Speeding Ticket

[A-ROD]

Got stopped yesterday near Rochester NY by a State Trooper. Said he clocked me at 83 mph in a 65. He reduced it to 78. All he gave me was a form to fill in and mail. No $$ amount. How does this work, do I mail it in then they send me the bill? I am from Ontario.
BTW: I don't think I should be fined as I had my SO with me and got 15 minutes of I told you so's. Lucky he didn't stop me a mile or 2 earlier as I was going significantly faster. Can anyone enlighten me as to how it works in NY State?

 

[Judas H]

This happened to me seven years ago, I never did send the ticket in. So far nothing has ever happened. I was expecting a fine in the mail or a problem when I renewed my drivers license but it didn't happen.

I wonder how long New York keeps these tickets on file?

 

[ham2004]

Could get a nasty surprise..

You could get a nasty little surprise the next time you are in the states. What that notice is is a request to set a court date. Failure to file that little piece of paper could land you in a whole lot of hot water. Sometimes you get away with it but other times, ouch...

You could be looking at some serious (yes, serious) jail time if the cops pick you up again. The judge or JP can impose up to a 2 year jail term for failure to respond. That is on top of the hefty fines they can inflict. They don't always do this, but can, and will if you get the wrong cop on the wrong day. Also with increased border security, chances are that you could be denied boarding at the airport, or crossing at a international border point. NY is one of the hardest states when it comes to "penalities".

Just my two cents, read about it at the ny state trooper site on the web.

 

[A-ROD]

You could get a nasty little surprise the next time you are in the states. What that notice is is a request to set a court date. Failure to file that little piece of paper could land you in a whole lot of hot water. Sometimes you get away with it but other times, ouch...

You could be looking at some serious (yes, serious) jail time if the cops pick you up again. The judge or JP can impose up to a 2 year jail term for failure to respond. That is on top of the hefty fines they can inflict. They don't always do this, but can, and will if you get the wrong cop on the wrong day. Also with increased border security, chances are that you could be denied boarding at the airport, or crossing at a international border point. NY is one of the hardest states when it comes to "penalities".

Just my two cents, read about it at the ny state trooper site on the web.

Thanks for the info. I want to pay the fine but I don't understand the procedure. In Ontario we get a ticket with the amount on it. I can pay or fight the ticket. I don't want to drive to Rochester to go to court. If I send it the form and mark guilty do they send me a bill, that is what I want to know.

 

[misty]

why not call the # on the ticket and find out?

 

[JJicq]

Hopefully you were

not on your cell phone too and talking without a hands free device.

I got busted for that a couple years back. Tropper jumped from behind the Tool booth and wrote me up.. not sure how we from out of State know that NY is a Hands free requirmeent for cell phones. No signs anyplace warning travelers.

 

[BiggieE]

In NYS...You send the summons to the address on the back....Make sure you fill in the appropriate plea....Guilty or not Guilty....They will send it back to you with your fine and surcharges....You send the fine back to them....either a money order or a cashiers or bank check....no personal checks....Then they will send you back a reciept, indicating that your fine has been paid in full...I believe in New York State, the keep open traffic tickets on the books for 10 years....if you get busted again.....HooBoy......hehe...I know a guy that this happend to.....he also had an expired license...He was fined $1500, and had to do 100 hours of community service, which for him wound up being Highway maintenence....yup.....picking up garbage and dead things by the road....Being you are Canadian, they would likely be tougher if you don't send your summons in in a timely manner...the old "not on my highways" thing....I set my cruise on the Thruway at 75 mph. Have'nt had a problem in a couple of years....

 

[papasmerf]

Send in the forms
pay the fine sent back at ya

We need the money.

 

[papasmerf]

not on your cell phone too and talking without a hands free device.

I got busted for that a couple years back. Tropper jumped from behind the Tool booth and wrote me up.. not sure how we from out of State know that NY is a Hands free requirmeent for cell phones. No signs anyplace warning travelers.

Being ignorent of the law is no excuse.

But you scould have gone to court to fight the fine. Was Fifty Dollays last i checked and no points.

 

[pony123]

Traffic Violations Bureau



INTRODUCTION

If you are issued a ticket for a non-criminal moving traffic violation in the five boroughs of New York City, Buffalo, Rochester or the towns of Babylon, Brookhaven, Huntington, Islip, or Smithtown in Suffolk County, it will be handled by a New York State Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV) Traffic Violations Bureau (TVB). This allows courts in these areas to concentrate on criminal cases, including driving offenses, such as driving while intoxicated and driving while suspended or revoked (aggravated unlicensed operation). However, TVBs do not handle parking violations.

If you plead not guilty to a traffic ticket in one of these TVB areas, your case will be heard by a DMV Administrative Law Judge (ALJ), an experienced attorney with special training in the Vehicle and Traffic Law. An ALJ has the authority to decide whether or not you are guilty and to set a fine if you are found guilty. An ALJ also has the authority to revoke or suspend your driver license and/or auto registration when required by law or when the ALJ believes it is in the interest of traffic safety.

Just as in traffic courts in other areas of the state, you may present witnesses and evidence at a hearing before an ALJ and be represented by an attorney.

IF YOU ARE ISSUED A TICKET

Don't delay! Follow the instructions on the ticket for the plea you wish to make, and act promptly.

If you don't answer the ticket in the time allowed, your driver license will be suspended. Later, you could be found guilty of the charge because of your failure to respond (a default conviction). Your license would be suspended for not paying the fine and a judgment would be entered against you.

Driving with a suspended license is a crime. A felony conviction may result in fines of up to $5,000, jail, probation, or confiscation of your vehicle. As the number of suspensions you have increases, the penalties also increase. A driver is suspended for each ticket not answered and each fine not paid.

To Plead Not Guilty - Read the "not guilty" instructions and check the "not guilty" box on the back of the ticket. Fill in the requested information, sign it, and, within 15 days of the recorded violation date, mail the ticket to the Albany address listed. DMV will send you a letter telling you when and where to go for your hearing. If you are hearing impaired and require an interpreter, include a request for one when you mail your not guilty plea. An interpreter will be assigned to your hearing at no charge to you.

ATTEND YOUR HEARING

Hearings are open to the public. You may go to any TVB office to watch hearings so you know what to expect at yours.

To Plead Guilty - Read the instructions and check the "guilty" box on the back of the ticket. Fill in the requested information, sign it and, within 15 days, either mail it with your payment to the Albany address listed on the ticket or bring your payment to any TVB office. You may pay the fine and surcharge by Visa or Mastercard, or by a check or money order payable to the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles. Include the total fines and surcharges listed on the ticket for your violation(s).

You may not plead guilty by mail if the charge against you will result in license or registration suspension or revocation upon conviction (such as driving without insurance or a third speeding violation within 18 months). If you plead guilty to such a charge by mail, you will be notified that you must go to the TVB to answer the charge in person.

Your Address - If your mailing address is different from the address written on the front of the ticket, please write the correct mailing address in the space provided on the back of the ticket.

 

[pony123]

TO POSTPONE YOUR HEARING
You may request your traffic ticket hearing to be postponed and rescheduled to a different date. For the ticket's first postponement, the appropriate TVB must receive your request by mail at least 10 days before the date of the scheduled hearing. You may also make your postponement request in person at that office or by telephone at least one day before your hearing date. If it would be a second or subsequent postponement for the same ticket, your request must be made in person at the appropriate TVB office at least one day before your hearing date. Your request for a second or subsequent postponement also must include a "good cause," which is the reason you want the hearing rescheduled. Your "good cause" is subject to approval by a TVB Administrative Law Judge.

For a traffic ticket issued within New York City: Mail your request to the Albany, NY, address on your ticket - the office must receive your request at least ten days before the date of your scheduled hearing. You also may make your request in person at any TVB office in New York City, or telephone the TVB at (718)-488-5710, at least one day before the date of your scheduled hearing.

For a traffic ticket to be answered to a TVB outside New York City: Mail your request to the TVB office indicated on your ticket. The office must receive your request at least ten days before the scheduled hearing date. You also may make your request in person to that TVB office or by telephone at least one day before the date of your scheduled hearing



WHAT HAPPENS AT YOUR HEARING
You are considered innocent of the charge against you unless you are proven guilty at your hearing. You cannot be found guilty unless there is "clear and convincing evidence" that you committed the violation.

If you find it hard to understand English, you may bring someone to help you. Tell the ALJ, before the hearing starts, that someone who speaks your native language and English is there to interpret.

The ALJ will listen to sworn testimony from the police officer, who will explain why you were given the ticket. Then, you or your attorney may ask the officer questions. You also may bring witnesses to testify for you and written evidence. The judge may ask witnesses questions to better understand their testimony.

You do not have to testify but you may if you wish. You cannot be found guilty just because you do not testify.

When all on the evidence and testimony have been given, the ALJ will decide whether or not you are guilty. That decision will be based only on the evidence and testimony presented at the hearing and what the law states. If the ALJ decides the charge against you was not proven by clear and convincing evidence, you will be found not guilty. If the charge is proven and you are found guilty, the judge will set a fine. Your license or registration also may be suspended or revoked, depending on the violation and your overall driving record.



APPEALS
If you believe the ALJ's decision was incorrect based on the facts and the law, you may file an appeal. Appeal forms are available at TVB offices. Read the instructions carefully. If you wish, your attorney may help you file the appeal. Remember to include a check or money order for the appeal fees listed on the form, payable to the Commissioner of Motor Vehicles. An appeal must be filed within 30 days of the decision, and the appeal form and fees must be sent to:

Appeals Processing Unit
DMV
P.O. Box 2935
Albany, N.Y. 12220-0935

 

[pony123]

PARKING AND PEDESTRIAN VIOLATIONS
The State Department of Motor Vehicles Traffic Violations Bureaus do not handle parking tickets or violations by pedestrians. These are usually handled by a local parking violations bureau or court.



LICENSE SUSPENSION AND REVOCATION
The most common reasons your license may be suspended or revoked due to motor vehicle violations follow. Remember, your license also will be suspended if you do not answer a ticket or pay a fine. An ALJ has the authority to suspend or revoke your license for violations other than those listed.

Speeding/Misdemeanors — If you commit three speeding and/or misdemeanor traffic violations within 18 months, your license will be revoked for at least six months.

New Driver Probation — You are on license probation for six months after you pass a road test. If you are found guilty of committing any two moving violations during your probation period, your license will be suspended for 60 days. It will also be suspended for 60 days if you are found guilty of committing a single, more serious violation during the probation period, including speeding, tailgating, unauthorized racing, or reckless driving.

Points — Most traffic violations carry violation points. The points will be added to your record using the date the violation occurred, not the date you are found guilty. If your violation points in any 18-month period add up to 11 or more, your license may be revoked or suspended following a hearing.

The ALJ usually holds the point hearing immediately after you are found guilty of a violation that brings your total to 11 or more points in 18 months. On the following panel is a list of common violations and the number of points for each.

Taking a DMV-approved accident prevention course can reduce your point total by up to four points and reduce your auto liability and collision insurance premiums by 10% for three years. Ask for more information at any motor vehicle office.

Violation Points

VIOLATION POINTS
Speeding (MPH over posted limit)
1 to 10 3
11 to 20 4
21 to 30 6
31 to 40 8
Over 40 11
Reckless driving 5
Failed to stop for school bus 5
Followed too closely (tailgating) 4
Inadequate brakes (private car) 4
Inadequate Brakes (employer's vehicle) 2
Failed to yield right-of-way 3
Disobeying traffic control signal, STOP sign or YIELD sign 3
Railroad crossing violation 3
Improper passing, changing lane unsafely 3
Driving left of center, in wrong direction 3
Leaving scene of property damage incident 3
Child safety restraint violation 3
Any other moving violation 2




LET US HEAR FROM YOU
We welcome your suggestions for improving TVB services and operations. Please write your suggestions and leave them at a TVB office or mail them to:

Director
Office of Traffic Violations
Department of Motor Vehicles
6 Empire State Plaza, Albany, NY 12228

or to

Supervising ALJ
Office of Traffic Violations
625 Atlantic Avenue
Brooklyn, NY 11217

TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS BUREAU ADDRESSES AND PHONE NUMBERS




C-49 (2/05) Edited for the Internet 8/05 Additional information can be found here:
Driver License & Non-driver ID page

DMV FAQs

George E. Pataki, Governor
Raymond P. Martinez, Commissioner

 

[BiggieE]

The thing is...the thruway does'nt go thru Rochester....it goes to the south of the City....the towns along the thruway handles their own traffic cases......but what you posted is basically correct. The place to send the summons will be written on the face of the summons....

 

[sasha1234]

The problem may not be the fine or warrants although that is definetely going to happen if you fail to respond. I was going to say that you need to phone the Ministry of transportation (Driver control Office) not sure of the number it's in the phonebook to ask them if Ontario has a "Recipracal agreement" with rochestor. But I just phoned traffic services at 416-808-1900 and asked them. Ontario DOES have a recipracal agreement with the Entire state of New York. Therefore any ticket or motor vehicle related offence will show up on your driving abstract in Ontario for 3 years. So it's best you nip it in the bud.