SP Pricing

[bobistheowl]

The ladies CAN give an unofficial discount to repeat or respectful clientele if the want to, by not monitoring the clock too rigidly. If the guy pays for an hour, and she let's him know that things need to be wrapped up at, say, the 65 minute mark, with 5 minutes or less to finish up, then effectively he got a 17% discount. I'm sure many already do this, without drawing attention to it.

From my own experience, nothing will prompt a bad review more than receiving less than the agreed upon amount of time, even if MSOG is not part of the menu. If I guy pays for an hour, he should expect an hour, even if he's released at the 40 minute mark. He deserves some afterplay for the remainder of his session. This is especially true when the service received would have cost less if a shorter session had been booked in the first place. If the ONLY difference between say, the half hour and hourly rate is how long it takes the guy to shoot, it's unfair to the guys with short duration, particularly if there is a minimum amount of foreplay offered before the acts commence.

Provided that the full length of the session has, or is about to, complete, it should be up to the SP to say when time is up. Whether or not the guy feels he received fair value for his donation will be the biggest factor in his decision to return, or take his business elsewhere.

 

[Lalani Electrica]

Yes, I agree with bob, sometimes the scene is longer than the specified time, so negotiating a lower price and taking longer for the appointment is not very fair to the sp. For me, it depends on the type of scene, if it's a messy g/s or strap-on scene, it's more expensive due to the clean-up, although for a relaxing massage I'm happy with my minimum rate. Of course, I get tipped often because the level of service I provide is outstanding, so I've been told, and I thoroughly enjoy whatever I do which only adds to the experience for everyone.

I agree with bob again, one hour is one hour, and a massage after playing is always offered, sometimes with a second release at the very end, or let him leave with an erection for tease and denial scenes, lol

 

[MindJohn]

I don't really like it when guys try to negotiate. But yes, I will sometimes offer small discounts/deals to regulars. Especially if they can't afford to pay more. However, I prefer to make that decision and make the offer rather than the guy asking for it. I don't really think it's appropriate to ask (unless you have a very good rapport with the lady).

Would someone go to their dentist asking for a discount and imply that if they don't get it they'll go elsewhere? I don't think that would be appropriate at all. Maybe it's not the best analogy (since I doubt many ask their dentists for discounts) but it would be sort of a similar situation.

Consider that one of the best performing stocks/businesses on the continent in recent years is Priceline.com. Indeed they have a novel pricing concept as compared with the rest of their market.

One of the few truly good things about the world's oldest profession as practiced in North America is that rates ARE flexible.

While I am uncomfortable with "haggling" (as much for the guys' tone mirroring that of effectively "begging" for sex, in 'real life', as for any other reason)... the idea that a prospective client might phone you and name a reasonable price gives the woman the option to accept or reject that price.

As this isn't a car dealership where there is a "cost" for the product, under which amount the dealer is selling at a monetary loss, it should be less awkward for those inclined to make realistic offers (without 'haggling') to dial an SP and state that they only have $180... (vs. her $200 hourly rate)... leaving it her choice to accept or reject.

The SP market is more pure than others in that supply, demand, current market trends, financial needs, and what a guy can afford drive prices which are not fixed.

Personally, I'm not one to negotiate, but I can sure see the merits to flexible pricing.

 

[freestuff]

Consider that one of the best performing stocks/businesses on the continent in recent years is Priceline.com. Indeed they have a novel pricing concept as compared with the rest of their market.

One of the few truly good things about the world's oldest profession as practiced in North America is that rates ARE flexible.

While I am uncomfortable with "haggling" (as much for the guys' tone mirroring that of effectively "begging" for sex, in 'real life', as for any other reason)... the idea that a prospective client might phone you and name a reasonable price gives the woman the option to accept or reject that price.

As this isn't a car dealership where there is a "cost" for the product, under which amount the dealer is selling at a monetary loss, it should be less awkward for those inclined to make realistic offers (without 'haggling') to dial an SP and state that they only have $180... (vs. her $200 hourly rate)... leaving it her choice to accept or reject.

The SP market is more pure than others in that supply, demand, current market trends, financial needs, and what a guy can afford drive prices which are not fixed.

Personally, I'm not one to negotiate, but I can sure see the merits to flexible pricing.

But is it "proper" to call a SP whose website clearly states that her rates are NON-NEGOTIABLE and offer a price that is less than her rates? Are you just not wasting her time at that point?

 

[fuji]

I agree that the most common unofficial discount is letting the session run well over the clock. There's a few SP's I know that, if they don't have any session booked after mine, will basically invite me to stay on well past my alotted time.

That's also something that is not negotiated. That's always something that is simply offered by the SP, and it isn't ALWAYS offered.

I maintain that unless you are booking 3+ hours you should NOT negotiate on price.

 

[fuji]

As this isn't a car dealership where there is a "cost" for the product, under which amount the dealer is selling at a monetary loss, it should be less awkward for those inclined to make realistic offers (without 'haggling') to dial an SP and state that they only have $180... (vs. her $200 hourly rate)... leaving it her choice to accept or reject.

You're just wrong. Car prices are FAR more flexible than the price of sex. I would recommend to any SP that if a customer calls up to try and negotiate the price for a 30min, 1hr, or 2hr session that she simply hang up the phone.

The SP market is more pure than others in that supply, demand, current market trends, financial needs, and what a guy can afford drive prices which are not fixed.

Your sentence started out well enough, and then went off the rails. You are right that the market for sex is a very pure market. There is intense competition, with many buyers and many sellers competing together in a market. That is why the prices are so standard, even though most SP's never meet one another.

As such, in a pure market like the market for sex, the financial needs of any individual SP and the ability to pay of any individual customer are NOT factors in pricing. An SP can't double her rates just because she's facing a cash problem, nor can a customer demand that SP's cut their rates just because he finds himself a little out of pocket. The prices are set by the overall market supply and demand.

 

[bobistheowl]

...As this isn't a car dealership where there is a "cost" for the product, under which amount the dealer is selling at a monetary loss, it should be less awkward for those inclined to make realistic offers (without 'haggling') to dial an SP and state that they only have $180... (vs. her $200 hourly rate)... leaving it her choice to accept or reject...

If you're buying a car, and you have $20,000 to spend, maybe you get a Mazda, and if you only have $14,000 to spend, you might get a Kia. It's best to shop in your price range. You can probably get an hour plus for your $180 if you want to grease your piece obese, or with an Asian fresh off the boat who can smile in English, if that's what you want. I would think that most of the higher end gals take into account the number of appointments they'd like to make when they set their rates. A higher rate does not necessarily equate to a higher income, but it does correlate with a more discriminating clientele, for both parties. Some ladies only want to make a few appointments per week, to supplement an existing income. Some want all the business they can generate. Some stare at the phone, hoping it will ring often enough to cover advertising expenses. The supply and demand analogy may apply to the industry as a whole, but it breaks down when applied to individuals. A higher hourly rate usually means that the demand meets or exceeds the supply she's chosen to offer. Not everyone wants a forty hour work week, and the degree of enthusiasm probably drops proportionately with the frequency of rendered service.

 

[LordLoki]

That is the point of negotiation. If you think you will lose the client, you either lower your price or accept the outcome.

Or say yes to get the $, and not be motivated to work too hard to make it a great session?

 

[sasemohan123]

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO VERY WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have tried sp's and agencies who I will never go back to. I have never asked or even thought of asking them for a free session. The sp's have lives and bills they must pay as well. Maybe we should all ask you to come and do something for free to see if we like your professionalism.

I think he was just JOKING, not even kidding, lighten up man. You should be "having fun" too.

 

[freestuff]

I'm not sure haggle is the right word. How about barter?......

Barter is not the right word either.

 

[MissCroft]

Consider that one of the best performing stocks/businesses on the continent in recent years is Priceline.com. Indeed they have a novel pricing concept as compared with the rest of their market.

One of the few truly good things about the world's oldest profession as practiced in North America is that rates ARE flexible.

I guess but at the moment I am fully booked up at my rate so there is no incentive for me to lower it or negotiate. If times were slower (like say in January/February for example) then I might be more inclined to offer discounts. But I still think it should be my decision and I should not feel pressured into it.

I agree that the most common unofficial discount is letting the session run well over the clock. There's a few SP's I know that, if they don't have any session booked after mine, will basically invite me to stay on well past my alotted time.

Yes, that is one way an SP could show her appreciation without haggling over the rate.

I maintain that unless you are booking 3+ hours you should NOT negotiate on price.

I agree. If you're a regular of the lady and/or booking mulitple hours then I think it's more acceptable. If you're a booking a lady for the first time for an hour, then I think it's inappropriate.

 

[Madeline Rhodes]

I want the men who've been in favour of asking for a discount to think of how they would feel if tomorrow their work place called them and said the following:

We'd like you to come into work tomorrow, give the same amount of effort you always do, dress exactly as you always do, get to work the same way as you always do, etc. but we are going to give you 50-75% of your wages. Don't worry! We still value the work you do, the effort you put in, and the fact that you are even inclined to show up.

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Now that you are going to willingly do this I am sure you can convince someone else to do the same!

So you are paying her for her time... in your mind. The reason you are getting a multi-hour discount from some is it is the same to get ready be it 30 minutes or 3 hours. The reason you pay extra for PSE is simple... SHE takes time to prepare her body. I am sure if you do not mind the occasional messy situation you might talk her into avoiding that extra amount but hey... If I was going to ask to stick a cock in a woman's ass and she wanted extra $ because of prep time... I'd pay it!

 

[MissCroft]

I want the men who've been in favour of asking for a discount to think of how they would feel if tomorrow their work place called them and said the following:

We'd like you to come into work tomorrow, give the same amount of effort you always do, dress exactly as you always do, get to work the same way as you always do, etc. but we are going to give you 50-75% of your wages. Don't worry! We still value the work you do, the effort you put in, and the fact that you are even inclined to show up.!

Excellent analogy!

Another problem is that when you give one a guy a discount, others may find out and then want discounts too. Then where does it end?

 

[fuji]

Another problem is that when you give one a guy a discount, others may find out and then want discounts too. Then where does it end?

Yeah. I think you are better off showing your appreciation for your regular customers some other way, like letting the session run over time, or whatever. Your prices, I think, should be firm. Only exception to that is if a customer has always paid a given rate, and you raise your rates, it's normal for existing customers to continue on at the old rate. There's no arguing or haggling about any of that.

I also think any discount, extra time, etc., should always be offered, and never asked for, with the exception of the really long 3+ hour bookings where in my estimation there aren't really any standard prices.

 

[Mencken]

I don't like the idea of bartering, questioning, offering less...any of it. I have a hard enough time doing that even when it is expected...say at flea markets in certain foreign countries.

But I suspect that pricing is a very big part of providers' business planning. Deciding on what to offer at what price, and how to market that, are big issues that I'm sure are given much thought and consideration. You can go for the flashy ad in the Eye...showing a nice piece of curvature of some kind...and a lowball sort of price, and then upsell on specific options...or go for the more all inclusive higher end courtesan approach...high end web-site, international ads...high end prices and go for the low volume but high payoff business. Mostly marketing....although with sites like this one there is a bit of real information that helps customers make slightly more informed decisions.

For myself, when/if, I know I can't afford the high end cost wise. But if/when I choose the provider will never know that. So the market place also sorts itself out. I'm sure there are lots of great experiences out there...to be had, for less than the premium prices of $400 plus per hour. And I'm sure it is quite hard to find much in the low end at the advertised $60 FS prices you see in certain papers.

 

[freestuff]

That's kind of argumentative of you. Wanna take it to a whole thread?

Barter is a method of exchange by which goods or services are directly exchanged for other goods or services without using a medium of exchange, such as money. So unless you're paying the SP with something beside money then "barter" is not the right word.

 

[harryass]

if yah don't like the pricing or it ain't within your budget than move on. Shit, this ain't no flea market.

 

[Mr. Lucky]

I am looking for a $20 incall

 

[KylieTO]

if yah don't like the pricing or it ain't within your budget than move on. Shit, this ain't no flea market.

Hahahahahaha! "This ain't no flea market"... Classic.

 

[Madeline Rhodes]

I am looking for a $20 incall

OMG I just had visuals of what kinds of critters you'd be sharing a $20 incall with... I am now going to hit the shower. *shudder*