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Stoneman Douglas teacher arrested after leaving gun in public bathroom

By David Williams, CNN
Updated 7:06 PM EDT, Thu April 12, 2018

(CNN) A teacher at the Parkland, Florida, high school where 17 students and teachers were shot to death was arrested for allegedly leaving a loaded gun in a public bathroom.

A homeless man is accused of picking it up and firing it.

According to a Broward County Sheriff's report, Sean Simpson removed his 9mm Glock pistol while using the bathroom at the Deerfield Beach Pier on Sunday and forgot it in the stall when he left to wash his hands.

He realized his mistake less than five minutes later and heard a shot while he was walking to recover his weapon, the report said.

Simpson told deputies that he saw a man holding the gun when he walked into the bathroom and grabbed it out of his hand, the report said.

Simpson was charged with unsafe storage of a firearm because the gun could have been found by a child at the public beach.

Simpson told CNN affiliate WPLG that he could not comment on the criminal case, though he did say he did not believe it constituted a violation of school board rules. Simpson did not respond to a CNN request for comment.

"Safety and security remain the District's highest priorities," the Broward County School District said in a statement. "The District is aware of an incident, which occurred over the weekend at the Deerfield Beach Pier. At this juncture, no determination regarding employee discipline has been made, pending the final disposition of the charges."

Deputies said Joseph Spataro fired the gun to see if it was loaded. He was charged with discharging a firearm in a public or residential property and trespassing because he was told to leave the area several times in the past.

Spataro's attorney could not be reached for comment.

Simpson is a chemistry teacher at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School and was there on February 14, when a former student opened fire in the school.

He also has a Florida concealed weapons permit.

In an interview with MSNBC after the shooting, Simpson said he might be willing to carry a gun to protect his students.

"I don't know if that's the answer, but I know that there are some of us that are willing to take the training if it was offered and probably be another line of defense, but again it's a complicated subject and I'm not sure if it's the answer," Simpson said. "I think it's easier to get these type weapons out of the hands of people that aren't meant to do anything but kill."

The Broward County School Board announced on Tuesday that it would not participate in program to arm teachers.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/12/us/parkland-teacher-gun-trnd/index.html
 

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And this would be the sort of "responsible gun-owner", duly and properly licensed, whose concealed carry would supposedly make the school where he teaches a safer place? It's only by sheer accident that he wasn't the cause of someone's death.

The 'guns make us safe people' owe us their explanation of how they'd make him and others like him a "responsible owner", when clearly he was not.
 

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How did the homeless guy get into the school bathroom?
As the story clearly states: It was a washroom at a public beach. All the more reason for the 'responsible' owner to be careful and, uh responsible with his gun, as there's absolutely no screening or limitation on who's around.

Fortunately the homeless guy who retrieved the abandoned weapon only tried to see if it was loaded. Unlike at this teacher's school where a 'screened' student deliberately shot and killed all those kids with his 'responsibly owned' gun.
 

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I appreciate the two articles supporting the general point that guns are always dangerous and deadly and therefore need to always be handled with the utmost care and responsibility; they should never be 'just another thing you carry, pick up and put down'.

You might want to check your link to the metronews story from Vancouver which repeatedly took me only to the Star's metro Toronto news page. I did find a report of the BC RCMP's negligent handling of a grenade launcher from another source. It too speaks to that same point.
 

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As the story clearly states: It was a washroom at a public beach. All the more reason for the 'responsible' owner to be careful and, uh responsible with his gun, as there's absolutely no screening or limitation on who's around.

Fortunately the homeless guy who retrieved the abandoned weapon only tried to see if it was loaded. Unlike at this teacher's school where a 'screened' student deliberately shot and killed all those kids with his 'responsibly owned' gun.
The headline is written in such a way to suggest that the teacher left the gun in a school bathroom. The same applies even if you remove "Stoneman Douglas" from the headline.
 

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The headline is written in such a way to suggest that the teacher left the gun in a school bathroom. The same applies even if you remove "Stoneman Douglas" from the headline.
There's no accounting for what people read or don't. But with or without the words 'Stoneman Douglas', the headline:
Stoneman Douglas teacher arrested after leaving gun in public bathroom

explicitly states that it was a "…public bathroom", not a school one.
 

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The old "what to do with your holstered weapon when you have to take a dump" conundrum. Well, number one rule would be to never put a loaded weapon where it's not under your control.

On the good news front, at least the homeless guy didn't look down the barrel or point it at somebody when he was checking to see if it was loaded.
 

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There's no accounting for what people read or don't. But with or without the words 'Stoneman Douglas', the headline:
Stoneman Douglas teacher arrested after leaving gun in public bathroom

explicitly states that it was a "…public bathroom", not a school one.
Yes, I realize now that it was in a public (not school) bathroom. No need to hammer it into people's heads. The reality is that people glance at headlines and can easily be misled just as Huckfinn and I were. IMO, the fact that he teaches at Stoneman Douglas is not that relevant to the story because it did not happen at school and it doesn't look like he violated any board rules. I agree that the teacher was definitely careless with his gun, but it looks like he did not do anything against the rules.

The other reality is that headlines like this are designed to get views even if they are a bit misleading. You're less likely to read an article with a headline of "Man arrested after leaving gun in public bathroom."

This is classic American sensationalist news.
 

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As the story clearly states: It was a washroom at a public beach. All the more reason for the 'responsible' owner to be careful and, uh responsible with his gun, as there's absolutely no screening or limitation on who's around.

Fortunately the homeless guy who retrieved the abandoned weapon only tried to see if it was loaded. Unlike at this teacher's school where a 'screened' student deliberately shot and killed all those kids with his 'responsibly owned' gun.
Oops....sorry. As soon as I saw teacher and using to protect students I thought it was a school washroom.

That'll teach me for skimming the article!!!!

Thanks OJ.
 

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Yes, I realize now that it was in a public (not school) bathroom. No need to hammer it into people's heads. The reality is that people glance at headlines and can easily be misled just as Huckfinn and I were. IMO, the fact that he teaches at Stoneman Douglas is not that relevant to the story because it did not happen at school and it doesn't look like he violated any board rules. I agree that the teacher was definitely careless with his gun, but it looks like he did not do anything against the rules.

The other reality is that headlines like this are designed to get views even if they are a bit misleading. You're less likely to read an article with a headline of "Man arrested after leaving gun in public bathroom."

This is classic American sensationalist news.
Absolutely. Don't be victimized by it or you'll start believing in walls and dangers where there aren't any.

Sorry if you felt hammered, but the lite-version, although clearly stated and printed, hadn't done the needed job, for the reasons you stated.
 

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Lucky for him and pro-gunners, the homeless guy didn't turn out to be a crook, and didn't run off with the gun and shoot someone.
 

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Absolutely. Don't be victimized by it or you'll start believing in walls and dangers where there aren't any.

Sorry if you felt hammered, but the lite-version, although clearly stated and printed, hadn't done the needed job, for the reasons you stated.
The headline does feed into the victim mentality and CNN is very good at playing it up.
 

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And this would be the sort of "responsible gun-owner", duly and properly licensed, whose concealed carry would supposedly make the school where he teaches a safer place?....
We need to arm more people so that if one of the armed people loses his gun the person who picked it up can be shot. Maybe the homeless should be trained to safely handle guns they find.
 

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The headline does feed into the victim mentality and CNN is very good at playing it up.
Seems that every news story out there mentions the school connection.

Simply, including the name of the school where the mass shooting happened makes it more likely that people will click on the story and CNN (and every other news site) is driven by that add revenue.
 

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Seems that every news story out there mentions the school connection.

Simply, including the name of the school where the mass shooting happened makes it more likely that people will click on the story and CNN (and every other news site) is driven by that add revenue.
Nothing to do with CNN. It's how gossip has always worked, and most 'news' is just that.

As explorerzip noted, 'Man who forgot gun in public washroom arrested' is a bore, not a headline; like, 'Red light stops traffic'. But tie the gun to a harmless milquetoast teacher, and even better, to a school in the news, and best of all, to one where there was a mass shooting, and you've got a real grabber.

Read the stories first; ignore the headlines til the very last.
 
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