Star Trek: Picard

[Insidious Von]

The writing of this series is abysmal and caters to the “neo-nerd” jock audience who possess absolutely no scientific literacy. The central conflict of the series, the Romulan evacuation, is laughable: an “emergency” supernova? How exactly does that work when even a relatively primitive society can predict the lifecycle of a star tens of thousands of years in advance? Some may find this entertaining but it sure isn’t Star Trek by any stretch of the imagination. Like the last three films and Discovery, this is action schlock with a Star Trek coat of paint on it.

Nonsense, most of what Gene Roddenberry did was science fantasy, with just enough science fiction and an optimistic message to grow an audience. The whole notion of traveling at warp speed, or traveling at parsecs is an impossibility and so far no life beyond Earth has been found. Roddenberry was extremely astute, he took what HG Wells had already laid out, modernizing and at the same time extending it. Most of the Star Trek films aren't any good, one - The Final frontier, may have broken Roddenberry's spirit. There are exceptions, The Voyage Home was perhaps the best science fiction film and First Contact was hugely entertaining. Apart from that most of them are forgettable. And they're still between than Star Wars, a franchise with a fascist future within a never ending intergalactic Civil War.

Here is Star Trek (Original Series) S1 E27 (The Alternate Factor) as explained by the lovely Physics Girl.

 

[jcpro]

Why was the TNG so popular(beside the cast, writing, etc.)? Each episode(with few exceptions) reached a resolution of the story by its end, the characters were developed and Stewart was a member of a multi faceted and stable cast. Here, the story is moving very slowly, beside Picard and the android girl, the characters are either forgettable or cameos. It's a completely different approach with holes in the story line, unfamiliar sets and the general "feel" too far removed from the TNG and its spin offs. It's kind of a mess, actually. Stewart should have done this role 10 years ago and with a better story line. This is as much of a disappointment as the last X-Men movie with an old and sick character played by Stewart. 5/10

 

[nottyboi]

I think Picard is disappointing. The dialogue is so boring OMG. That dude with the sword is total loser. Everyone he helps dies. I will watch it hoping for a great battle but the build up is so slow and boring

 

[Nathan 88]

I just watched E8, anyone that says it's boring hasn't seen it.

7 of fuckin 9 becomes Locutus II. We are Borg, resistance is futile.

I haven’t gotten that far in the series yet but I’m going to keep watching. I hope it gets better like you say it is but I really have my doubts.
Picard was my favourite and the best captain out of all the Star Trek series and this would be a sad way for him to go out if the series does not get any better.

 

[Insidious Von]

 

[Insidious Von]

Also sorry, I have to be a dick here. A parsec is a measure of distance, not speed. I think this is revelatory of your level of scientific literacy and why you can’t see the fundamental difference between old Trek and new Trek.

It's ok to be a dick, I've been a testone with you. A parsec can mean both, it's measured as 1 P = 3.26 light years and the angle of the Earth's rotation per mean radius (a had to look up the later). Star Trek got darker with time, The Borg were not meant to exist in Roddenberry's original vision. The episode that gave TNG legs was Conspiracy,it was downright chilling. Star Fleet Command being infiltrated by an alien parasite.

 

[VERYBADBOY]

Sorry just getting caught up on the episodes and this thread that I avoided until now so here are my thoughts not in any order:

1) It's a 1 season series based to close the chapter on Picard given his health condition, so I'm going to allow some leeway but still ahhhh
2) Romulans with British accents fuck me, Nemisis 2
3) Romulan named Elnor... more like Elron the Elf and he's wielding a sword as well, raised by female assassins?
4) you had me at Tal Shair ... now there's Zhat Vash another more secretive society and it's all run by women at the top. Okay who's making up this shit?
5) 7 of 9 looks hot, like the ranger angle and her dark side
6) Before I miss this ... IVon ... Wrath of Khan !!!
7) When Number One gets involved it's always a Number 2 !!!
8) Luis the pilot should put that feather up his butt
9) The Doctor who comes along and kills Maddox weak character
10) Hugh was short lived ... not going to get into the Borg mistakes bad writing.

Okay 10 for now.

The reason we loved TNG was because there was a vacuum that needed to be filled so we took what we could get, anything really, it was great at times but also corny but be fell in love with it without being the critic. Later when the spinoff shows started we got flooded more inundated with more Star Trek than we needed and thus returned the criticism.

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[james t kirk]

It's new age science fiction and I'm not sure I'm a fan.

But as to Picard, it started out slow, perhaps even weak, but it has really picked up steam in the last few episodes. (I have not seen last Thursday's yet.)

I'm getting more into it, it's better than discovery (and I know that that is not saying too much). But it may be a case of I WANT to like this show because I loved TOS and TNG. Picard was always the coolest captain and Patrick Stewart was extraordinary in the role.

 

[hamermill]

It was kind of sad to see a Borg cube being destroyed by 3 flowers. I can’t wait to download tomorrow’s season finale and then binge watch it again.

Next Year I’m going to wait until the season is over because it was painful to have to wait a week to see what happens.

 

[Nathan 88]

It was kind of sad to see a Borg cube being destroyed by 3 flowers. I can’t wait to download tomorrow’s season finale and then binge watch it again.

Next Year I’m going to wait until the season is over because it was painful to have to wait a week to see what happens.

I doubt there’s going to be a next year for this series.

 

[anon1]

I like it.
Stewart is a great actor and this was tailor made for him.
An aged and dying man seeking to rectify his past failures to come to terms with his mortality.

 

[Insidious Von]

I felt the same about Star Wars but the Mandalorian gives me hope for the future of that franchise.

Disney will take a bloody nose for kissing Mao Princelings ass, Mulan is going to bomb hard.

Whether Picard will continue depends on Stewart's health, Al Pacino is older than him and he just kicked of a series for Netflix (correct me if I'm wrong) called Hunters. I don't share your sentiment for the original films, 2 and 3 were great, the rest so so. The Final Frontier was hookey, it probably crushed Roddenberry's spirit. The Great Shat and Christopher Plummer were enjoying themselves in The Undiscovered Country, they are lifelong friends.

The Great Shat said his most famous line in that film.

 

[Insidious Von]

I barely remember The Motion Picture, haven't watched it again, much prefer Chekov's nuclear wessel.

Patrick Stewart should have waited till Nemesis was made before announcing he would no longer play Picard, the film bombed and the 25 year old Tom Hardy nearly OD'ed.

...and he had to wear a Patrick Stewart novelty nose.

 

[hamermill]

I doubt there’s going to be a next year for this series.

OMG just finished watching the season finale. The Borg is indeed a superior race and who would have thought Seven of Nine could be so vicious. She is revealed as the new Borg Queen. Picard was in fact never stopped being a Borg; the machine part has been dormant. I guess because the show is aired on CBS paid access explains the degree of violence and carnage. If there isn’t a season 2 that would suck big time.

 

[hamermill]

OMG just finished watching the season finale. The Borg is indeed a superior race and who would have thought Seven of Nine could be so vicious. She is revealed as the new Borg Queen. Picard was in fact never stopped being a Borg; the machine part has been dormant. I guess because the show is aired on CBS paid access explains the degree of violence and carnage. If there isn’t a season 2 that would suck big time.

Just kidding...

 

[Butler1000]

Patrick Stewart already confirmed season two is happening (when due to Covid-19 is another matter).

He confirmed it when he personally invited Whoopie to reprise her role as Guinan on the View.

CBS knows they have to add content to their streaming service. Star Trek is their flagship.

Expect a 7 of 9 series spinoff.

 

[VERYBADBOY]

Patrick Stewart already confirmed season two is happening (when due to Covid-19 is another matter).

He confirmed it when he personally invited Whoopie to reprise her role as Guinan on the View.

CBS knows they have to add content to their streaming service. Star Trek is their flagship.

Expect a 7 of 9 series spinoff.

Hmm, thought I heard it was one season but did a search and it could be 3 seasons
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...rd-renewed-season-2-at-cbs-all-access-1268720

Space is having a Picard marathon starting at 11:30am today leading to the finale tonight

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[Robert Mugabe]

This thread is an eye opener. Now fully understand why some of you can't get laid.

 

[Butler1000]

This thread is an eye opener. Now fully understand why some of you can't get laid.

As opposed to what? Sitting in yer ass watching sports? Knowing the stats to impress the females with?

It is possible to enjoy geek and get laid. Feel free to visit the Sci Fi Cons sometime. I got way more action there than attending a Blue Jays game.

 

[Insidious Von]

This thread is an eye opener. Now fully understand why some of you can't get laid.

Robo, nerds rule the world, resistance is futile.

And 7 has always been a badass, I would kiss her butt with gay abandon.

If ya smell what 7 is cookin!