Everybody always long for the good old days but what has happened is the market has evolved. Each club now has its market niche. Seductions and PE 55 have become the Babies of the late 90's with less conversation. The backroom at Seductions and the fromt corner at PE 55 are nothing but the upstairs at Romans. It won't be long until the girls at Seductions starting taking you back to those empty motel rooms along the side just like Romans evolved to the rooms upstairs. They just aren't smart enough to think of that yet. The Sundowner is just an extension of the Chipawa bar scene with naked girls. Crysrals is the best place to go for dancer customer interaction up front. My friends and I often enjoy a group of guys who attract a group of females for some laughs before the fun time. You have also remmber one thing, these girls sit there all week long and make most of their money on Fri and Sat between 11 -2 you can't blame them for trying to maximize peak time. Go to Crystals and the sunsdowner between 7 -10 and you will have more cinversation than you want. Those of us who live along the border are vary lucky. Guys throughout the US all speak of the Canadian ballay with awe and wonder. It's like the Falls when you live there you take it for granted, move away and you will really wish for the old days