All feminists don't believe the same thing. Some believe escorting is liberating for women. Others believe it isn't. Opinions vary...MrLuvr said:
Hey, don't take what I said to be that a woman HAS to sleep with everyone. Of course we all make choices on who we date/do/befriend and the reasons to do them or not. But IMHO everyone (men and women alike) are too busy looking for reasons NOT to date/do/befriend someone.
Has it been posted yet as to what the bumpersticker said? I'm really curious as to the reason...
BTW: as for the guy who had his wife and kids outside in the car: Maybe mom was one of those women who no longer has any interest in sex and is all for her husband using the services of an sp. There's been a few on this board in that situation over the years....IMHO this is no different than a woman making her husband wait while she goes and a) get's her nails done b) get's her hair done (and boy, have I encountered THAT lol) and c) gets a massage.
Has it been posted yet as to what the bumpersticker said? I'm really curious as to the reason...
BTW: as for the guy who had his wife and kids outside in the car: Maybe mom was one of those women who no longer has any interest in sex and is all for her husband using the services of an sp. There's been a few on this board in that situation over the years....IMHO this is no different than a woman making her husband wait while she goes and a) get's her nails done b) get's her hair done (and boy, have I encountered THAT lol) and c) gets a massage.
No, I don't have a huge problem with fur, so that's not a good example. If I really had a major problem with a client's political or social beliefs, I could still do business with them. I just wouldn't want to associate with them socially or in any forum other than strictly business.tboy said:
Yeah, all feminist think alike. Like it must be all gays think alike, all Chinese think alike, all accountants think alike, all Liberals etc...Aren't labels are great to simplify the complexities of life?MrLuvr said:
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hey Mr. LuvR
sorry about the delayed reply. i forgot about this thread.
I am not victimized by men. That is not to say that some sexworkers aren't, but people in all fields can be victimized by clients. try being a female real estate agent(done it). that is dangerous.
Of course there are as many diverse views among feminists as there are feminists. I exist in a time and in a culture where this is one of the areas of employment where a female can make some good cash and still have time to volunteer for a rape crisis line or be a rep for CARAL (abortion rights).
My being a hooker doesn't hurt other women, and it certainly doesn't hurt men.
As a feminist I feel no conflict about being a HO.
sorry about the delayed reply. i forgot about this thread.
As a feminist I am an advocate of female autonomy. I think I should be able to enter into any business or activity that I choose. As long as I am old enuf and I am not hurting anyone this choice should be my option.
I am not victimized by men. That is not to say that some sexworkers aren't, but people in all fields can be victimized by clients. try being a female real estate agent(done it). that is dangerous.
Of course there are as many diverse views among feminists as there are feminists. I exist in a time and in a culture where this is one of the areas of employment where a female can make some good cash and still have time to volunteer for a rape crisis line or be a rep for CARAL (abortion rights).
My being a hooker doesn't hurt other women, and it certainly doesn't hurt men.
As a feminist I feel no conflict about being a HO.
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is there any way to tell at a glance which threads you have participated in and which threads you have already read???
If not there should be.
If not there should be.
hi, newbie here..
yes, I have refused service....after I took him to the washroom and suggested that maybe we freshen up together...he said no..I'm good...I said nicely...really I think you might want to...HE got all pissed at me!! said he wasn't paying me for a bath!! LOL....
anyway, I left!! I could still smell him....I had to go home and shower!! ewwwwww
hmmmm, maybe that's why his wife won't sleep with him...lol
yes, I have refused service....after I took him to the washroom and suggested that maybe we freshen up together...he said no..I'm good...I said nicely...really I think you might want to...HE got all pissed at me!! said he wasn't paying me for a bath!! LOL....
anyway, I left!! I could still smell him....I had to go home and shower!! ewwwwww
hmmmm, maybe that's why his wife won't sleep with him...lol
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god, i can smell him from here.
I think that is the #1 reason I have heard in real life for escorts refusing calls.
I think that is the #1 reason I have heard in real life for escorts refusing calls.
feminista said:
Ok, I am speechless.... no one else asked about this one? Feminista, please, please elaborate for us....
Well...there was this one guy...
I was supposed to be doing a weekend with this fellow, and he was one of those guys who really, really wanted you to know he had tons of money which, in my experience, actually means they live in a refrigerator box and jacked a 7-11 on the way over; but I digress. So anyways, buddy wants to go to the Keg downtown, which is fine, and I tell him it's really close by so we can just walk over.
But no. A dude with so much money takes cabs. Always! Maybe even to the bathroom. So we jump in the cab, and are in it for max two minutes and the driver pulls up to the place.
So what does Mr. Rich and Refined do? Wads up a twenty and bounces it off the driver, saying, "Well! I see you got yourself a real good tip, huh?"
Later, I told him I just didn't think it was working out, and offered him back the money for the second night that hadn't happened yet. "No!" he says, "it's not about the money!" I said , are you sure? "Yes!" he cried, wealthily. So I said, "Fine, bye."
Not sure he was expecting that...
I was supposed to be doing a weekend with this fellow, and he was one of those guys who really, really wanted you to know he had tons of money which, in my experience, actually means they live in a refrigerator box and jacked a 7-11 on the way over; but I digress. So anyways, buddy wants to go to the Keg downtown, which is fine, and I tell him it's really close by so we can just walk over.
But no. A dude with so much money takes cabs. Always! Maybe even to the bathroom. So we jump in the cab, and are in it for max two minutes and the driver pulls up to the place.
So what does Mr. Rich and Refined do? Wads up a twenty and bounces it off the driver, saying, "Well! I see you got yourself a real good tip, huh?"
Later, I told him I just didn't think it was working out, and offered him back the money for the second night that hadn't happened yet. "No!" he says, "it's not about the money!" I said , are you sure? "Yes!" he cried, wealthily. So I said, "Fine, bye."
Not sure he was expecting that...
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Money dosn't buy manners or class. Had a laugh at your story, wish he was a local terb member to hear how low his mouth dropped at losing you.Vancouver Femme Fatale said:
Yes.
For what ever reason turns me off.
I have been 15-20 mintues in call and something is not right, smell, attitude, bumps in the wrong places, whatever the reason and I have return their money and left or asked them to leave.
We may be product, but we are product with a mind and a heart, so refusals will happen.
HH
For what ever reason turns me off.
I have been 15-20 mintues in call and something is not right, smell, attitude, bumps in the wrong places, whatever the reason and I have return their money and left or asked them to leave.
We may be product, but we are product with a mind and a heart, so refusals will happen.
HH
15-20 minutes of your time and you refund money if he suddenly doesnt smell right? Now that is unusual. Ive heard of the session ending early for that reason but never followed by refund.
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hey happy,
i really don't consider myself product anymore than i consider him cash.
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vancouver,
i once walked out on a rich semi-celebrity after he said this would be the best thing that would ever happen to me.
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luv4,
he was 22 and cute. maybe they had a fight. we didn't talk much. I was afraid to make any noise. another girl had got bashed in the head with a 2 by 4 the week before from a wife who wandered in at 2am.
i really don't consider myself product anymore than i consider him cash.
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vancouver,
i once walked out on a rich semi-celebrity after he said this would be the best thing that would ever happen to me.
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luv4,
when i arrived he was standing in the driveway. i went in and saw her sleeping on the couch. he said it was his passed out room-mate. we went in the bedroom where i saw their wedding picture. i said OMG that's your wife out there and he said "lets hurry". so we did.
he was 22 and cute. maybe they had a fight. we didn't talk much. I was afraid to make any noise. another girl had got bashed in the head with a 2 by 4 the week before from a wife who wandered in at 2am.
Luckily, I have never had an sp run away screaming upon seeing me open the door. I will go as far as to say I generally have had pretty good luck when it comes to sp's. I don't hit it off grandly with every single one of them, but usually the session goes smoothly and I don't think either party has any complaints.
I am oftentimes entertained and then frankly bewildered when I hear sp horror stories about hobbyists. It just seems incomprehensible to me that some men could be clueless. I have often commented that the things your mother taught you--cleanliness, courtesy, respectfulness--very simple things, really, go a long way with anyone, and sp's are no exception. I am sure there are some not so great sp's. Thieves, liars, con artists, what have you. But I've run into maybe one ever. One out of literally hundreds. So, whenever I read about how so and so sp was horrible, I am inclined, more often than not, to believe the bad situation had more to do with him than with her.
And so, my theory is... I think some men simply believe that because they are paying for it, they can act and do whatever they want, and treat the sp however they want. And if the sp doesn't like it, it's her problem. I have no other explanation for such bad client behavior.
I am oftentimes entertained and then frankly bewildered when I hear sp horror stories about hobbyists. It just seems incomprehensible to me that some men could be clueless. I have often commented that the things your mother taught you--cleanliness, courtesy, respectfulness--very simple things, really, go a long way with anyone, and sp's are no exception. I am sure there are some not so great sp's. Thieves, liars, con artists, what have you. But I've run into maybe one ever. One out of literally hundreds. So, whenever I read about how so and so sp was horrible, I am inclined, more often than not, to believe the bad situation had more to do with him than with her.
And so, my theory is... I think some men simply believe that because they are paying for it, they can act and do whatever they want, and treat the sp however they want. And if the sp doesn't like it, it's her problem. I have no other explanation for such bad client behavior.
