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Okay, so in the other thread about Acura RDX vs Lexus RX, I realized one is girl car, the other is soccer mom car. Jk. I test drove Acura RDX, I didn't like how hard the suspension was for such an expensive car - Chevy Equinox felt more comfortable. Also, it lacked storage capacity - rear seats don't fold flat - and no remote starter. I didn't drive lexus yet, supposedly more comfortable than Lexus, but I just didn't like its look and interior styling.
All in all I realized I needed practical SUV capable of handling all weather conditions, and not some raised sports sedan pretending to be an SUV like Acura RDX.

So now I come to Subaru Outback or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Granted both are pretty safe, and good 4x4 drivetrain. I think Jeep has slight advantage in off roading. Good cargo capacity. Jeep is $10k more. From my extensive research, both have reliability issues since 2013, but Jeep TIPM recall has thus far been resolved, but Subaru's random acceleration / engine hesitation and oil burning / leaking problem has yet to be resolved.

I am slightly biased towards Jeep. but your input is appreciated.
 
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Have you considered the Range Rover Evoque?
 
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George The Curious said:
I test drove Acura RDX, I didn't like how hard the suspension was for such an expensive car - Chevy Equinox felt more comfortable. Also, it lacked storage capacity - rear seats don't fold flat - and no remote starter. I didn't drive lexus yet, supposedly more comfortable than Lexus, but I just didn't like its look and interior styling.
All in all I realized I needed practical SUV capable of handling all weather conditions, and not some raised sports sedan pretending to be an SUV like Acura RDX.
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RDX indeed has a 2-way remote starter in the Tech and Elite packages
The rear seats definitely fold flat.
The suspension has been criticised by the press and owners (like myself) for being too soft. Should be firmer to match it's engine and sporty image.
RDX has 2178 litres of space with the 2nd seats down. Outback has 2075 the Jeep has 1934.
The RDX has a 0-60 of 6.3-6.5 seconds which makes it in the top 2 quickest SUVs available under $45K. It's also one of the better brakers and handlers (I don't like the handling myself).
Acura markets the RDX as a crossover, not a SUV. So indeed it's fair to call it a raised sedan and I agree it's not a capable 4x4, but perfectly fine for southern Ontario's winter road conditions.

Please feel free to check online to confirm the above.

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Yes, both maintenance and insurance through the roof, and depreciates faster than Jeep.
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Interesting, my quote for insurance for the Evoque was $110/yr less than the RDX. I currently pay $1340/year for the RDX which isn't too bad considering my coverages and the high business KM I drive each year.
Evoque is actually one of the better cars for holding it's value: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10734551/The-best-and-worst-cars-for-depreciation.html http://www.edmunds.com/land-rover/range-rover-evoque/2014/cost-to-own/ http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/land-rover/range-rover-evoque/87346/3-range-rover-evoque
As for maintenance, I've talked to several owners and they do bitch about constant maintenance on this model.

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So now I come to Subaru Outback or Jeep Grand Cherokee. ........
I am slightly biased towards Jeep. but your input is appreciated.
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As I am also in the market, I've driven both in the last 2 weeks. Both are very good cars, both have received numerous awards this year. I've spoken to several owners of each and they only sing praises. I find the Jeep more "manly", offers more features, is faster but at a much higher price and is harder on gas. The Subaru offers everything I need (vs want) at a better price, lower insurance, lower TCO and handles better. I didn't like the drone of the CVT, but when you switch to one of the sport modes, the drone disappears and the car is quite spirited.

Currently I'm leaning towards the Audi SQ5 (fast and better AWD system than Subaru), but want to have a look at the MB GLA after xmas, although I think it's going to be too small.
 
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I own a 2012 Grand Cherokee and its the best SUV I ever owned.

My previous SUV's have been Jeep Cherokee, Nissan Pathfinder and Mazda CX7
 
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Go with the jeep you will not regret it. Just get the V-6 it has great gas mileage and get the air suspension .
 
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Go with the jeep you will not regret it. Just get the V-6 it has great gas mileage and get the air suspension .
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I think the Grands only come in V6 now dont they??

But yeah, the engine kicks in to 4 cylinder economy when you're coasting so it uses very little gas. Its an award winning engine called the Pentastar
 
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Here is my 2012 Grand cherokee. Its in white/beige colour, they dont make those anymore.
If you do buy a Jeep I highly recommend the white colour, it looks very slick





Jeep in white:

 
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Very different vehicles.

JGC: more capable off-road, breaks down more often, drives like a truck.

Outback: more of a soft-road than offroad, more reliable, drives like a car rather than a truck.

Also quite a price difference.

The outback actually has the edge on the Jeep in some specific conditions, like deep mud or deep snow, since it has slightly more ground clearance, but with the jeep you get a real 4x4 low transfer mode which will pull you over rocks and fallen trees that would stop an outback if you truly go off-road.

Classic jeep move: deciding you no longer want to wait in line at the Tim Horton's drive through and just turning right and driving over the six inch tall concrete parking blocks to get out and turn around. Not sure I would try that in an outback or an allroad, they might do it, but jeeps are made for it.
 
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If you are comparing outback to JGC you might want to throw Audi Allroad into the mix. They aren't the awesome vehicles they were in the previous generation, when they still had the adjustable suspension, but they are still reasonably good at getting to a ski hill or camp site.

Audi obviously puts you into the luxury category, isn't as capable as either the jeep or the outback off-road, but gives you an Audi interior and more go. Some other tradeoffs.

Much more $ than the Subaru but depending on your trim level choices not far from the Grand Cherokee. If you are willing to shop in the US you can look at the A6 Allroad, I think only the A4 Allroad is available in Canada. The A6 Allroad is pretty comparable to an outback in its uses. A4 Allroad is obviously a bit smaller, more like a Forester.
 
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Audi obviously puts you into the luxury category, isn't as capable as either the jeep or the outback off-road, but gives you an Audi interior and more go. Some other tradeoffs
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If you think the Audi has a nicer interior than the Grand Cherokee, you obviously havent been inside a Jeep.

Here is my interior:





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Audi interior:

 
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I think Audi uses higher quality materials, gives you a much more comfortable and quiet ride, better handling. In other words, it delivers a luxury car experience. On the other hand you aren't going to exit a long line at the Tim Horton's drive through by driving your Allroad over the concrete parking blocks to get out, whereas a jeep driver can do that without a second thought.

Subaru vs jeep vs Allroad will boil down to what you wanted out of the vehicle.
 
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fuji said:
Very different vehicles.

JGC: more capable off-road, breaks down more often, drives like a truck.

Outback: more of a soft-road than offroad, more reliable, drives like a car rather than a truck.

Also quite a price difference.

The outback actually has the edge on the Jeep in some specific conditions, like deep mud or deep snow, since it has slightly more ground clearance, but with the jeep you get a real 4x4 low transfer mode which will pull you over rocks and fallen trees that would stop an outback if you truly go off-road.

Classic jeep move: deciding you no longer want to wait in line at the Tim Horton's drive through and just turning right and driving over the six inch tall concrete parking blocks to get out and turn around. Not sure I would try that in an outback or an allroad, they might do it, but jeeps are made for it.
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Lol, I go over concert barriers quite frequently with my current Jeep Liberty when I am stuck in traffic - to make U-turns. Quite a time saver I tell you.

As for reliability, I did very detailed comparison between Subaru Outback and JGC on carcomplaints.com as well as Edmunds, I find them both to be about the same. Subaru being Japanese does have a "reliability" perception, but the actual consumer survey tells a different story.
 
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George The Curious said:
Okay, so in the other thread about Acura RDX vs Lexus RX, I realized one is girl car, the other is soccer mom car. Jk. I test drove Acura RDX, I didn't like how hard the suspension was for such an expensive car - Chevy Equinox felt more comfortable. Also, it lacked storage capacity - rear seats don't fold flat - and no remote starter. I didn't drive lexus yet, supposedly more comfortable than Lexus, but I just didn't like its look and interior styling.
All in all I realized I needed practical SUV capable of handling all weather conditions, and not some raised sports sedan pretending to be an SUV like Acura RDX.

So now I come to Subaru Outback or Jeep Grand Cherokee. Granted both are pretty safe, and good 4x4 drivetrain. I think Jeep has slight advantage in off roading. Good cargo capacity. Jeep is $10k more. From my extensive research, both have reliability issues since 2013, but Jeep TIPM recall has thus far been resolved, but Subaru's random acceleration / engine hesitation and oil burning / leaking problem has yet to be resolved.

I am slightly biased towards Jeep. but your input is appreciated.
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Subarus are great I drive one

For the last 5 years. Only not an outback but a legacy sedan

Subaru hold there value well and not unreasonably high on maintenance just stay away from the dealer costs of maintenance
 
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When looking at an Outback, go for the 6cyl engine, as there have been no problems with it. The 4 cyl engine has oil leaks and head gasket problems, and there is a big difference in the performance . the difference in fuel economy is marginal. The Subaru is so popular that it is hard to find a new one in stock at a dealer.
 
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