someone should help this poor couple out!!!!

I think you would want to visit a good lawyer before you decided to participate.
 
hunter001 said:
I think you would want to visit a good lawyer before you decided to participate.

I would also think you would want this man to visit a good doctor before deciding to participate.
 
that is true , also about the lawyer

but just wondering why dont they just adopt a kid? you think they might have criminal record or something?
 
humpler said:
that is true , also about the lawyer

but just wondering why dont they just adopt a kid? you think they might have criminal record or something?
Adoption is not an easy process. Maybe they are not acceptable for adoption agencies. Many adoption agencies (even the CAS) are known to be incredibly descriminating against potential parents. Meaning, even something as trivial as the number of bathrooms in your house, can count you out from adopting a child. If you are young and don't own your home, you may as well forget adoption.
 
humpler said:
thats insane

you sure do know your stuff

you tried adopting one or something?
No I have never tried adopting and I am no expert on it. However I do know many people who work in the social services feild. I grew up in foster care and spent a lot of time picking the brains of social workers and reading phamplets in the CAS office. I have also read a few books and taken university courses related to the topic.

People are often on waiting lists for years before getting a child. It is not just a matter of calling up an agency and telling them you want a kid. They do several home studies, ask fairly invaisive and probing questions, and go through everything including references, bank statements, etc. However they do have a duty in doing this, remember it is a child's life at stake. They want people who are financially and emotionally secure. They also want people who can dedicate time and money in to raising a child. I can understand why the process is stringent, they don't want people who may put the child back in the system (voluntarily or involuntarily). But for many couples adoption is not a possibility because they simply do not qualify.
 
This is an invitation for bare back sex - are you out of your fucking mind - I don't care how desparate the couple are for a child this is an alley that no one should walk down.
 
Strongbeau said:
It is difficult to understand the desperation of childless couples, for the rest of us procreation comes so easily it is a non-issue. So any assumptions one has about what choices are acceptable or not go out the window,

SB is right. Depression of a childless couple is enormous. Friends of mine are childless and it eats away at them like acid whenever they see children. They are becoming neurotic about having children. Nothing matters to them other than this and they would sell their sole to have a child. They don't have the means for invitro so they keep trying and every month that goes by without a positive result is like stabbing them in the heart. I hate to say this but if they keep this up they will both become psychotic shortly and who knows what they will do. I am seriously thinking about helping them financially with an invitro treatment but if it fails they would be totally crazed and even more depressed. :confused:

As far as this offer - no. Too many issues could arise out of this offer. They are better off to adopt a child.
 
Bogus. I'll tell you why. The woman can get a sperm donation from a particular person through other means other than sexual intercourse. Just ask lesbian couples, it's all about the turkey baster. But here in the ad they are requesting not only intercourse but also frequent intercourse over two weeks. Like what dude is gonna let some guy lay into his wife for 2 weeks? Unless that's his kink.

Frankly I believe if you are shooting blanks then that's nature's way of saying "Sorry hun, you aint meant to breed." So, you adopt.
 
One big reason why they might not want to adopt is that with the CL way, the baby is her biological child, if not his. That makes a big difference. Still, CL is a funny way to go about it - they don't know any fertile men? And as has already been pointed out, why not the turkey baster? You would certainly want to be cautious, with full lawyer and medical check before committing.

A lesbian couple I knew wanted a donor, and I volunteered. But they changed their mind.
 
Artificial Insemination is very expensive.

I can't remember the exact figure, but I was amazed. There is a lot of prep work leading up to it as well, all of which costs.

The give her the shot in the evening, and again in the morning.

Seems to me, it was 2 grand a shot and nothing is guaranteed.

They could be on the level, and if so, more power to them.
 
drrogers said:
This is an invitation for bare back sex - are you out of your fucking mind - I don't care how desparate the couple are for a child this is an alley that no one should walk down.

You make me laugh...

Oooohhh, bare back sex!!!

How nasty.

:rolleyes:
 
C Dick said:
One big reason why they might not want to adopt is that with the CL way, the baby is her biological child, if not his. That makes a big difference. Still, CL is a funny way to go about it - they don't know any fertile men? And as has already been pointed out, why not the turkey baster? You would certainly want to be cautious, with full lawyer and medical check before committing.

A lesbian couple I knew wanted a donor, and I volunteered. But they changed their mind.


Maybe they do know people who fit the bill but don't want anyone to know Or they want the child's donor to be completely out of their lives so they can move ahead without any reminders/further awkwardness...
 
drrogers said:
This is an invitation for bare back sex - are you out of your fucking mind - I don't care how desparate the couple are for a child this is an alley that no one should walk down.

All other things aside why is this a problem? Assuming everything is legit and the participants are even moderately intelligent I would think that the parties involved in the physical act would have medical tests done to ensure that both parties are clean.
 
bee eh said:
Something is not quite right...aritificial insemination is easy, and very carefully screened sperm is available from what I understand. This is much easier than in vitro - which is used where the woman cannot get pregnant from normal means.

But perhaps they are looking for an excuse to swing a bit. That seems more likely.

AI is very expensive and OHIP doesn't pay for it.

You can drop 20 grand in a heart beat.
 
james t kirk said:
AI is very expensive and OHIP doesn't pay for it.

You can drop 20 grand in a heart beat.

If I dropped 20 grand I think my heart would stop beating :)
 
Both Adoption and Artificial Insemination are expensive.

Maybe the couple does not have or want to spend
ten to twenty grand.

I think the couple is desparate for a child.
 
It sounds like a simple and cheap way of getting an anonymous donor.
Getting papers to prove each is clean is also easy.

I hope this solution works for them.