What he said.Cycleguy007 said:Once again you have said what I was thinking JFK!
My first reaction was to say, as despicable as this act of cruelty was, it does not compare to the injustice of such instances as what was done to the Jane Creba's and Tori Stafford's of the world! (Amongst all the others of course)
But I didn't want to compare the act of cruelty of a small defenseless cat to that of a small defenseless human child.
The fact is... An act of cruelty against a defenseless being is just that. A cowardly act of cruelty which SHOULD be punished to the highest level. Unfortunately in the (Rockslinger term insertion warning) Looney Lefty Liberal society, that we have created for ourselves, the perpetrator has FAR too many rights under the letter of the law. Rights of which, (in my way of thinking at least) should be automatically forfeited. We should NOT be discussing "rights" for people such as the perpetrators of such acts of cruelty, but for taking responsibility for ones actions!
What about the rights of the victims and their loved ones?!
Just my nickels worth...
Some &*$###basterd shot a cat with a crossbow
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The 'it's only a damn cat' line is pretty predictable, there is always someone who wants to set up that straw man. There was a thread a while ago about the guy who shot up a bunch of women at a health club - one could have replied "How can you be so upset about one guy killing a few girls - do you realize how many people are killed by drunks in cars every year? why aren't you outraged about that?" Decent people care about both. Just to reinforce the points well expressed above. The 'get a grip' faction probably really don't care about murdered humans either. They just particuarly don't like animals.
I do have a sensitivity to these animal stories, particularly the one about Phoenix the chow chow who was found wandering in such a horrifying condition. When I first saw that picture in the paper, I really couldn't process it. The combination of the awful suffering apparent there (the saliva dripping from his terribly damaged face simply shocked me to my core) and the incredible dignity that he somehow also projected (he was still here, trying to live even in what would be hell to any sentient being), it was just so so real. My heart grew, because I knew that his heart and mine were the same. This is why we have pets, and why we react to sensless cruelty to them.
With domesticated animals I really feel we owe them care beyond what we might feel for all the creatures, because they have given up their wild capacities to survive in order to live with us. They trust us, even when they shouldn't. This is, to me, a great gift.
I'm a little sensitive because I had to put my dear cat down a week ago, and I felt that the moment of his death was a moment of opening to all suffering.
Tomorrow I get a new kitten! Such is the true grace of life on this often sorry world.
I wish both the cat and the chow chow the best, and hope that even if they do not survive the cruelty of humans, their last days will be touched by the care that humans can also provide.
I do have a sensitivity to these animal stories, particularly the one about Phoenix the chow chow who was found wandering in such a horrifying condition. When I first saw that picture in the paper, I really couldn't process it. The combination of the awful suffering apparent there (the saliva dripping from his terribly damaged face simply shocked me to my core) and the incredible dignity that he somehow also projected (he was still here, trying to live even in what would be hell to any sentient being), it was just so so real. My heart grew, because I knew that his heart and mine were the same. This is why we have pets, and why we react to sensless cruelty to them.
With domesticated animals I really feel we owe them care beyond what we might feel for all the creatures, because they have given up their wild capacities to survive in order to live with us. They trust us, even when they shouldn't. This is, to me, a great gift.
I'm a little sensitive because I had to put my dear cat down a week ago, and I felt that the moment of his death was a moment of opening to all suffering.
Tomorrow I get a new kitten! Such is the true grace of life on this often sorry world.
I wish both the cat and the chow chow the best, and hope that even if they do not survive the cruelty of humans, their last days will be touched by the care that humans can also provide.
That was so disturbing, brutal, horrific!!! It really shook me to see that helpless creature that went through a slow, painful torture. I got a bit of a boost tonight when they said it looks like Pheonix will be ok and hopefully can be adopted by a loving family soon.staggerspool said:
Who gives a fuck.
Another thing - now that we're living in the 21st century it's high time to abandon the idea of co-habiting with animals.
It's like religion, a vestige of the past but sadly too many believers still exist. In fact, both religion and the animals rights nonsense is actually growing.
Another thing - now that we're living in the 21st century it's high time to abandon the idea of co-habiting with animals.
It's like religion, a vestige of the past but sadly too many believers still exist. In fact, both religion and the animals rights nonsense is actually growing.
Fatume said:
So just where on the evolutionary ladder should we become upset about cruelty ?
When you get an arrow through your shoulder?
Some might say...."It's only damn Fatume."
Did you forget to take your happy pills again GG?GotGusto said:
Sounds like someone needs to get laid! Hee hee
The pathology of animal lovers is frightening. You know, people in my family who own pets have told me point blank that if their pet was in need of help and a human child was in need of help, they would rather save their pet.
I've heard this from other pet owners but I assumed that members of my own direct flesh and blood would have a little more humanity.
I pray that my views are still those of the majority, but I cannot say with any certainty.
The outcry over the Michael Vick case is outrageous and only makes sense in a warped decaying civilization.
I've heard this from other pet owners but I assumed that members of my own direct flesh and blood would have a little more humanity.
I pray that my views are still those of the majority, but I cannot say with any certainty.
The outcry over the Michael Vick case is outrageous and only makes sense in a warped decaying civilization.
I lose? How so?pencilneckgeek2 said:
"Godwin's Law does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
I lose? How so?
"Godwin's Law does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
"Godwin's Law does not make any statement about whether any particular reference or comparison to Adolf Hitler or the Nazis might be appropriate, but only asserts that the likelihood of such a reference or comparison arising increases as the discussion progresses." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law
This would apply if I were making an argument based on Reductio ad Hitlerum, but I was not.arthurfonzerelli said:
I wasn't making the argument that if Hilter supported X then supporting X is wrong.
My argument is that a society or civilization which puts behaves as though animals are equal to or above humans is one that is undesirable (this was regarding the post I made about my own family members earlier in the thread). The reference to Nazi Germany and its animal protection laws is merely a stark illustration of such backwardness.
