree with post #10 that you are a troll and are within the letter of the law. However you are annoying to many members of the board and still just a troll.
Post # 16 refers to someone having called toughb a troll and a "pain in the fucking ass"
I don't consider him either, and it wasn't the troll part that got the poster banned, now was it?
I tend not to post anymore, for a variety of reasons, but I will add my shiny nickel ($0.02 rounded up)
The problem with the rise in number, proliferation of posts and seeming protection of posters like those being questioned in this thread is that it has a deleterious effect on the overall board. The more that trolls, spammers and add-nothings to the purpose of this board (seeing SPs) take over TERB with their inane drivel, the more devalued the board becomes.
Positive contributors can't be bothered with the constant bombardment from those who, quite frankly, bring little-to-nothing to the table and leave, which in turn, leaves TERB a little worse each time it happens. We've seen the rise of several other competing boards in the past few years; these boards compete for relevancy in the form of good reviewers, advertising dollars, SP/agency participation, and bottom line, traffic.
By allowing the annoying, the instigators, the add-nothing-of-real-value to have the run of the place, while at the same time banning or driving away those who try to make this odd little "hobby" a more enjoyable, safe and worthwhile place, the moderators/board owner have in effect allowed the inmates to run the asylum. And we all know how that story usually ends...
Maybe Fred and the mods are all well aware of this. Maybe it doesn't affect the bottom line. Maybe they don't care. But I will say that the level of discourse - especially in the review sections (which, perhaps outside of advertisers, i thought was the point of this board) - has been greatly diminished from when I first descended down this rabbit hole... Making the Lounge a near-unbearable experience seems like the final nail in the coffin.
But then again, what do I know?
The problem with the rise in number, proliferation of posts and seeming protection of posters like those being questioned in this thread is that it has a deleterious effect on the overall board. The more that trolls, spammers and add-nothings to the purpose of this board (seeing SPs) take over TERB with their inane drivel, the more devalued the board becomes.
Positive contributors can't be bothered with the constant bombardment from those who, quite frankly, bring little-to-nothing to the table and leave, which in turn, leaves TERB a little worse each time it happens. We've seen the rise of several other competing boards in the past few years; these boards compete for relevancy in the form of good reviewers, advertising dollars, SP/agency participation, and bottom line, traffic.
By allowing the annoying, the instigators, the add-nothing-of-real-value to have the run of the place, while at the same time banning or driving away those who try to make this odd little "hobby" a more enjoyable, safe and worthwhile place, the moderators/board owner have in effect allowed the inmates to run the asylum. And we all know how that story usually ends...
Maybe Fred and the mods are all well aware of this. Maybe it doesn't affect the bottom line. Maybe they don't care. But I will say that the level of discourse - especially in the review sections (which, perhaps outside of advertisers, i thought was the point of this board) - has been greatly diminished from when I first descended down this rabbit hole... Making the Lounge a near-unbearable experience seems like the final nail in the coffin.
But then again, what do I know?
I tend not to post anymore, for a variety of reasons, but I will add my shiny nickel ($0.02 rounded up)
The problem with the rise in number, proliferation of posts and seeming protection of posters like those being questioned in this thread is that it has a deleterious effect on the overall board. The more that trolls, spammers and add-nothings to the purpose of this board (seeing SPs) take over TERB with their inane drivel, the more devalued the board becomes.
Positive contributors can't be bothered with the constant bombardment from those who, quite frankly, bring little-to-nothing to the table and leave, which in turn, leaves TERB a little worse each time it happens. We've seen the rise of several other competing boards in the past few years; these boards compete for relevancy in the form of good reviewers, advertising dollars, SP/agency participation, and bottom line, traffic.
By allowing the annoying, the instigators, the add-nothing-of-real-value to have the run of the place, while at the same time banning or driving away those who try to make this odd little "hobby" a more enjoyable, safe and worthwhile place, the moderators/board owner have in effect allowed the inmates to run the asylum. And we all know how that story usually ends...
Maybe Fred and the mods are all well aware of this. Maybe it doesn't affect the bottom line. Maybe they don't care. But I will say that the level of discourse - especially in the review sections (which, perhaps outside of advertisers, i thought was the point of this board) - has been greatly diminished from when I first descended down this rabbit hole... Making the Lounge a near-unbearable experience seems like the final nail in the coffin.
But then again, what do I know?
Apparently quite a lot. Well said.
What a great post Captain
The interesting thing is that it seems like some of the most egregious offenders and the ones who are contributing to the nonsense that is cluttering up the board, are not hobbyists. At all. Since this is a private, for-profit board,it would stand to reason that if anyone would receive preferential treatment or would have their posting habits indulged, no matter how asinine, it would those who are frequent hobbyists and who spend a great deal of money in this hobby. Instead you have people who don't contribute at all to the primary purpose of the board are coddled and left to spread their junk over the board. I haven't any mathematical analysis, but I do think it's pretty clear over the last few years that the amount of reviews have died down rapidly. Now, I'm not blaming all this on the idiot posters in the lounge, as Captain said, there are a proliferation of other boards which are dividing the market, and I'm sure there are other factors involved, for example perhaps the economic situation has led to a downturn in the sex industry as a whole. But I do believe there's a direct correlation in a sense between the explosion of topics in lounge, and of members joining who do not review, have no interest in reviewing, and this downturn. If this was a public board, it would be one thing. Or if it was more of a general 'meetup' kind of board. But the people who run this board do so for a profit, and I'm surprised that they allow posters who do not add value, and might even cause value to decline, to post willy-nilly.
Now, to be fair, obviously since the board is still active, and there's still plenty of advertisers, their profits must be doing okay, and I think enacting a policy like posting 5 reviews before you can post elsewhere would be foolhardy and would lead to many other problems. However, Captain does bring up a good point. The other 'blue' board, if I recall, was founded by many of the major prolific reviewers on here. Now, I've spoken out many times against shillers, and I believe that at least some of those founding members were horrible offenders of that, but I do find myself checking that board more often these days because there's more reviews. Which I don't want to do, since I do think that TERB is better at weeding out fake reviews and shillers than that blue board is. Another part of it, is that it does seem like the majority of reviews that are posted here are of the Asian incall places or of BP escorts, which is not my thing, but at least those are reviews that other people find useful
Again, all this is kinda pointless analysis, since unless the profits are really down, the board is not going to change. I'm an extremely small fish in a big hobbying pond, and I have essentially no influence in this arena, but I did find Captain's post interesting, and I do think it displays some fault lines beneath the surface
The interesting thing is that it seems like some of the most egregious offenders and the ones who are contributing to the nonsense that is cluttering up the board, are not hobbyists. At all. Since this is a private, for-profit board,it would stand to reason that if anyone would receive preferential treatment or would have their posting habits indulged, no matter how asinine, it would those who are frequent hobbyists and who spend a great deal of money in this hobby. Instead you have people who don't contribute at all to the primary purpose of the board are coddled and left to spread their junk over the board. I haven't any mathematical analysis, but I do think it's pretty clear over the last few years that the amount of reviews have died down rapidly. Now, I'm not blaming all this on the idiot posters in the lounge, as Captain said, there are a proliferation of other boards which are dividing the market, and I'm sure there are other factors involved, for example perhaps the economic situation has led to a downturn in the sex industry as a whole. But I do believe there's a direct correlation in a sense between the explosion of topics in lounge, and of members joining who do not review, have no interest in reviewing, and this downturn. If this was a public board, it would be one thing. Or if it was more of a general 'meetup' kind of board. But the people who run this board do so for a profit, and I'm surprised that they allow posters who do not add value, and might even cause value to decline, to post willy-nilly.
Now, to be fair, obviously since the board is still active, and there's still plenty of advertisers, their profits must be doing okay, and I think enacting a policy like posting 5 reviews before you can post elsewhere would be foolhardy and would lead to many other problems. However, Captain does bring up a good point. The other 'blue' board, if I recall, was founded by many of the major prolific reviewers on here. Now, I've spoken out many times against shillers, and I believe that at least some of those founding members were horrible offenders of that, but I do find myself checking that board more often these days because there's more reviews. Which I don't want to do, since I do think that TERB is better at weeding out fake reviews and shillers than that blue board is. Another part of it, is that it does seem like the majority of reviews that are posted here are of the Asian incall places or of BP escorts, which is not my thing, but at least those are reviews that other people find useful
Again, all this is kinda pointless analysis, since unless the profits are really down, the board is not going to change. I'm an extremely small fish in a big hobbying pond, and I have essentially no influence in this arena, but I did find Captain's post interesting, and I do think it displays some fault lines beneath the surface
If "toughb"'s video post (the one with the dancer in a bra that turned around a was a boy) got that kind of a response, then maybe the problem is that this board is just really easily trolled.
I mean, really, what was so offensive about that where Terb member's homophobia got them so freaked out about that? Are you guys old enough to have watched Stripes? First half was one of the greatest movies ever, right? Remember how Psycho introduced himself, by being scared of the very idea that some homo would touch him?
Congratulations. You're Psycho. Same response applies. Lighten up, Francis.
IF "toughb" is a troll, and I'm not opining one way or the other, then Terb is setting itself up for trolls by being very troll-able. Lighten up a bit and the trolls go away. Stop taking yourself and your heterosexuality so seriously. Nobody is trying to take it away. Nobody is trying to make you suck on a penis. We're all grown-ups here, we can all laugh and have a good time.
I mean, really, what was so offensive about that where Terb member's homophobia got them so freaked out about that? Are you guys old enough to have watched Stripes? First half was one of the greatest movies ever, right? Remember how Psycho introduced himself, by being scared of the very idea that some homo would touch him?
Congratulations. You're Psycho. Same response applies. Lighten up, Francis.
IF "toughb" is a troll, and I'm not opining one way or the other, then Terb is setting itself up for trolls by being very troll-able. Lighten up a bit and the trolls go away. Stop taking yourself and your heterosexuality so seriously. Nobody is trying to take it away. Nobody is trying to make you suck on a penis. We're all grown-ups here, we can all laugh and have a good time.
The most vicious bombardments were between hobbyist and hobbyist in the review forums. The most vicious flame wars, they got very personal and very nasty, were the ones between Captain Fantastic and Demien2k5 about three years ago and Demien hasn't posted a review since. Then there was FunnyFace who got bashed by other hobbyists so badly 2-3 years ago that he also hasn't posted a review since. Just two examples. No wonder reviews are down.Positive contributors can't be bothered with the constant bombardment from those who, quite frankly, bring little-to-nothing to the table and leave,
So, do you agree or disagree with post #16? Yes or no?
Also, do you have a problem with post #10? Yes or no.
Post 16 simply says if you call toughb those things you may be banned. What's the issue with that ?
Ancient history. Narg and I have already made peace. Case closed. Let's move on.Post 16 simply says if you call toughb those things you may be banned. What's the issue with that ?
The most vicious bombardments were between hobbyist and hobbyist in the review forums. The most vicious flame wars, they got very personal and very nasty, were the ones between Captain Fantastic and Demien2k5 about three years ago and Demien hasn't posted a review since. Then there was FunnyFace who got bashed by other hobbyists so badly 2-3 years ago that he also hasn't posted a review since. Just two examples. No wonder reviews are down.
Actually, and I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rock does have a decent point. There's been quite a few flame wars in the incall/outcall sections that have turned nasty and personal. Unfortunately I've been involved in a few of them. There's no question that many previously prolific reviewers were fed up with every review of theirs been labelled a 'shill' and either migrated to another board or stopped reviewing. I've actually received more help in terms of recommendations in PM recently than on this forum. In some ways, this might be more detrimental, since flame wars on the review sections directly impact reviewers and cause them to stop reviewing.
However, I do find strange, that it seems that the biggest flame wars now and the 'pissing' matches occur in the Lounge or other sections rather than the review sections. Which suggests, as others have pointed out, that activity in those forums is down.
Essentially, and again I do refer to my earlier post, which says that profits for this board in terms of advertiser money must still be good, but the danger of having a board such as this be populated by non-reviewing members is that it causes the primary audience of the board, who come here for a very specific purpose to go elsewhere for information and reviews. If the advertisers feel that they do not have the necessary eyeballs to justify their fees, they will go to another board which provides a greater return on investment.
I guess the larger point is that the greater number of people who sign up, and only post in the Lounge, who clutter it up with threads and useless comments, and then the fact that older members, who may be registered on this board for the original reason, get banned for complaining about this clutter, can lead to this board becoming less valuable to the hobbyist, and less of a return on investment for the advertisers
It's been a tough couple of days.
You should be taken out behind the barn and shot, fuuuuuuuuny.
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