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Student punished for thought crimes for ‘All Lives Matter’ tweet

frankcastle

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There are two ideals here.

One is the ideal of a community characterized by free expression, free inquiry, intellectual honesty, respect for dignity of others, and openness to constructive change.

The other is the ideal of the community being a tolerant and supportive one, characterized by civility and consideration for others.

You can have one or you can have the other. But you cannot have both.

Every university says it dedicates itself to promoting new ideas. But the fact is that most new ideas of any merit and originality end up treading on someone's toes. Think of the professors who are offended by every new thought or idea, seeing it as a criticism of themselves? And what about the student committee members who see inflicting punishment as a celebration of their own power to affect people?

Ordering others to hold back from criticizing/ parodying/ poking fun at/ people who might be offended, is only a small step back from Lenin:
Why should freedom of speech and freedom of the press be allowed? Why should a government which is doing what it believes to be right allow itself to be criticized? It would not allow opposition by lethal weapons. Ideas are much more fatal things than guns. Why should any man be allowed to buy a printing press and disseminate pernicious opinions calculated to embarrass the government?

"Calculated embarrassment" is required in a free society.



Gotta disagree with this. There is no limit to the depths to which people will go, to make themselves offended. You cannot possibly kowtow to other people's standards as to what they might find offensive -- even if you wanted to.

The only standard I (any of us) can actually use, as to what is offensive, is what I myself find offensive -- and then pay heed to Dr Seuss: Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind.

In fact, Dr S's single sentence sounds like a better code of conduct for a University to adopt, than the Harvard nonsense.
I agree with you. I am not in support of what happened. I am just saying that one shouldn't be surprised it happened.

I think those saying she should have been protected by freedom of speech are naïve to what happens to your rights when you enter into a contract.

By going to a university you pay to go to classes but you also sign off on an agreement to a certain set of behavior.

I think a lot of people are pretty free wheeling about what they post of facebook and twitter. If their boss wanted to take exception to it then they could pursue it. I am not saying this is by any means right, but that's the way of the world.

I need to see cases where someone says something of worth before I'm ever going to get bent out of shape of the state of affairs with regards to free speech and private places,
 

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you just admitted that all lives do not matter. and when are you and company will protest the recent Rexdale murders including the murder of 3 black men and one 16 year old boy from st lucia?
 

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You seem to be ignoring the point that the university's administration has the ultimate power. They could announce tomorrow that there was no more student government, it had lost all university privileges and has to vacate their university quarters.

Now would the student government decide to act like a government in exile? Likely so, but most governments in exile fade away in a relatively short time.

You really think that a university is going to ban a student government and tell them to move out?
 

frankcastle

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You really think that a university is going to ban a student government and tell them to move out?
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/11/07/n...ernment-disbanded-in-dispute-over-budget.html

http://www.welcometothemachine.info/media.php?ID=57

Officials at the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa abolished the Student Government Association in 1993 after violence marred the election process. One of the candidates for president that year was beaten at her home and had a burning cross placed in her yard.

https://www.thefire.org/school-officials-disband-student-government/



http://www.asgaonline.com/ME2/dirmo...4&tier=3&rid=664BCFFDA8B64D3CA143E9617224F349

Seemingly since the day the Student Government Association was disbanded in 1991 by then University President Modesto A. Maidique, there have been members yearning to put it back together again.

It has happened many times these stories are from 2016 back to the 90s. I am sure there are more examples out there.
 
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