SPs would you date
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Yes, sp's are open to dating clients, I'm getting laid like a rockstar, and Pluto's still a planet.
But seriously, sp's have like zero attraction for their clients. Even if the dude's hot or w/e, just the fact that he has to pay for it in the beginning would be extremely off-putting (and yes, we all have to pay in a way, but you know what I mean).
Women don't date down; they won't even date someone on their level.
But seriously, sp's have like zero attraction for their clients. Even if the dude's hot or w/e, just the fact that he has to pay for it in the beginning would be extremely off-putting (and yes, we all have to pay in a way, but you know what I mean).
Women don't date down; they won't even date someone on their level.
I would like to know because I have a unique ....
situation. I met a girl on P.O.F. She asked for a sugar daddy type situation. Get together for the day .... about 7 hrs , have sex ( about 2 hrs).... go to do something & dinner ..... give her $200. Did that 2xs. She has another guy like this for about a year . Says although she finds both of us sexually attractive she would not date the other guy.... just friends. I did not want to come out & ask right away about dating..... she in general , says doesn't want to get tied down. She & I, as she noted, have much more in common than the other guy & she also said she would sleep over at my place but not the other guy she has known for a year. Soooo I am also wondering....... she says she doesn't see me as a client. To tell you the truth ...... she doesn't even see herself as an sp nor has she worked in such a way. Though if a girl collects any sort of money is she not an sp or ( very semi-pro) ...... & did I not pay ..... like a client. Soooo would there be a possibility for her to see us on a personal level to date?
situation. I met a girl on P.O.F. She asked for a sugar daddy type situation. Get together for the day .... about 7 hrs , have sex ( about 2 hrs).... go to do something & dinner ..... give her $200. Did that 2xs. She has another guy like this for about a year . Says although she finds both of us sexually attractive she would not date the other guy.... just friends. I did not want to come out & ask right away about dating..... she in general , says doesn't want to get tied down. She & I, as she noted, have much more in common than the other guy & she also said she would sleep over at my place but not the other guy she has known for a year. Soooo I am also wondering....... she says she doesn't see me as a client. To tell you the truth ...... she doesn't even see herself as an sp nor has she worked in such a way. Though if a girl collects any sort of money is she not an sp or ( very semi-pro) ...... & did I not pay ..... like a client. Soooo would there be a possibility for her to see us on a personal level to date?
LexingtonJeremy said:
yes the double standard. some sp's think it's easy to get 'free' pussy, that you can just go to a nightclub pick one up and take them home. it's because they're the ones that will freely go home with a guy from a club. so many non sp girls have that one ugly friend who gets jealous and does not let you take the girl home etc.
anyway so far I have met only 1 smart sp who said "men have to pay regardless"
also don't forget that some sp's want to meet and date guys who they will not tell that they are sp's...
I'll come clean. I have dated 3 SPs since I started this hobby. First one was a Russian, next two were Canadian. Well truth be told, these were GFs, technically I dated more.
Despite what everyone says about Russians dating up, she was the only one without a princess attitude (there's a difference between class and crass) and she went back to school and completed a degree. Plus she so much more pragmatic about her finances and she has goals for her future. We're still very good friends (with benefits). Plus she met my family and I have met hers. In fact I have met several Russian SPs and their friends and family through her. Great people, great food and great vodka! Even better sex.
The second was/is well known, but is in a 'related' biz and most if not all her clients are American now. Last one's still in the biz. Still friends with the second one tho she's jaded about men and sex now. With the last one, I 'lost out' to another client, so I was told. I traveled extensively with all three of them. Neither of the last two have met my family or friends (red flag) and were very, very reticent to do so, have me meet their family and friends.. Both are also terrible with their finances and both have drug issues (red flag 2 and 3). Regardless had great times and good memories with both, since they were much more adventurous.
SPs do date their clients. Initially for a fee and then just like any other civilian.
Despite what everyone says about Russians dating up, she was the only one without a princess attitude (there's a difference between class and crass) and she went back to school and completed a degree. Plus she so much more pragmatic about her finances and she has goals for her future. We're still very good friends (with benefits). Plus she met my family and I have met hers. In fact I have met several Russian SPs and their friends and family through her. Great people, great food and great vodka! Even better sex.
The second was/is well known, but is in a 'related' biz and most if not all her clients are American now. Last one's still in the biz. Still friends with the second one tho she's jaded about men and sex now. With the last one, I 'lost out' to another client, so I was told. I traveled extensively with all three of them. Neither of the last two have met my family or friends (red flag) and were very, very reticent to do so, have me meet their family and friends.. Both are also terrible with their finances and both have drug issues (red flag 2 and 3). Regardless had great times and good memories with both, since they were much more adventurous.
SPs do date their clients. Initially for a fee and then just like any other civilian.
"But seriously, sp's have like zero attraction for their clients."
My experiences have indicated quite the opposite. In fact, situations where the sp's attraction has required me to either 1) end the connection with her or 2) explore whether I share the same attraction/feelings. Have never gone expecting it, am just an average guy, but have been very fortunate to have attracted the non-business attention of a couple of sps over the years.
My experiences have indicated quite the opposite. In fact, situations where the sp's attraction has required me to either 1) end the connection with her or 2) explore whether I share the same attraction/feelings. Have never gone expecting it, am just an average guy, but have been very fortunate to have attracted the non-business attention of a couple of sps over the years.
What do you consider a date? I've met with an SP I know quite well for coffee and conversation, without any FS taking place or $ exchanging hands, does that count?
I am thinking most are implying......
a non paying sexual relationship. Who makes it change to that level ?? ..... sp, client ...... I am thinking if client ..... sp will be put off .... & it will fail. How long usuually before an sp would deside to take it to that level?
a non paying sexual relationship. Who makes it change to that level ?? ..... sp, client ...... I am thinking if client ..... sp will be put off .... & it will fail. How long usuually before an sp would deside to take it to that level?
I don't think that there is a straight answer one can give. It would all be dependent on mutual attraction, and there is no telling how long that could take, if at all.
I had a gentleman come see me as a client a few months ago, he had seen my add on pof, researched me, discovered what I was doing and made an appointment to come see me on a professional level. We were talking and he told me all this, I asked him what he was looking for on pof, turns out we wanted the same things and are still seeing each other on a purely personal level now. I was impressed that he chose to meet me this way as he was telling me he was cool with what I do and still considered me someone worth getting to know.
I think a lot of the reason 'we' do not date clients is because the majority of the time they simply want 'us' for sex,,,,,,sp's are people too, we want intimacy, respect and yes, love even. My personal rule is "if you cannot be seen in public with me then I am not going to 'see' you in private".
I think a lot of the reason 'we' do not date clients is because the majority of the time they simply want 'us' for sex,,,,,,sp's are people too, we want intimacy, respect and yes, love even. My personal rule is "if you cannot be seen in public with me then I am not going to 'see' you in private".
People just meet in different ways now with the advent of the internet and other types of social gatherings (clubs, speed dating, etc.) so is it really hard to believe an SP could fall for someone at their workplace especially considering how intimate the setting is? An SP would certainly get to evaluate a pretty personal but important aspect of dating in a session.
I think this topic emphasizes how tough SPing can be on a gal. Physically, it's obvious but the strain and stress of having to deal with these types of emotions between the ears and in the chest can definitely drive people to vices like drugs, alcohol, etc.
I think this topic emphasizes how tough SPing can be on a gal. Physically, it's obvious but the strain and stress of having to deal with these types of emotions between the ears and in the chest can definitely drive people to vices like drugs, alcohol, etc.
Since my answer to the question is requested: no, I wouldn't date a client, for many personal reasons which I don't feel like sharing here.Davy.Biggie said:Someone call Gen in here.
In addition to those personal reasons, I'm just not interested in doing the work it would take to successfully transform an SP/client relationship into a romantic relationship. If someone met me as Genevieve and grew found of me as Genevieve, no matter how much I also like him and enjoy his company, it's going to take work for both of us to adjust to a relationship where Genevieve is being replaced by the "real me". Genevieve is a fantasy: someone who of course is not completely unrelated to the "real me", but basically a fantasy, ideal version of the "real me". The "real me" is not always smiling, nice, and caring, she doesn't always want to have sex, she doesn't shave on her days off, she can be high maintenance and bitchy, she's often stressed out, she's not always willing to cater to her partner's every desires and needs, and she has needs of her own that she expects to be catered to as well. Basically, she's human, not a fantasy of a woman like Genevieve is.
I like my romantic relationship to be uncomplicated, simple, easy (as much as human relationships can be): starting one from an SP/client relationship is not my idea of an uncomplicated, simple, and easy start.
I have to say something and I guess it's because I feel the need to speak my mind on this.
We're all human, SP's or hobbyists alike, and we have human emotions and form human bonds.
Whether it be attraction of body or mind it can happen. Perfect example is when I decided to date a woman knowing she was a dancer. That opened me up to a few other dancers and one in particular who I got to know as a friend and we ended up together. I had to let her go because she had an opportunity in NYC to follow her dream to be a model. She refused to go while we were together romantically. It does happen.
That being said SP's have a difficult job. They have intimate access to the people they provide service to. For the most part men who do hobby end up talking openly with the SP and that openness can lead to a difficult situation for the SP. How they are able to keep professional is a testament to the difficulty of their chosen field.
How difficult it has to be for an SP to decide if the person they know from sessions is genuine. How hard it must be if they are attracted to that person in any way. How do they judge if the person they are attracted to will be willing to accept them and their chosen profession as well as provide a loving and caring relationship? These women have it real tough when you look at it from their position.
Just my 2¢.
We're all human, SP's or hobbyists alike, and we have human emotions and form human bonds.
Whether it be attraction of body or mind it can happen. Perfect example is when I decided to date a woman knowing she was a dancer. That opened me up to a few other dancers and one in particular who I got to know as a friend and we ended up together. I had to let her go because she had an opportunity in NYC to follow her dream to be a model. She refused to go while we were together romantically. It does happen.
That being said SP's have a difficult job. They have intimate access to the people they provide service to. For the most part men who do hobby end up talking openly with the SP and that openness can lead to a difficult situation for the SP. How they are able to keep professional is a testament to the difficulty of their chosen field.
How difficult it has to be for an SP to decide if the person they know from sessions is genuine. How hard it must be if they are attracted to that person in any way. How do they judge if the person they are attracted to will be willing to accept them and their chosen profession as well as provide a loving and caring relationship? These women have it real tough when you look at it from their position.
Just my 2¢.
genintoronto said:
hmmmm I think I met the real genie on one of our dates lol
(runs and hides under his desk now lololol)
(I was kiddding really I am, genie is great!)
