Stupidity-The Intentional Dumbing Down Of Modern Society
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Did you even read my post?? I took your side C-M. Get that chip off your shoulder!
lolol. I have, many, many, many times. I even posted 5 examples of such posts for you a few days ago and was ready to provide 10 more but you weren't willing to take me up on my bet. Your posts are indeed full of fake (lies?) information!
you didn't provide anything in those threads all you do is whine and complain like a 5 year old and ignore other members who disagree with you and agree with my posts. and today you come in this and do the same thing. and when i start another thread you repeat the same cycle over and over and over
Now you are insulting me C-M. You couldn't just take the support and compliment.
This is the real root of your problems. It's not your fake information sources, it's the huge chip on your shoulder. The people on the blue board don't even read your posts anymore, let alone respond to them.
Yes, if you post fake information on a topic that interests me, I'll post a rebuttal with proof. If that embaresses you ..... so be it. Solution: STOP POSTING FALSE INFORMATION.
Back on topic.
I know every generation looks at the current generations and worries. This has shown to be true.
In this case however, changes are coming so fast that we can’t gauge it’s impact before it’s too late.
Years and years pandering to lobby groups and parents have indeed lowered the bar. It’s is not possible to fail in this academic world, whereas in life, it still is.
I have exes and friends who are teachers and everyone to a T will say the same thing. Our side of the world will get left behind as immigrants and the Far East continue to push rigor and effort. And rightfully so because they want the best for their kids and continue to push for it with their own family values.
It’s an sad inside joke where only parents with open eyes and teachers really do know how little prepared this generation is.
Thankfully there will be enough immigrants to take the mantle and thus leave the lower and middle class to less of the pie.
I know every generation looks at the current generations and worries. This has shown to be true.
In this case however, changes are coming so fast that we can’t gauge it’s impact before it’s too late.
Years and years pandering to lobby groups and parents have indeed lowered the bar. It’s is not possible to fail in this academic world, whereas in life, it still is.
I have exes and friends who are teachers and everyone to a T will say the same thing. Our side of the world will get left behind as immigrants and the Far East continue to push rigor and effort. And rightfully so because they want the best for their kids and continue to push for it with their own family values.
It’s an sad inside joke where only parents with open eyes and teachers really do know how little prepared this generation is.
Thankfully there will be enough immigrants to take the mantle and thus leave the lower and middle class to less of the pie.
Nope, you're bang on. I think we went to highschool about the same time, because I remember averages just like you, maybe even lower.
I have a very good friend who teaches High School English and she tells me that they have to have a class average of 80 percent, or else it's their fault. She tells me horror stories of how kids and their parents argue with her about every mark and all her students want to be doctors or lawyers. Anything else, they are failures, yet they don't want to work for it.
For a laugh, I dug up my old highschool report cards and sent her the median marks just to illustrate my point.
Plus, I've always believed that eliminating Grade 13 was a massive mistake. It gave kids the opportunity to learn at an advanced level and 1 more year to mature. Huge difference.
A little movie called Idiocracy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBvIweCIgwk depicts this. Some are even equating the Trump era to it http://www.telegraph.co.uk/films/0/donald-trump-for-president-idiocracy-is-coming-true/.
I don't know if anyone remembers but there was a physics teacher who failed students who refused to turn in assignments (I think in another province). Basically, he thought it was the right thing to do - give them a zero because they did nothing to deserve anything more. I think the principal suspended him and tried to get him fired because it was apparently against policy to fail students.
What we need is system like Germany. In the lower grades kids are streamed into different paths based on their intelligence and potential. The other thing is that trades are considered equal to other professions. In Canada (and other countries) university is considered the best, everything else is 2nd best. Change the system, change the attitude, and the results will come.
I think in general, most people in countries will portray someone doing a white collar office job as more professional, even if a white collar and blue collar person make the same money.
First appearance is always the most important impression because that's all you have to go by at the time, so if you see a bunch of business casual or suit and tie guys walking around, people will usually give more respect right off the bat compared to a someone fixing cars with oily overalls. From there, attitudes can change if you actually meet the people and notice the banker guy is an asshole and the mechanic is a cool guy. But that hardly happens as you will never meet or talk to 99.99% of the people you see. So based on looks, the stereotype is that a clean cut office guy is more professional.
However, IMO, in places like Canada and the US, blue collar and trades jobs get a worse image than in other first world countries due to the image they portray..... and that is the union striking, loud, lazy US auto worker slob kind of image. And that kind of image comes from large companies with lots of workers so that image spreads to other blue collar kinds of jobs.
You can be a great plumber or contractor whose a super nice guy, but for many people they will lump in this person with other blue collar jobs.
It's amazing because if you read articles comparing typical US production facilities and Japanese/Euro facilities, then can be very polarizing. The US plant can seem "more grubby" and the attitudes and image seems more sketchy. Then you look at the manufacturing plants from Germany or Japan and people act more professional, it's cleaner, brighter and you don't get that kind of "us vs. the world" loud attitude.
When I was in high school, I took typing classes but was also very proud of my penmanship. Nice cursive handwriting is becoming a lost art.
Absolutely. The McGuinty government revamped the high school curriculum implemented by the Harris government saying it was too difficult and leading to a higher dropout rate. Utter nonsense. For those who had difficulty learning there was a stream of basic and general courses that could be taken leading to a high school diploma. When the Harris government decided to eliminate Grade 13 (OAC) they purposefully went back and changed curriculum starting in kindergarten to compensate. When the Liberals changed that after 2003 (essentially dumbing it down) it left students unprepared after grade 12 to meet the challenges of first year university level courses. Which is why a significant amount of students stayed for a 5th year to upgrade marks. AKA the "victory lap".
Yet our government in Ontario recently announced that they are looking to eliminate streaming in schools.
All in the name of "equity".
I get that. Problem is, life isn't always equal. You need to work with what you've got. Dumping a pile of brainers in with a pile of nosomuch brainers is nice in theory, but not in practice. I just see all the kids getting frustrated.
In my day, there were 4 streams. In High School, there were 3 streams - general, college, university. (I can't remember what they exactly called it, but general was anyone could take it, college was middle of the road and university was the most advanced. Not to say you didn't have kids out of where they should be, or criss crossing, or who knows what. Then you had a fourth stream, which was "vocational school, which was an entirely different school and they taught kids that were really not going to be doctors any time soon something in line with their talents.
Here's the thing about trades. Some of the brightest guys I've ever met were in the trades. You can't be stupid and run plumbing to an 80 story building. Honestly. You can't be stupid and run electrical to build a new cogen plant. You can't be stupid and build a subway network. Etc. etc. etc. It just doesn't happen. Sure, there are always the brains on a job, then there are the up and comers, and then there are guys who are just a pair of hands.
Canada is the land of the tradesman to tell you the truth. If you're a smart tradesman, you will make a very good living and you will always have work. And that is a fact. You can have a Master's Degree in post modern social awareness and you'll be slinging coffee at the nearest starbucks. (Not that I'm looking down my nose at anyone who works for a living. Don't get me wrong.)
Canada is the land of the tradesman to tell you the truth. If you're a smart tradesman, you will make a very good living and you will always have work. And that is a fact. You can have a Master's Degree in post modern social awareness and you'll be slinging coffee at the nearest starbucks. (Not that I'm looking down my nose at anyone who works for a living. Don't get me wrong.)
Same here. I stayed for 4.5 years and ended up with 33 credits including 7 or 8 OAC's - they took your best 6 to determine university entrance average. I could count on 2 hands the number of Ontario Scholars we had in my high school out of a graduating class of over 100. Ontario Scholars were defined as having an 80%+ average in their 6 best OAC's.
I found that even with OAC's I wasn't fully prepared for 1st year university courses as much as I should have been. It was a bit of an awakening for me.
A propôs streaming and the trades: At the end of the '50s I was streamed out of Grade 8 into a high school class for university-bound geniuses who were supposed to catch up to the Russians and take back the lead in the space-race. Because we would do the five years 9-13 in four, we got no choices: mandatory sciences and math, heavy on academic essentials like Latin. I got great marks in maths and science — in everything but English Lit — and in Grade 13 a few of us did History on our own at lunch, because our timetables had no room for it. Missed Ontario Scholar by .5%
But what I wanted to do was art and shop. Once in university I scraped through at pass level, dropping out in my final year. I was I making up for all that lost time, writing and acting in plays and 8mm movies, designing and building scenery, hanging out in coffee-houses with folkies. Apart from a couple of years detouring back to McGill to become a librarian and respectable family breadwinner, that stuff I was streamed away from was all I've ever done to earn my way since: designing, drawing, building, engineering, mechanizing, plumbing and electrifying to make stuff to get oohs and ahas.
I'd have been better off at Tech, and maybe NTS or OCA after that. Not that I'm complaining, but as many people say — perhaps most people — high school and its streams were something to overcome. But we shouldn't be too judgemental; considering parents get it as wrong as they do, so often, and they've known the kids for years. As long as schools operate like doctors (First do no harm) the kids'll be ahead of the game, when they take over their lives.
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Far as I know, none of us 'geniuses' ever beat any Russians at anything. And the earliest 'success' amongst us was the guy who quit after grade 9. Older TERBians may still have some of his recordings.
But what I wanted to do was art and shop. Once in university I scraped through at pass level, dropping out in my final year. I was I making up for all that lost time, writing and acting in plays and 8mm movies, designing and building scenery, hanging out in coffee-houses with folkies. Apart from a couple of years detouring back to McGill to become a librarian and respectable family breadwinner, that stuff I was streamed away from was all I've ever done to earn my way since: designing, drawing, building, engineering, mechanizing, plumbing and electrifying to make stuff to get oohs and ahas.
I'd have been better off at Tech, and maybe NTS or OCA after that. Not that I'm complaining, but as many people say — perhaps most people — high school and its streams were something to overcome. But we shouldn't be too judgemental; considering parents get it as wrong as they do, so often, and they've known the kids for years. As long as schools operate like doctors (First do no harm) the kids'll be ahead of the game, when they take over their lives.
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Far as I know, none of us 'geniuses' ever beat any Russians at anything. And the earliest 'success' amongst us was the guy who quit after grade 9. Older TERBians may still have some of his recordings.
Mass Sports play a major part in dumbing down society
https://www.richardcassaro.com/the-sports-conspiracy-americans-mass-controlled-enslaved
One way the big corporations (i.e., the Elite) have hijacked America is by “distracting” and “dumbing down” the masses through sports entertainment. This may explain why the corporate logos of America’s most influential national sports leagues―baseball (MLB), basketball (NBA), football (NFL), and hockey (NHL)―all mysteriously share the same parallel occult symbolism and esoteric iconography.
https://www.richardcassaro.com/the-sports-conspiracy-americans-mass-controlled-enslaved
One way the big corporations (i.e., the Elite) have hijacked America is by “distracting” and “dumbing down” the masses through sports entertainment. This may explain why the corporate logos of America’s most influential national sports leagues―baseball (MLB), basketball (NBA), football (NFL), and hockey (NHL)―all mysteriously share the same parallel occult symbolism and esoteric iconography.
