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calloway

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I fully realize that the quote was from Alice in Wonderland. It was just rather ironic that this is your signature line under the current context of our "heated" discussion.

"But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "or you wouldn't have come here."
 

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No harm Beejay. But just so I can understand you fully... you've never seen Stephany... you've never tried to see Stephany... and you will never attempt to see Stephany in the future? Have I got that right? So your opinions were obviously biased because you're allowing other people to sway your decisions without ever seeing or trying to meet her in the first place? Who in the Terb world is the university graduate and can help Beejay and me settle this issue?

"A bias is a prejudice in a general or specific sense, usually in the sense for having a predilection to one particular view or ideology. One is said to be biased if one is influenced by one's biases. A bias could for example lead one to accept or non-accept the truth of a claim, not because of the strength of the claim itself, but because it does or does not correspond to one's own preconceived ideas."
 

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calloway said:
No harm Beejay. But just so I can understand you fully... you've never seen Stephany... you've never tried to see Stephany... and you will never attempt to see Stephany in the future? Have I got that right? So your opinions were obviously biased because you're allowing other people to sway your decisions without ever seeing or trying to meet her in the first place? Who in the Terb world is the university graduate and can help Beejay and me settle this issue?

"A bias is a prejudice in a general or specific sense, usually in the sense for having a predilection to one particular view or ideology. One is said to be biased if one is influenced by one's biases. A bias could for example lead one to accept or non-accept the truth of a claim, not because of the strength of the claim itself, but because it does or does not correspond to one's own preconceived ideas."
Convoluted logic at best!!
 

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Damm... another big friggin' word that I have to figure out what it means. This is great Beejay... you've almost doubled your Terb postings in one afternoon. I think I should get 10% out of this... OMFG not this issue again.

con·vo·lut·ed ( P ) Pronunciation Key (knv-ltd)
adj.
Having numerous overlapping coils or folds: a convoluted seashell.
Intricate; complicated: convoluted legal language; convoluted reasoning.

convoluted - adjective

1 very twisted:
- a very convoluted route/knot

2 describes sentences, explanations and arguments, etc. that are unreasonably long and difficult to understand:
- His grammar explanations are terribly convoluted.
- Her book is full of long convoluted sentences.
 

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hammertm said:
I am sure someone who is going to travel to k-w isn't going to skip appointments. I am sure everyone in the biz at one time or another has had to cancell an appointment, pointing out one thread that has something negative is a cheap shot. Mabye Bailey should come for a tour of k-w instead of bashing people who are.(and bring Selina with you)
at present hammertm...we do not have a kitchener date planned...but it could be a possibility in the future....who knows.
 

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After this thread... I think I may have to change my handle name to "Alice in Wonderland" in order to secretly get in and see Bailey and find out whether her hot little temper carries over to the bedroom. I obviously have to be very careful not to yell out the wrong SP name at that special moment.
 

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Holy Cow!!!! This has been the MOST entertaining debate here I have witnessed! Better start saving my pennies and dump this silly MP hobby, SP's are where it's at!!! I love people who are passionate about their jobs and reputations!
Bravo!!
 

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Number of posts

calloway said:
... you've almost doubled your Terb postings in one afternoon...
There goes that logic again! If my number of posts on TERB is insignificant, I guess yours don't count for a heck of lot on Adultmb either since you've only posted 18 times on that Board. Frankly, I've never understood how someone could claim superiority because he as 1000+ posts. All that indicates to me is that he has too much time on his hands!!
 

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hammertm...you are right, Jasmine and I came to Kitchener, and well, it was an alright turn out...not what we were hoping for. We were reassured that it was just that sp's are the common hobby there. Plus I think we were just spoiled in Ottawa! We should have gone to Kitchener first! lol

I think they would do very well in Kitchener.

Now, as far as the rest of this thread. This girl is relatively new to the secen isn't she?? At least to adultmb right?? Well, the rest of the sp's she is "competing" with, have been doing this for a while, and no what a client needs and is looking for. She is probably just learning. Just like ANY job out there, we learn as we go. Our professionalism grows as we learn, as we grow. I am sure by her reading all that is going on right now, she will be learning from it. Hopefully anyway.

I mean, my very, very first review was here on terb, and it was aweful! Absolutely aweful...it wasn't to do with my professionalism or anything, just that I was having an off day, and well, it showed in my performance. I addressed the issue, and apologized to the individual...long story short, he now drives a far distance to see me and books four hour sessions. What I am trying to say is, we all start from somewhere, we learn, and try to rectofy. Now look, I have more positive reviews than I can keep up with...all because I took criticism to heart and wanted to change that as best as I could.

Give the girl time to adjust. To learn. None of us are perfect, it is her loss if she screws up. Maybe she will take these comments to heart as well, and if she wants her reputation to take a positive turn, she will do what ever she can to fix things. If she doesn't, well then she obviously needs to put her time and energy into something else that she is good at to make a living. Everything today is client orientated...no matter what job you choose, you need to remember that. It is what'll make you or break you.

I am surprised that Calloway, of all people, was questioned about his review. A very good review I might add...also just as surprised that anyone would not know he was joking about other comments. That is Calloway for you! I love that about em! lol

just my 6 cents...2 after taxes....

kayla
 

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Re: Number of posts

beejay said:
There goes that logic again! If my number of posts on TERB is insignificant, I guess yours don't count for a heck of lot on Adultmb either since you've only posted 18 times on that Board. Frankly, I've never understood how someone could claim superiority because he as 1000+ posts. All that indicates to me is that he has too much time on his hands!!
I go out for a few beers to the local SC and come back to see this thread still going strong. Beejay... I never claimed any type of superiority. Far from it actually... I'm just a average every day guy that just loves to have sex. It does scare me however that I was a lurker for about two years before actually joining Terb. As far as AdultMB... I will admit that I've been a longtime lurker and really only joined after recently meeting some of the wonderful ladies London has to offer. Thank you Kayla for your comments... it's very much appreciated after going through this experience.

The key difference between you and I Beejay, on this specific issue, is that I actually called Stephany to set up an appointment and I actually saw Stephany for a session. You sit behind your computer and make judgements from reading comments about a girl you personally know absolutely nothing about. You haven't even tried to see her. When decent people come under attack that I've met... of course I'm going to try and defend them.

Let's try this again... if Stephany is so terrible... then don't see her. If Stephany is so terrible... her business will not survive. If Stephany is so terrible... the KW visit will never happen. But you know what? There's probably a dozen more girls ready to step into her place. I have absolutely nothing to gain from this. But at least I can say I have the credibility of actually meeting Stephanie before making my comments.

My words to you on your postings were more congratulatory than a criticism... paranoia is obviously setting in. You don't know me and I don't know you. Maybe you've been on these board for years as a lurker. Good for you... but don't criticize me because I give back information and reviews to the very same people that have helped me find some great ladies over the years.
 

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Okay now.. group hug!
Or possibly more in line with us.... GANG BANG!!

Just one point though since it is a review board,isn't the intent to help us form an opinion before we dive in...

Therefore one must weigh positive vs. negative reviews and form their opinion from that.

So in effect both of you are correct in your beliefs based on A) first hand experience OR B) reviews, so nobody is right or wrong.. to each his own.

One persons rose is anothers thorn.

Personally I'd screw a snake for the experience..... no not really..hmmmmm
 

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After this public attack by certain individuals on two different boards it wouldn't surprise me that Stephany packs it in. But if you guys are still interested and I assume you are... I will still try to set up a visit to KW. As stated earlier... I sincerely doubt that she would come all the way here to stand up a series of guaranteed appointments. Usually it's the other way around with client no-shows. But I'm sure that's another discussion we could have one day in the future. I think the following comments from a well respected AdultMB poster by the name of Wes will be an appropriate way to end this thread.

Wes said:
Well first of all, I back Calloway and anyone else completely for sticking up for Stephany, reasons being I am one of fortunate ones to have seen her, and also as EVERYONE knows I have defended a SP before myself. Stephany may not be that great with the business side of the business, but definitely excels with the "hands on" side of it. Do not forget she is *21*.. chances are this not something she wants to do forever.. money is good when in demand, and although she does love sex, this business may not be somethin she wants to do forever. Although she may lose a few prospecting clients with this thread.. with how long its been going on don't be thinking she won't have new requests for appoints from all this.

Bailey, your clients would surely stick up for you too no matter what wrong you would ever do. Your business savy as well as other SP's on here are truly professional, hence why you do so well. I however have to agree that your comments against Stephany as well as again accusing another of wrong doing, saying you wouldn't do either such accusations.. is bettering your image, even if not doing it consciously. Just remember a fool is one that opens his mouth when has nothing intelligent to say but a wiseman knows when to say nothing.... (or something like that..)

Really.. this thread is mirroring another.. accusations.. defences.. forgiveness.. I forget who it was that stated it in this thread.. but..whoever wishes to try to see Stephany.. then do so. As Rammy said.. if for whatever reason appointment is not kept, don't realy lose much.. still have your money. If someone is upset that SOMEhow a cancelled appointment could mean a SO finding out.. obviously that plus others are risks one takes in being in this hobby in the first place. Before this becomes another locked thread, why not end this AS IS.. all can make up minds and make a choice.. if want to see someone who is more reliable for appoints, then see someone Like Bailey, Selina or Veronica. If want to live on the wild side more.. like not knowing what may or may happen... will you get to see a young SP for an appointemnt.. will it not happen.. then make an appointment with Stephany. No matter which you chose, there will always be other guys willing to see the ones you chose not to see.
 

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Yes there is a Selina based in London.

Kayla:)
 

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Calloway:

PM me with the date that she will be in KW. I'll see if my schedule will allow me to get there.
 

Big Dick

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She screw me. She promised appointment with me for the incall. I drove from windsor to london got there called her won't answer her phone, left here massage call her back won't answers PM her next day she reply said you loser.
Guy forget about this S21. She think she have this guy Callaway promote her. she can pissed off anyone she please.

calloway said:
After this public attack by certain individuals on two different boards it wouldn't surprise me that Stephany packs it in. But if you guys are still interested and I assume you are... I will still try to set up a visit to KW. As stated earlier... I sincerely doubt that she would come all the way here to stand up a series of guaranteed appointments. Usually it's the other way around with client no-shows. But I'm sure that's another discussion we could have one day in the future. I think the following comments from a well respected AdultMB poster by the name of Wes will be an appropriate way to end this thread.
 

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When is this going to end ???

So far I have been very neutral on this thread. No more! If the intention of this post was for a review, it has certainly been hijacked into attacks on a SP who cannot defend herself.

To top it off, another SP started this attack and escalated the decibels with the help of "others" when the objectives were not achieved.

I find it a little strange that a Mr. Big Dick with his first post since joining Terb in Jan, 04 will dedicate it to "warn" others to lower their expectations. What a waste!! Is this the first time and only time that he has been disappointed ?? I thought he would have used his "virgin post" to benefit others with his first "exciting" SP review instead!

:)
 

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Never through the entire "heated" discussion did I question another guys comments or defend Stephany's apparent failure to keep appointments. I simply asked that everyone get the facts first and those individuals who made negative comments without even trying to see Stephany were being unfair at that point. But what pissed me off the most was when another SP comes on the board and tries to educate us all on how an SP should run her business. Who in the heck is she to tell anyone how to run their business? If there was ever a classic example of a conflict of interest... she showed it. I don't tell anyone how to run their business and I surely don't believe another SP should tell anyone SP how to do their job. It's rather ironic that I don't see Bailey offering business courses to the poorly reviewed SP's advertising in the LFP that appear on the AdultMB London board. It was quite obvious that she had something specifically against Stephany and that is what pissed me off the most. She denies ever knowing Stephany... but she seems to know a fair amount of information about her... interesting.

If Stephany is no good... her SP business is over. A professional SP would simply sit back... watch and wait for the phone to start ringing. I had a great time with Stephany and my review is honest. I'm trying to get her to visit KW... but after all this negative crap on two different boards... it appears she's gone. I will still try to get her here and find it hard to believe that she would come all this way and stand any guys up. Would I recommend her if you were visiting London? Yes, but you're obviously taking your chances. In the past year... I've been stood up twice going to London to see an SP. Where was Bailey? Maybe that's part of the risk I guess. Was I pissed off? Of course.. but I've learned now to have a back-up plan always available.
 
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