something to please Aardvark! Putin & Romanovs

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http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...-Putin-reinstate-Tsar-Nicholas-Second-Romanov

Vladimir Putin 'wants' to reinstate Russia's royal family and bring back the Tsars
VLADIMIR PUTIN 'wants' to reinstate the Russian royal family and move them into an ancient palace once occupied by the last Tsar Nicholas II.

The Romanov family's extraordinary return would not threaten the rule of the Kremlin strongman but would aim to give them a role in unifying Russia.

The move proposed by Vladimir Petrov, a law maker from Putin's party, has prompted speculation that it has the Russian leader's direct approval.

Petrov also plans to introduce a law, which would be implemented by the centenary of the end of Imperial rule, which would "give the Royal family members a special status" and "stimulate their return to Russia".

The legislator has written letters to the heirs of the Romanov dynasty, which ruled the country for two centuries before the abdication of last Tsar Nicholas II ahead of two revolutions in 1917.

The following year the Romanov family - Nicholas and his wife Tsarina Alexandra and their five children Olga, Tatiana, Maria, Anastasia and Alexei - were executed by Bolsheviks led by Yakov Yurovsky under the orders of the Ural Soviet.

Petrov has written to Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna and Prince Dimitri Romanovich urging them to return to Russia to become symbols of national culture in order to "revive the spiritual power of Russian people".

The leaked letter read: "Throughout the history of its reign, the Imperial dynasty of the Romanovs was one of the pillars of Russia's sovereignty."

The country now "goes through a difficult process of restoring the country's greatness and returning its global influence" and "members of the Romanov House cannot stay aloof from the processes taking place in Russia now at such an important historical moment".

It states: "I am sure that a return of the descendants of the last Russian ruler to the historic homeland will contribute towards smoothing of political contradictions left since the October Revolution, and will become a symbol of the revival of the spiritual power of Russian people.

"The Royal family descendants might play an important symbolic role in Russian society.

"Like in many European countries, Romanovs might become a symbol of preserving traditions and national culture."

The royals would be returned to one of the great Romanov palaces including Ropshinsky or Pavlovsky, near St Petersburg, or the grand Livadia Palace in Crimea, annexed by Putin from Ukraine last year.

The letter continued: "Until now, many of Tsar family's palaces stay empty or are used for a wrong purpose.

"I think that it would only benefit everyone if one of such palaces in Leningrad region will be used as an official residence."

Alexander Zakharov, director of Romanov Imperial House in Russia, hinted that some representatives of the dynasty were ready to return to Russia.

He said: "The Imperial House has repeatedly said that it is ready to come back to Russia for permanent residence, and our representatives spend increasingly more time in Russia and feel eager to move.

"Duchess Maria Vladimirovna could have returned any moment as a private citizen, but since she heads the Imperial House and bears responsibility to the ancestors, her return must be decent."

Mr Zakharov said that she was not seeking a lavish palace, adding: "She claims neither real estate rights, nor political powers and privileges, but she wants the Imperial House to be a historical institution and part of the country's historical heritage."

But he stressed that the deposed royal family should not be dragged into political games in modern Russia.

"The Imperial House does not take part in any political fights," he added, warning that there were groups seeking to "exploit the royals."

But Sergey Markov, head of the Institute of Political Studies, argued that a return of the Romanovs would have little influence on a modern Russia.

He added: "Most of the countries pay no respect to Imperial Houses, except for Great Britain and the Netherlands.

"People in Russia treat the Romanovs either as victims because they were shot by the Bolsheviks, or as traitors who behaved irresponsibly during the critical years of the monarchy.

"Many believe that it was Nicholas II's abdication that provoked civil war."



 

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If this is true, Tsar Vladimir Putin I, must abdicate and go into exile at least 10,000 km from Russia before the Romanovs can return.
 

Insidious Von

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Vladimir Putin is already the richest man in the world already, why doesn't he become Czar Vladimir IV and get it over with.

 

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I rather doubt the story for a number of reasons. It took 11 years for V.V. Putin to come up with this idea? Putin has a personality which does not like sharing power, there is no way he would ever be merely a head of Government. There is great division as to who is Head of the House of Romanov: is it Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna or Prince Dimitri Romanovich of Russia or is it really Michael Ilyinsky (Prince Michael Romanovsky-Ilyinsky) who is genealogically the senior member of the House. The Putin Administration has previously used this division to attempt to blunt support for Maria Vladimirovna.

At the most it seems to be a if you come back to Russia we'll give you a palace to live in.
 

danmand

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At the most it seems to be a if you come back to Russia we'll give you a palace to live in.
Seems more than generous to me. Of course, then if they do not behave, they will get their heads chopped off.
 

mandrill

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It could simply be a "trial balloon" or a vague incentive to the ultra nationalist Slavophile faction to behave themselves and do what Czar Putin I tells them to do for the time being.

OTOH, Putin is boosting the Russian Orthodox church and playing the "our great Russian traditions are better than the decadent West" card a whole bunch. This might be a real possibility.

I don't interpret this as Putin offering to share power. I interpret this as him saying: "Come here and do what I tell you and give me lots of photo ops of you telling me I'm great and you'll get a palace and lots of $$$$$$, like my other high echelon ass-kissers do".
 

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It could simply be a "trial balloon" or a vague incentive to the ultra nationalist Slavophile faction to behave themselves and do what Czar Putin I tells them to do for the time being.

OTOH, Putin is boosting the Russian Orthodox church and playing the "our great Russian traditions are better than the decadent West" card a whole bunch. This might be a real possibility.

I don't interpret this as Putin offering to share power. I interpret this as him saying: "Come here and do what I tell you and give me lots of photo ops of you telling me I'm great and you'll get a palace and lots of $$$$$$, like my other high echelon ass-kissers do".
You truly are a despicable person. That is what you think of comrade Putin's generous offer of providing housing for some destitute, degenerate people descendent from Russians? You should be ashamed of yourself!
 

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Step 1 - return romanovs to Russia. Amend constitution with emperor inserted giving certain powers similar to england

Step 2 - give emperor power to select president

Step 3 - emperor select Putin for as many terms as Putin desires
 

danmand

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Step 1 - make pigs fly

Step 2 - return romanovs to Russia. Amend constitution with emperor inserted giving certain powers similar to england

Step 3 - give emperor power to select president

Step 4 - emperor select Putin for as many terms as Putin desires
I corrected your post.
 

mandrill

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You truly are a despicable person. That is what you think of comrade Putin's generous offer of providing housing for some destitute, degenerate people descendent from Russians? You should be ashamed of yourself!
I much doubt they're destitute. I suspect that they're probably multi-millionaire investment advisers and stockbrokers like most other European aristocrats these days.
 

danmand

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I much doubt they're destitute. I suspect that they're probably multi-millionaire investment advisers and stockbrokers like most other European aristocrats these days.
If they do not need it, it is so much more generous by comrade Putin to offer them free housing.
 

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Putin makes the British Royals look like misers.... no small feat.... but to be fair Queen Elizabeth inherited her money which is much easier than stealing it.
 

danmand

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Putin makes the British Royals look like misers.... no small feat.... but to be fair Queen Elizabeth inherited her money which is much easier than stealing it.
Wrong, she is stealing it.
 

danmand

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Russia has huge numbers of people living in poverty. It doesn't seem to bother either V.V. Putin or you very much.
That s your defense of the royal family stealing food from the mouths of babies? Your mother would be ashamed of you.
 

mandrill

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That s your defense of the royal family stealing food from the mouths of babies? Your mother would be ashamed of you.
Danny, you're ubiquitous today. Don't you have a job to do or something?
 
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