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Stone Cold Justice: Israel’s torture of Palestinian children - ABC Australia

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They have no conception of Palestinians as human beings. Gideon Levy nailed it.
 
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Isn’t Australia one of those 5 eyes, where you don’t trust anything that comes out of it Kautilya?

As I asked in the other thread. Is there, any legitimate sources left in the world, that are completely without vested interest?
 

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They have no conception of Palestinians as human beings. Gideon Levy nailed it.
You've been told again and again that this is not true.

We've gone through this nonsense with other posts of yours - i.e. your rants about how anyone who doesn't agree with you is a "racist" and how anyone who doesn't agree with you supports "collective punishment" for the Gazans. It has been explained to you carefully and repeatedly that your assumptions are incorrect. Yet you take no heed and post them anyway.

This is like talking to Mitch about Trump or Orry about vaccines. It's like debating an arrogant, narcissistic who is so in love with his own opinions that he doesn't register any valid disagreement with his own views.
 
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Isn’t Australia one of those 5 eyes, where you don’t trust anything that comes out of it Kautilya?

As I asked in the other thread. Is there, any legitimate sources left in the world, that are completely without vested interest?
Are you drinking too much these days NYG? What do the 5 eyes have to do with this documentary? 😂

You've been told again and again that this is not true.

We've gone through this nonsense with other posts of yours - i.e. your rants about how anyone who doesn't agree with you is a "racist" and how anyone who doesn't agree with you supports "collective punishment" for the Gazans. It has been explained to you carefully and repeatedly that your assumptions are incorrect. Yet you take no heed and post them anyway.

This is like talking to Mitch about Trump or Orry about vaccines. It's like debating an arrogant, narcissistic who is so in love with his own opinions that he doesn't register any valid disagreement with his own views.
And you have been told again and again that you are wrong. You do not have to take it from me. You can watch that documentary that is linked here, in this thread, and the others that I linked in other threads where Israelis, Palestinians and others from the front lines will tell you about what is going on.

Yours are opinions formed by consuming pro-Israel media in the west. I do not see you as a radical right winger. However, given you already admitted to me that Israel was indiscriminately bombing the Palestinians way earlier, only to do a 180 and change your opinions, it seems to me that you have taken this position because you are somehow unable to admit that a people you see as developed and civilized could possibly do such things. But remember the Germans were civilized too, before they mass murdered the Jews. So anyone can do it.

My opinions are formed by actually talking to Israelis, and reading about the history of the conflict and listening to people who are deeply knowledgeable about the conflict. Not people like Anderson Cooper, or Jake Tapper, who show no journalistic integrity or some random Twitter account with clickbait and provocative headlines.

Answer me this simple question: After watching this documentary linked here, how are you rationalizing it in your own mind? How are you justifying to yourself, what the Israelis are doing to the Palestinian people. I am not being facetious. I genuinely ask, because I want to understand how you (and others who are opposed to the pro-Palestinian position) are processing it.
 
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You too, have a long history of this and that and whine about gas lighting or need I remind you of Ontarios Human rights code and not reading a handful of things….Or projecting racism anywhere and everywhere. and have trouble with Newtons 3rd law.

Are you or are not on record. A few times, as saying “I don’t trust the media from Western societies and allies

ABC Australia…

Quotes and italics to denote paraphrasing.
 
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You too, have a long history of this and that and whine about gas lighting or need I remind you of Ontarios Human rights code and not reading a handful of things….Or projecting racism anywhere and everywhere. and have trouble with Newtons 3rd law.

Are you or are not on record. A few times, as saying “I don’t trust the media from Western societies and allies

ABC Australia…

Quotes and italics to denote paraphrasing.
Are you talking to me? I am not going to start a separate tangent on this thread with you, so this will be my last response.

1. On the issue of the ONHRC, immigration, jobs etc., you were squarely wrong. You were literally posting text from the ONHRC that was saying the exact opposite of the point that you were trying to make and then claiming something else.

2. No I am not on record making blanket statements like "I don't trust the media from Western societies or allies". It depends on the issue. On the issue of Russia/Ukraine, I trust the western media and not Russian propaganda. On the issue of the Khalistan, I trust Indian media and authorities because they know the issue better than western authorities or media do. On the issue of Israel, I trust sources that are not excessively pro-Israel but are rather balanced. On matters of domestic policies, I trust center left or center right media. It depends on what I see as balanced and reasonable.
 
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I believe the documentary was released in 2021? Otherwise it seems to stay true to its narrative based on the events that took place on Nov 24, 2023 with the release of Palestinians youths/minors.

 
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Are you talking to me? I am not going to start a separate tangent on this thread with you, so this will be my last response.

1. On the issue of the ONHRC, immigration, jobs etc., you were squarely wrong. You were literally posting text from the ONHRC that was saying the exact opposite of the point that you were trying to make and then claiming something else.

2. No I am not on record making blanket statements like "I don't trust the media from Western societies or allies". It depends on the issue. On the issue of Russia/Ukraine, I trust the western media and not Russian propaganda. On the issue of the Khalistan, I trust Indian media and authorities because they know the issue better than western authorities or media do. On the issue of Israel, I trust sources that are not excessively pro-Israel but are rather balanced. On matters of domestic policies, I trust center left or center right media. It depends on what I see as balanced and reasonable.
You’re right, that specific topic need not be rehashed. So try reading it on your own time, actually reading. And I’ll add, before mouthing off, projecting racism, calling people racist. I shouldn’t have to explain the differences between best practices and policies, and why it has different sections for each, nor should I have to explain the differences between applications and interviews, and things that do or might qualify as legitimate “Canadian experiences”

I’ll get you started however with just this…yet again
The prohibition contained in subsection 23(2) of the Code is qualified by subsection 23(3), which allows an employer
to ask at a personal interview

I think I might take some time to dig up quotes where you have on the topic of the war in Israel said (paraphrase) western media can’t be trusted…that’s why there should be independent 3rd parties.

I guess you trust them, when it suits your narrative or as the case may be. That’s cool though.
 
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The implication in these posts is that Israeli Jews are beautiful people and Palestinians are not.
I'd post pictures of Palestinian children being released but...

Yup that right there is the dehumanizing rhetoric, that mandrill et all are not even aware of (Not accusing mandrill of doing this, but it is the rhetoric out there). Once again, Gideon Levy was right!

If something bad happens to the Israelis, then it is disastrous, heartbreaking, unthinkable and antisemitic and harkens back to the days of the holocaust. But if something happens to the Palestinians those fucking savages brought it on themselves.

If Israeli kids are released from Hamas captivity, they are beautiful. Well, am sure they are. But Palestinian children do not even get to show their faces and get to remain nameless, faceless entities that have no human recognition or acknowledgement of their suffering.

And if you call this out as racist, which is objectively what it is, then you are an annoying narcissist who will not be considerate of alternative points of view. 🤪
 
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Yup that right there is the dehumanizing rhetoric, that mandrill et all are not even aware of (Not accusing them of doing this, but it is the rhetoric out there). Once again, Gideon Levy was right!

If something bad happens to the Israelis, then it is disastrous, heartbreaking, unthinkable and antisemitic and harkens back to the days of the holocaust. But if something happens to the Palestinians those fucking savages brought it on themselves.

If Israeli kids are released from Hamas captivity, they are beautiful. Well, am sure they are. But Palestinian children do not even get to show their faces and get to remain nameless, faceless entities that have no human recognition or acknowledgement of their suffering.

And if you call this out as racist, which is objectively what it is, then you are an annoying narcissist who will not be considerate of alternative points of view. 🤪
This post highlights the terms used to dehumanize. The language used is just one form, the way that CTV has banned the word 'Palestine'.

 
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This post highlights the terms used to dehumanize. The language used is just one form, the way that CTV has banned the word 'Palestine'.
The people dehumanizing Palestinians are Hamas purposely trying to get their own children killed to further their agenda. OTOH to be fair they don't mind killing Jewish children either so that seems to be a thing for them.

Attack Israel targeting civilians and children. Then when Israel responds as they must, make sure their own children are in the way and die via collateral damage. Cue the useful idiots in their west and their anti west reaction who can't tell the difference between targeting children and collateral damage... worse purposeful setting up collateral damage to score support among the useful idiots.

Supporters of Hamas are being grifted just as much as Andrew Taint supporters and Trumpards in supporting their genocidal plan to eradicate the Jews from the middle east.

Again why do you think they launched this attack and took hostages.
Do you think they thought this time they would drive the Jews out of their country. No, I mean they are evil but they are not retarded
Do they think if they inflict enough damage that the Jews would go, oh well we should GTFO... no I mean it hasn't worked all the other times.
The only possible reason for them to launch their October attack is knowing that Israel must respond and in doing so their own kids will get caught... and to make sure, not move them or in any way keep them safe but rather position themselves to encourage as many of their own children to be killed.

I am sure I am not the only person to explain this to the lot of ye. I can only conclude that you are one of those unrepentant hate mongers who just refuse to see reality, like those racists who would rather die than have a black surgeon operate on them. You are disgusting and you make me sick. That you can support the one group who literally wants to engage in genocide while claiming to be against a genocide that doesn't in any way fit the definition of the word.
 
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