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lazysausage

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What would be a considerate sum for your sugar babies? Per month, if any of you ever did consider them and what kind of investment did you really believe it to be? Personally my wealth will never deteriorate and their beauty will.
 

hansen24

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It all depends on your budget and how much you value this said sugar babe. Is she worth $3-5000 a month or do you plan on nickel and diming her?
Truth be told in my experience the sb/sd arrangement is not worth my time and gets complicated, your better off staying in the hobby.
Another thing, your last statement is very true as far as their beauty fading and your money remaining in the upswing. Here's the thing their beauty/body is what you want access to and if you could you would be able to access it for FREE which I'm guessing isn't the case. Whatever you do its best to be fair and make sure both of you are getting what you want.
 

twir

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Not worth it and potential headache down the road.

it is better to diversify just like for stocks
 

Celticman

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I have a low key arrangement with a retired SP. She had some bad SP experiences including, amongst other things, being outed (and family found out). She never wants to go back to escorting. We seemed to enjoy each other’s company when she was in the business so we have had an arrangement for about a year now. She comes to my home once a week (very occasionally twice) for a 1-2 hour visit. This is great from a time perspective. There is no travel time for me as I see her when I am working from home.

She works full time and is on a very tight budget. Whilst I only pay her 600 a month, her request, this amount makes a difference in her life. She also has the use of one of my vehicles for 2-3 days a week and when she is stuck I babysit her young child for her. Another benefit for her is I co-signed her rental condo lease and I am helping her to establish a credit rating. She loves the theatre so whenever I need a theatre date she loves the night out to one of her favourite things. I have no idea how to quantify the non $$ benefits that she derives, but her view is that they are worth a lot more than the 600 in cash to her.
 

lazysausage

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I have a low key arrangement with a retired SP. She had some bad SP experiences including, amongst other things, being outed (and family found out). She never wants to go back to escorting. We seemed to enjoy each other’s company when she was in the business so we have had an arrangement for about a year now. She comes to my home once a week (very occasionally twice) for a 1-2 hour visit. This is great from a time perspective. There is no travel time for me as I see her when I am working from home.

She works full time and is on a very tight budget. Whilst I only pay her 600 a month, her request, this amount makes a difference in her life. She also has the use of one of my vehicles for 2-3 days a week and when she is stuck I babysit her young child for her. Another benefit for her is I co-signed her rental condo lease and I am helping her to establish a credit rating. She loves the theatre so whenever I need a theatre date she loves the night out to one of her favourite things. I have no idea how to quantify the non $$ benefits that she derives, but her view is that they are worth a lot more than the 600 in cash to her.
Are you the only one she sees though? Does she want to marry you?
 

Celticman

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Wow you are in deep my friend. There is no way I would even entertain the idea of things you've done. I prefer just simple straight up cash no strings attached and there is no way of it interfering with real life. I don't really have the time for any relationships this deep. I did consider something like this at one point but it would have to be with someone completely reasonable, mature, and who does it for me in every way.
That is "in deep" for you, but not for me and my life. The only exposure that I have is co-signing a lease, which is nothing to me.
 
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It really depends on the SB! If you are looking for pay for play then stick with escorts; SB's want a genuine connection. There are plenty of girls out there who want the $3-5K/mth for a set number of playdates, they are actually escorts without admitting it to themselves. Others are simply looking for a mentor, a travel eagle, an activity companion or an advisor with a much smaller financial commitment. I have a SD that I have been seeing for about 5 years. He has open access to my life, reviews my financials regularly for me, has helped out on 2 occasions with loans for unexpected condo expenses, offers insight into my investments, gives me pearls of wisdom that are invaluable when I have to make a major life decision. He's a member of my inner circle and knows my family and friends. I'm at a point in my life where his financial contributions are not important to my financial viability but are certainly still appreciated. What I value most is his honest insight and guidance. He's happily married and that works for both of us. He started out as a client and wasn't looking for SB, it evolved over time and seems to be an arrangement that we both enjoy.

Figure out exactly what you want from the experience, exactly what you have to offer and then go looking. Just remember that communication is key to ensuring you both are on the same page...

cat
 

BlueLaser

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What would be a considerate sum for your sugar babies? Per month, if any of you ever did consider them and what kind of investment did you really believe it to be? Personally my wealth will never deteriorate and their beauty will.
I see absolutely no value in this type of arrangement myself. What do YOU get out of it? Most sudar daddies I ever met were guys who frowned on prostitution or who couldn't risk being outed, but if you're here I assume neither one affects you. Why pay a large monthly fee for something you can get for small hourly payments and enjoy variety? It's a personal thing, I don't actually expect or want an answer from you. I know for me, I would derive absolutely no value from this relationship beyond what I can get otherwise.
 

BlueLaser

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It really depends on the SB! If you are looking for pay for play then stick with escorts; SB's want a genuine connection. There are plenty of girls out there who want the $3-5K/mth for a set number of playdates, they are actually escorts without admitting it to themselves. Others are simply looking for a mentor, a travel eagle, an activity companion or an advisor with a much smaller financial commitment. I have a SD that I have been seeing for about 5 years. He has open access to my life, reviews my financials regularly for me, has helped out on 2 occasions with loans for unexpected condo expenses, offers insight into my investments, gives me pearls of wisdom that are invaluable when I have to make a major life decision. He's a member of my inner circle and knows my family and friends. I'm at a point in my life where his financial contributions are not important to my financial viability but are certainly still appreciated. What I value most is his honest insight and guidance. He's happily married and that works for both of us. He started out as a client and wasn't looking for SB, it evolved over time and seems to be an arrangement that we both enjoy.

Figure out exactly what you want from the experience, exactly what you have to offer and then go looking. Just remember that communication is key to ensuring you both are on the same page...

cat
I don't see what you described as a sugar daddy. Sounds to me like you just have a good friend.
 

lazysausage

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So its just a price to pay for exclusivity, meaning you could have it with any other civilian, yet you pay 30-50k a year
 
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I have a low key arrangement with a retired SP. She had some bad SP experiences including, amongst other things, being outed (and family found out). She never wants to go back to escorting. We seemed to enjoy each other’s company when she was in the business so we have had an arrangement for about a year now. She comes to my home once a week (very occasionally twice) for a 1-2 hour visit. This is great from a time perspective. There is no travel time for me as I see her when I am working from home.

She works full time and is on a very tight budget. Whilst I only pay her 600 a month, her request, this amount makes a difference in her life. She also has the use of one of my vehicles for 2-3 days a week and when she is stuck I babysit her young child for her. Another benefit for her is I co-signed her rental condo lease and I am helping her to establish a credit rating. She loves the theatre so whenever I need a theatre date she loves the night out to one of her favourite things. I have no idea how to quantify the non $$ benefits that she derives, but her view is that they are worth a lot more than the 600 in cash to her.
Lucky "bastard". I envy you. Good for both of you. True, for most people on tight budgets, a little extra can make a significant difference to their lives. Cheers.
 
What would be a considerate sum for your sugar babies? Per month, if any of you ever did consider them and what kind of investment did you really believe it to be? Personally my wealth will never deteriorate and their beauty will.
It depends on what you are looking for. I had a SD arrangement about 8 years ago. I used to pay $2000 a month and there were no set number of dates. She was a student in University and since we both had some flexibility, it worked out well for about 2 years. We'd see each other , sometimes 2 or 3 times in a week but then we could have a week where we couldn't connect. It wasn't alwasy about sex but to be honest, we rarily planned a sex date. It just happened just as it could in a GF/BF relationship. We just went with the flow. We were both happy with the frequency as we truly enjoyed each other's company. That's the key...you have to find a girl that you ca connect with on some level. Otherwise, I think you will find the dates to be less and less frequent but the money stays the same.

For us, it went very well. We've even taken a few trips to Ottawa for several days at a time and even took one to Colorado for a business trip that I extended just to spend more time with her. Thing is, it was an arrangement and her situation changed and we had to move on. We had kept in touch until about a year ago when she went oversees and we somewhat drifted apart. I can still reach her if needed.

Would I enter is such an arrangement again. Not sure. I have thought of it recently but I would not just jump into it like the first time. I think I was lucky to find the one I did.
 

BlueLaser

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I would not co-sign my life away.
Co-signing a lease isn't a big deal if the value of the lease is a drop in the bucket. It's all about wealth.

If you make $120k/yr and a girl asks you to co-sign her lease for $2000/month, that's a hell of a commitment. If you make $1.2M/yr, however, what do you care?
 

thirdcup

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Quote Originally Posted by Catherine St.Claire View Post
It really depends on the SB! If you are looking for pay for play then stick with escorts; SB's want a genuine connection. There are plenty of girls out there who want the $3-5K/mth for a set number of playdates, they are actually escorts without admitting it to themselves. Others are simply looking for a mentor, a travel eagle, an activity companion or an advisor with a much smaller financial commitment. I have a SD that I have been seeing for about 5 years. He has open access to my life, reviews my financials regularly for me, has helped out on 2 occasions with loans for unexpected condo expenses, offers insight into my investments, gives me pearls of wisdom that are invaluable when I have to make a major life decision. He's a member of my inner circle and knows my family and friends. I'm at a point in my life where his financial contributions are not important to my financial viability but are certainly still appreciated. What I value most is his honest insight and guidance. He's happily married and that works for both of us. He started out as a client and wasn't looking for SB, it evolved over time and seems to be an arrangement that we both enjoy.

Figure out exactly what you want from the experience, exactly what you have to offer and then go looking. Just remember that communication is key to ensuring you both are on the same page...

cat
I don't see what you described as a sugar daddy. Sounds to me like you just have a good friend.
I disagree.

" I have a SD that I have been seeing for about 5 years. He has open access to my life, reviews my financials regularly for me, has helped out on 2 occasions with loans" Another acknowledgement was made about his financial contributions.
I think that one of key qualifiers of an SD is whether or not sex is part of the relationship, especially if Daddy is happily married. The other thing is loans. What were the terms of the loans? Were they really loans, or gifts? Were they repaid with interest? or with services rendered? If Daddy could have the same arrangement with his brother, his buddy or his mother in law, then I would agree that it's a good friendship. I don't think Daddy's wife would mind in that case. - except if her life was suffering because of his financial outlays.
 

BlueLaser

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Quote Originally Posted by Catherine St.Claire View Post" I have a SD that I have been seeing for about 5 years. He has open access to my life, reviews my financials regularly for me, has helped out on 2 occasions with loans" Another acknowledgement was made about his financial contributions.
I think that one of key qualifiers of an SD is whether or not sex is part of the relationship, especially if Daddy is happily married. The other thing is loans. What were the terms of the loans? Were they really loans, or gifts? Were they repaid with interest? or with services rendered? If Daddy could have the same arrangement with his brother, his buddy or his mother in law, then I would agree that it's a good friendship. I don't think Daddy's wife would mind in that case. - except if her life was suffering because of his financial outlays.
When she said loans, I assume she meant "loans". I've loaned money to friends before. Female friends. That I've slept with. I wasn't her sugar daddy.
 

lazysausage

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I'm young, but I have money. To be honest I saw it as a way to help her as well maintaining a good relationship, then i realized there is going to be a lot of women in this world that I will end up chasing, fucking, pleasuring
and I think to myself
life is good
 
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Actually my SD is an extraordinary friend! The loans were in fact legal loans with agreed terms and not taken out in trade. His monthly financial investment now varies depending on my needs but never exceeds our original agreement. I took a lot of time off during '11/'12 to be primary care provider when my SO was diagnosed with Stage 4 melanoma. Without my SD, I wouldn't have been able to do that. My SO passed a year ago and now I'm back on my feet, the envelop isn't a priority but his advice, guidance and companionship is. We have a standard "one month notice" if either of us should change our minds and I'm sure the day will come I don't fit into his life anymore as a SB but I will always consider him a very precious friend.

Sugar relationships can be amazing if both parties understand the etiquette, establish and respect boundaries, ensure they equally give for value received and have the maturity to realize what does and doesn't work for them. With the SD/SB dynamic there has to be real chemistry on both sides for it to work...

cat
 

Celticman

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Sugar relationships can be amazing if both parties understand the etiquette, establish and respect boundaries, ensure they equally give for value received and have the maturity to realize what does and doesn't work for them. With the SD/SB dynamic there has to be real chemistry on both sides for it to work...

cat
Precisely
 
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