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kjwright81

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hey all,

i've been on this forum for a couple months now and i follow very consistently. now i have never been with an sp but im coming really close. the only thing is that im so freaked out about stds. im worreid about kissing, bbj and daty. i know that these are all done by members with no problem, but im freaked out about getting herpes, gen warts or even worse AIDS. i guess im wondering, how do you rationalize the risk associated seeing sps? i dont even wanna imagine getting an std, at least an incurable one, from seeing an sp but i really wanna see one. :confused: . i would of course wear a hat when having intercourse but that's just one of the things. is htere anyt sort of "barrier" you can put on a women before doing some daty?



plz-enlighten me,


k
 

great bear

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Date Goober's sister, she has had so much antibiotics pumped through her system nothing grows there. :p
 

Svend

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I look at the risk as being the same as with any woman I might meet.

In fact the times when I had an opportunity to have unprotected sex were only with non escorts, which concerned me.
Glad I wasn't too loaded at those moments and could think for myself to use a condom.
 

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Svend said:
I look at the risk as being the same as with any woman I might meet.

In fact the times when I had an opportunity to have unprotected sex were only with non escorts, which concerned me.
Glad I wasn't too loaded at those moments and could think for myself to use a condom.
I used to be concerned, but less so - if everything is safe and covered risk is minimal - however I do have a few things to minimize risk:

- after the session, I wrap up the Johnson with tissue paper to make sure it doesnt come into contact with body fluid in my underwear and:
-when I take a shower I use purell liberally on the shaft and pube/scrotal area to minimize risk of any surface contact issues - then I scrub with anti-bacterial soap.

-I use clippers to keep the hair at bay - chicks usually prefer it - and it minimizes risk of "clingons"

-I prefer the SP to use lube unless she is really keen as risk of condom breakage is higher if dry etc.

- a medical person did suggest that the risk of warts is higher when going to a MP and getting a hand job - so maybe an SP in some cases is safer.

Just my 2c
 

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How do I justify the risk?

I'm 78 years old, and I just accepted a job that I can't quit till I die. Getting a STD is not the greatest of my concerns. However, I do use a condom - just don't tell anyone. :)
 

great bear

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bbking said:
Why anyone would think this was funny is beyond me.

bbk
This man is head of the Greek Orthodox Church. Do not confuse him with the Catholic Pope, who is only orthodox in his views.
 

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STDs are the reason why I rarely partake of the escort side of the hobby. Protected (i.e. "safer") sex can greatly minimise the risk. I'm not about to argue statistical analyses about whether the risk of the STD is greater or less than the risk of being killed in an automobile accident, or if sex with an informed professional escort is more or less risky than a girl picked up in a bar. I'm not comfortable with the risk so I abstain from all practices which I deem to be risky. I mostly limit my activities to strip clubs. On the rare occasion I do retain the services of an escort, I abstain from kissing and cunninlingus. I even avoid touching the escort's genetalia. I'll allow the escort to apply the condom - this is the only direct skin contact she ever has with my penis. Fellatio is always with a condom. Intercourse is either in missionary position or rear entry (also known as "doggy"). If I'm in missionary, I remain upright such that my torso is at right angles to the escort. The reason for this is so that I may observe the position of my penis at all times and that I control the depth of penetration. I never penetrate beyond the base of the condom, and contact between the scrotum and the escort is minimised. After ejaculation, I promptly withdraw and I remove the condom myself. If the session is not over, I'll apply a second condom, even if the session will involve no further intercourse. Pubic hair is trimmed very short but not shaved as the shaving may cause cuts. I also avoid escorts who are reputed to perform unsafe services and I'll prefer escorts who are regularly reported as being very safety conscious. The above precautions do reduce the sponenaity and fantasy of the act; but I'd be unable to enjoy the act without taking these precautions.
 

great bear

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Horndog said:
I believe most do, but I would NEVER do data on an escort.

So horndog, exactly what kind of data do you try and collect on sp's? :D
 

MindJohn

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Response re: STD risks

kjwright81 said:
hey all,

i've been on this forum for a couple months now and i follow very consistently. now i have never been with an sp but im coming really close. the only thing is that im so freaked out about stds. im worreid about kissing, bbj and daty. i know that these are all done by members with no problem, but im freaked out about getting herpes, gen warts or even worse AIDS. i guess im wondering, how do you rationalize the risk associated seeing sps? i dont even wanna imagine getting an std, at least an incurable one, from seeing an sp but i really wanna see one. :confused: . i would of course wear a hat when having intercourse but that's just one of the things. is htere anyt sort of "barrier" you can put on a women before doing some daty?



plz-enlighten me,


k
Hi,

I'd say that the fact that you are concerned is enough to qualify you to step into the customer side of this business while exercising sensible precautions that still allow you to have a great experience.

I can't decide which way to go about kissing an SP, although I've not yet done so. Although the mouth is the dirtiest place about the human body I don't think most of the risk are STD-like in nature. Instead simple things like colds and influenza are more of a concern when it comes to kissing anyone.

As for bbbj, I simply advise that you NOT ask for or allow such an activity on yourself. There are just too many concerns involved, and a woman who would be putting herself at risk that way probably doesn't have your best interest in mind.

With regard to oral-on-her, recently I read that those who already have oral herpes ("cold sores"), which is 75-80% of all North American society, have a much more difficult time acquiring genital herpes orally. That is because one form of "H" has a much tougher time taking root in an area where the other form of "H" already exists.

Furthermore, performing oral sex on a woman has always been a very low-risk activity in terms of STD's.

The San Francisco board of health has a useful STD risk chart that, for a long time, said there were "no known STD risks" for anyone performing oral sex on a woman.

Recently that has been modified to suggest that the only known risk is "Herpes" (that among dozens of STD's out there) and that transmissions were """rare""".

My reasonably educated opinion is that if you're interested in performing oral sex on a willing female SP, that you should go ahead without serious fear.

I hope this helps.
 

MindJohn

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one more thing

I forgot to respond to the question about the barrier for DATY.

"Saran Wrap" folded into a hand-sized square will serve as the barrier you might want to use for DATY.

The risk factors are so low that it is up to you and your chosen girl whether you use it.

Saran Wrap is so flimsy that it doesn't take away from many of the sensations, and if you want the wetness/scent on your side, then it makes sense to put one side against her, draw the flavor you desire, and then simply reverse the sheet of Saran Wrap before you continue.

Membrane-to-membrane contact is what would be the greatest risk factor in DATY, so to switch sides of the Saran Wrap in that way won't create a problem for you.
 

MuffinMuncher

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Abstention is the only 100% effective way to avoid an STD. Monogamy only works if you know where your spouse is 24/7. Virtually all forms of sex involve some degree of risk. The real question is how much risk are YOU as an individual willing to accept and then plan your sexual escapades accordingly.

But please spare us the lectures on the dangers of DATY or BBBJ. Its an individual decision, and no one single person has the right to judge another's behavior based on his own perception of risk.

However, I do agree that Goober's sister is probably the safest girl in the city. She's so sterile that doctors can use her muffin to store medical instruments. :p
 

MindJohn

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MuffinMuncher said:
But please spare us the lectures on the dangers of DATY or BBBJ. Its an individual decision, and no one single person has the right to judge another's behavior based on his own perception of risk.

The differences in the risks of those two separate activities are like the difference between night and day.

Those on either side of BBBJ are far more at-risk while partaking of such an activity than anybody could be when merely engaging in DATY.

In both situations the most dirty, unhealthy place about the human body is involved, and in one, the cleanest place about the human body is involved.

Your chances of acquiring an STD or other malady from the cleanest place about the human body, through oral sex, are indeed quite slim.

This has nothing to do with judgement. It is merely reality.
 

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Cobra1 said:
- a medical person did suggest that the risk of warts is higher when going to a MP and getting a hand job - so maybe an SP in some cases is safer.

Just my 2c
Now that I'm not 100% certain about...I think you got it mixed u p, it's monnesculum or something not warts that are more common at mps
 

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Hey kjwright81, if ya can't stand the heat...stay outta the kitchen.
There are no guarantees in life, and you shouldn't do something you are not comfortable with. It will just not be fun.
 

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There are many escorts out there who you could have a great time with while not compromising what you are uncomfortable with. Although it does add to the experience for some, you can still have a hot time without FK, DATY and BBBJ...just find a lady that can provide a killer CBJ and loves multiple positions! ;)

I am a full believer in ensuring that both the lady and the gentleman are comfortable with the acts they are involved in...I am sure if you spoke to the lady beforehand and explained what acts you are not interested in, she wouldn't have a problem.

Good luck!
 

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There are many websites available devoted to HIV/STD education. This particular one, while one of many, is nicely laid out and contains great information on HIV transmittion (including oral, anal, vaginal, etc....), HIV testing, HIV statistics (including Canada) containing data from 2003 and 2004 by category and by province. Take some time to view the website and educate yourself as much as possible for your safety and the safety of others.

http://www.avert.org/
 

great bear

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Winston said:
You have a better chance of getting into an accident on the way to the appointment, then getting an STD from an educated professional sex worker.

Personally, I would be more worried about the secretary at the office.
So Winston can she at least type?
 
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