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Tomoreno

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You really need to stop watching Fox New, AON and Newmax! Let me help you! I want you to be able to post and not be taken to task all the time with real facts and not nonsense and bullshit, I really do!!!



NOTICE I DID NOT use CNN to illustrate just HOW WRONG you are!!!!
Well, thanks for not using CNN. That's one news network that I don't take seriously for the last 20 years. The amount of lies coming from them is mind-boggling.

I don't watch Fox or AON or Newsmax btw.

Pfiser isn't the only company who announced effective vaccine after the election. It's seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence.

I don't buy the notion that CEOs of those companies didn't know about effectiveness of their vaccines in October.

And I'm not saying it to defend Trump. I'm not his supporter, never was. I simply dislike how he became a target for spying, leaks, all kinds of fabrications and baseless accusations before he even took office. At least the Media had a blast for the past 4 years.
 

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Well, thanks for not using CNN. That's one news network that I don't take seriously for the last 20 years. The amount of lies coming from them is mind-boggling.

I don't watch Fox or AON or Newsmax btw.

Pfiser isn't the only company who announced effective vaccine after the election. It's seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence.

I don't buy the notion that CEOs of those companies didn't know about effectiveness of their vaccines in October.

And I'm not saying it to defend Trump. I'm not his supporter, never was. I simply dislike how he became a target for spying, leaks, all kinds of fabrications and baseless accusations before he even took office. At least the Media had a blast for the past 4 years.
You are suggesting the CEOs withheld information about vaccines until after the election to fuck Trump over...do you have any evidence or is this just another MAGA conspiracy?
 

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Pfiser isn't the only company who announced effective vaccine after the election. It's seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence.

I don't buy the notion that CEOs of those companies didn't know about effectiveness of their vaccines in October.
Why? I get it "seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence" to you, but that's just emotion.
The companies knew they had a reasonably effective vaccine before that, since it was already in Phase 3 and they had some interim data. But they didn't have unblinded data before because if they unblinded it it would never get approved. They had been saying that late October to November was the most likely time they would have enough data since the beginning, so nothing changed.

Basically, the only thing that happened is that Trump started insisting they announce results early to help him.
Remember that Trump doesn't believe in results, he believes in the perception of things.
That's why he told Ukraine they didn't need to actually investigate Biden, they needed to announce they were investigating Biden.
That's what he says in his own books about how he would often fake construction at his sites when they were being investigated or reporters came by. It wasn't nearly as important that the work got done as it was that there was a perception the work got done.

So of course he didn't care if announcing they had a vaccine early would damage the credibility of the company or even prevent the vaccine from being approved - what was important was the perception created by announcing it.
 

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Why? I get it "seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence" to you, but that's just emotion.
The companies knew they had a reasonably effective vaccine before that, since it was already in Phase 3 and they had some interim data. But they didn't have unblinded data before because if they unblinded it it would never get approved. They had been saying that late October to November was the most likely time they would have enough data since the beginning, so nothing changed.

Basically, the only thing that happened is that Trump started insisting they announce results early to help him.
Remember that Trump doesn't believe in results, he believes in the perception of things.
That's why he told Ukraine they didn't need to actually investigate Biden, they needed to announce they were investigating Biden.
That's what he says in his own books about how he would often fake construction at his sites when they were being investigated or reporters came by. It wasn't nearly as important that the work got done as it was that there was a perception the work got done.

So of course he didn't care if announcing they had a vaccine early would damage the credibility of the company or even prevent the vaccine from being approved - what was important was the perception created by announcing it.
In simple words, a conman!
 

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Keep in miiiind trump did not fund pfizer. And he has a history of court judgements for fraud. And then lying about almost everything. Thus these are not baseless accusations.
 
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How many Republicans have flip/flopped on their support for Trump? Who did the flip/flop on SCOTUS nominees?

Flip/flopping is a Republican game...Lindsey Graham can't be believed on anything, his position changes week to week.
Ebbed a chameleon gets jealous of Fucker Carlson.
 

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Well, thanks for not using CNN. That's one news network that I don't take seriously for the last 20 years. The amount of lies coming from them is mind-boggling.

I don't watch Fox or AON or Newsmax btw.

Pfiser isn't the only company who announced effective vaccine after the election. It's seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence.

I don't buy the notion that CEOs of those companies didn't know about effectiveness of their vaccines in October.

And I'm not saying it to defend Trump. I'm not his supporter, never was. I simply dislike how he became a target for spying, leaks, all kinds of fabrications and baseless accusations before he even took office. At least the Media had a blast for the past 4 years.
I would venture/wager that he is has made more fabrications and baseless accusations than he has received. If want to blame someone in the US look at the CDC. But leaders in development were all in Europe.
 

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Well, thanks for not using CNN. That's one news network that I don't take seriously for the last 20 years. The amount of lies coming from them is mind-boggling.

I don't watch Fox or AON or Newsmax btw.

Pfiser isn't the only company who announced effective vaccine after the election. It's seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence.

I don't buy the notion that CEOs of those companies didn't know about effectiveness of their vaccines in October.

And I'm not saying it to defend Trump. I'm not his supporter, never was. I simply dislike how he became a target for spying, leaks, all kinds of fabrications and baseless accusations before he even took office. At least the Media had a blast for the past 4 years.
Tom, why would Pfizer Give a Fuck about whether Trump was elected or not?

Let alone, give a fuck to the point where they would deliberately fuck him over?

Let alone, assume that the vaccine announcement would affect an election primarily fought over Trump's personality?
 

Tomoreno

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I see where a lot of you come from.

Perhaps one day is see what you see.
 

doggystyle99

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I admit, grouping Pfiser with others is an oversight on my part.
It wasn't a funding for R&D. They simply received a huge amount of money for an order of product they didn't yet have.

It doesn't take away from my original point which is conveniently ignored. In late October Pfiser still denied claims there's a vaccine on horizon and couple weeks later announced a 95% effective vaccine.

They lied! In my experience, when a company/person lies about 1 thing, it's a good indicator they have no problem with lying, so who knows what else they lied about.
BBQ
You grouping Pfizer with the others as a part of those companies who were a part of operation warp speed and receiving money for R & D is nothing other than the fact that you are very poorly educated on the subject, as usual with everything you post.
You get your news from garbage websites such as Parler, Bitchute, Fake Fox & Friends specially Sucker Carlston Trump's Frat House Fockboi, Rebel News that is why you are so wrong on every subject hency why conspiracy theories make more sense to you and you are unable to understand facts.

And yes there is quite a difference between most pharmaceutical companies like Moderna, Pfizer and J & J receiving pre orders and then some even receiving further substantial funding for R & D
Moderna receiving roughly $2.5 Billion
Or J &J receiving $1.5 Billion
Pfizer receiving $0
Of course these differences can not be seen by COVIDIOTS.
 

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Well, thanks for not using CNN. That's one news network that I don't take seriously for the last 20 years. The amount of lies coming from them is mind-boggling.

I don't watch Fox or AON or Newsmax btw.

Pfiser isn't the only company who announced effective vaccine after the election. It's seems to be too much of a convenient coincidence.

I don't buy the notion that CEOs of those companies didn't know about effectiveness of their vaccines in October.

And I'm not saying it to defend Trump. I'm not his supporter, never was. I simply dislike how he became a target for spying, leaks, all kinds of fabrications and baseless accusations before he even took office. At least the Media had a blast for the past 4 years.
Of course you don't watch CNN or Fox
You know for example someone who is got their panty in a bunch over the fact that another news channel was talking about their hero Sucker Carlson AKA Trump's Frat House Fockboi does not watch Fox.

Of course you also don't take CNN seriously for the last 20 years. Only if we know someone who is got there panty in a bunch over what CNN was reporting about their hero Sucker Carlson AKA Trump's Frat House Fockboi, does not take CNN seriously. :ROFLMAO:
 
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All "news" for the last 20 years from the right wing echo chamber, legitimate news organizations ignored for as long. This explains a whole lot. You can't make chicken salad out of chicken shit...
 

Tomoreno

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Of course you don't watch CNN or Fox
You know for example someone who is got their panty in a bunch over the fact that another news channel was talking about their hero Sucker Carlson AKA Trump's Frat House Fockboi does not watch Fox.

Of course you also don't take CNN seriously for the last 20 years. Only if we know someone who is got there panty in a bunch over what CNN was reporting about their hero Sucker Carlson AKA Trump's Frat House Fockboi, does not take CNN seriously. :ROFLMAO:
Don't even try to be a wise ass... we all know what YOU are watching

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y2kmark

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Is it just me, or is Tucker looking more like Josef Goebbels all the time. Sounds like him anyway...
 
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