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kherg007

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Yes, this is one way of doing it. But what will happen with a barbershop if it become known that one of the barbers refuses to serve black clients? The only reason I hear is "but sex work is a different from anything else". Why? Why should it be different in a country when it is legal?
It is different, and the laws reflect it. Private contractors can often turn down jobs. The category of sex work is even more different than that. The laws recognise the intimate nature of the work and the right of refusal. They dont recognise it for other services, although in the usa religious types want to give business the right to discriminate based on sexual orientation (e.g., not making a wedding cake for a gay couple).
 

Dcoat

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It’s both. They have a right to choose and it’s racist af.
By an SP having a right to refuse to service black men, do you mean if a black man who was refused services sued he'd loose? Cause I think you'd be wrong.
 

Vermeer27

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Based on my own anecdotal evidence, a disproportionate number of sp's are Snowbunnies and date many black guys, or at-least they go through a phase where they do. This doesn't prevent them from refusing service to black clients, due to bad experiences or the fact that they have black pimps or they simply have black boyfriends, who for some reason are not sexually threatened by white clients but are insecure about black ones.

I'm not saying it really makes sense, but I've observed this dynamic many times. SP's are mostly hashtagging BlackLivesMatter because it's a Generational moment for them and everyone else is doing it.
 

Greytop19

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Let's flip the script (is that an expression?)

Anyway, if you're a black or brown guy, why would you want to spend your hard-earned money on some (possibly) racist cunt who'd only be going through the motions before rushing you out the door? Fuck that shit and see someone who'll give you a good time.

In that sense, it's good that some of these bitches make it clear on the agency site they won't see men of certain races -- as much as it would suck to be singled out like that.
Well said and I agree with you 100%. Too many choices available out there. Covid-19 will change the attitude and all colors will be welcome to make up for lost revenue and reduced number of clients.
 

y2kmark

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Come on -all this discussion. Sex is a personal service and both SPs and clients can decide based on any criteria whatsoever. Back in the day I was into SCTO, never having liked the "pig in a poke" approach that online escorting necessarily has (first time, at least) My personal experience, and I must point out I am white (exceptionally white, and walk with my buttocks exceptionally tight) is that some women just don't smell right, and that black/hispanic women are more likely to be in the "some" category. Does this make me a dog whistle racist? On some subliminal/subconscious level do I really dislike women of color? I don't see myself as a racist or in support of bigotry, but on the other hand, anyone who expects me to burn my copy of Huckleberry Finn can kiss my ass...
 

kherg007

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Well said and I agree with you 100%. Too many choices available out there. Covid-19 will change the attitude and all colors will be welcome to make up for lost revenue and reduced number of clients.
Yes agree w J.A. too. If i knew a particular lady said "No over-the-hill generic looking white blokes" I'd be happy to avoid her. LOL.

However, on a more serious note, if you are a bloke of colour it sucks to have to pay for another man's sins. Although I hope my lads (my kids are biracial) never find themselves in this "hobby" world (settle down w a nice girl) it would infuriate me, as it always infuriates me, that someone judges them immediately based upon their appearance. I am thinking one good thing to come from this tragedy is i see a lot more white folks empathise with the cost of prejudice.
 
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Greytop19

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Yes agree w J.A. too. If i knew a particular lady said "No over-the-hill generic looking white blokes" I'd be happy to avoid her. LOL.

However, on a more serious note, if you are a bloke of colour it sucks to have to pay for another man's sins. Although I hope my lads (my kids are biracial) never find themselves in this world (settle down w a nice girl) it would infuriate me, as it always infuriates me, that someone judges them immediately based upon their appearance. I am thinking one good thing to come from this tragedy is i see a lot more white folks empathise with the cost of prejudice.
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the free market will correct itself
 

lomotil

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No black / no brown clients. We see this on ads often. There are a lot of escorts joining the woke brigade this time. Wanted to use the opportunity to bump an old topic of ours. Do We still think escorts have a right to chose or do We now think that it's just racist as f.
What rights do the sex workers have ? They have the same rights as the customers except plus immunity from prosecution under Bill C36 which the customers do not have. Who would the customer complain to about the discrimination, LE, the Human Rights Tribunal, the Better Business Bureau ? There are enough sex providers for everyone so that racist sex providers and racist customers can certainly find what they are looking for, especially in the GTA with so much variety.
 

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Of course they can, they have the right to do so, as long as it is just condemning and not actually doing any harm to that person. This is the beauty of a free country. But firing someone for their beliefs (no matter what their beliefs are) is discrimination
Oh how wrong.

Companies can fire anyone at anytime without cause as long as they provide severance. Firing someone based on characteristics listed in the charter is a crime but the charter does not protect viewpoints such as racism. This is especially true for high exposure jobs as those views reflect badly on the company and thus their bottom line.
 

basketcase

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I do not judge people, I am computing conditional probabilities....
So you are a racist who tries to justify that racism based on statistics. I get it.

Avoiding poverty stricken areas while wearing expensive jewellery might be a reasonable thought. Using statistics to conclude a black person is likely poor and therefore likely a criminal sounds like something straight out of the Eugenics playbook.
 

basketcase

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... the probability that a randomly chosen white person is intelligent is 280/500=56%, while this probability for a black person is only 220/500=44%. The same applies to probability to be a criminal. It has nothing to do with race, only with economic status, yet, if economic status is not know, the race become a factor that a rational person will use.
Wow. Just astounding that someone would post this crap.

How about treating people like individuals based on their interaction with you instead of making pseudo-scientific justifications for racism?
 

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I do not judge people, I am computing conditional probabilities. I do not consider the race to be the reason, the race is an independent parameter but both the race and crime correlate with poverty (race by the fact that it is hard to get out of poverty when your grew in poverty, second because poor people are more likely to resort to crime). Hence, while I do not believe that race has anything to do with it, if I cannot observe the socio-economic status of the person, the use of race as an signal is perfectly rational.
Please read some history, sociology and law.

The reasons you are giving ARE PRECISELY WHY DISCRIMINATION IS BAD.

Whatever the probabilities you compute, it does not tell you about an individual human being standing in front of you. You should treat people based on what you actually know about them, not what you think you can guess about them.
 

VirginJohn

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Yes agree w J.A. too. If i knew a particular lady said "No over-the-hill generic looking white blokes" I'd be happy to avoid her. LOL.

However, on a more serious note, if you are a bloke of colour it sucks to have to pay for another man's sins. Although I hope my lads (my kids are biracial) never find themselves in this "hobby" world (settle down w a nice girl) it would infuriate me, as it always infuriates me, that someone judges them immediately based upon their appearance. I am thinking one good thing to come from this tragedy is i see a lot more white folks empathise with the cost of prejudice.
An escort that is willing to see you and take your money might discriminate against your son if you were both seeing the same escort and they had a 'no blacks' ad? Are "no blacks' ads taken to mean 'whites-only'?

I've done some ad-surfing, and think that Filipinas has the most frequent amount of ads like that relative to the total ads (Filipinas), while I've seen allot less from Asians.

It's a bit of a buzz-kill if you are fapping off escort ads and see "no blacks". I usually look for "no blacks" before I decide whether or not to fap on the pics or subscribe to their OF, so I can avoid them.
 

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An escort that is willing to see you and take your money might discriminate against your son if you were both seeing the same escort and they had a 'no blacks' ad? Are "no blacks' ads taken to mean 'whites-only'?

I've done some ad-surfing, and think that Filipinas has the most frequent amount of ads like that relative to the total ads (Filipinas), while I've seen allot less from Asians.

It's a bit of a buzz-kill if you are fapping off escort ads and see "no blacks". I usually look for "no blacks" before I decide whether or not to fap on the pics or subscribe to their OF, so I can avoid them.
very true. They are the ones that usually have a white men only requirement. Or more specifically a suptile old white men requirement.
 

simon482

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I'm just happy none say "no fat or ugly guys". I always apologize for ruining their day.
 

y2kmark

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But isnt rejecting on basis of skin color what racism all about?
Discriminating about who you have sex with is legal, I think. A very personal choice. But yes, the choice in this case does indicate racism, certainly...
 
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