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Probably never. I was just talking to my neighbour and we are putting up fence. He is in the trade industry and a sales rep told him prices will be going up again this spring/summer. If you need lumber, buy now and store it in your garage.
Demand always goes up once the nice weather arrives. Last year lumber stores were running out of lumber.
 
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JohnHenry said:
So I have a little project that I priced out. Seems that lumber prices have tripled in the last year. Anybody have any idea when they may return to normal?
https://www.nrcan.gc.ca/our-natural...arkets/current-lumber-pulp-panel-prices/13309
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A long while, if ever.
I was going to have a deck built last summer.
Didn't pull the trigger on the purchase (should've).
Would've been about $4,900.
Ended up getting it done this past week, ~$5,800.
The installer told me they're expecting lumber costs to be up another 30% in April, and more this summer.
 
angrymime666 said:
if I remember correctly a 2x4x8 was at 8 bucks. it now currently sits around 4.
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On what planet?

A 2x4x8 is almost 8 bucks (it was less than 3 bucks a year ago.)

A sheet of 4x8x3/4 is now double what is was a year ago at 80 bucks.
 
To answer the original poster, the prices shot up about a year ago supposedly due to COVID creating a demand for soft wood (people having time on their hands to do a home reno project) and some mills being shut down, however, that is no longer really the case.

I think the mills have just figured our, "hey, these fools will actually pay this. Fuck putting prices back down. Let the good times roll!")
 
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lessjamie7 said:
Softwood Lumber


Oh for crying out loud, I thought this was a cock thread about erectile dysfunction.
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And I thought this was about the U.S. - Canada softwood lumber trade war. Yeah, the U.S. really loves us, especially after we kidnapped Miss Meng. The U.S. might even kill Keystone XL. What! They already killed Keystone XL.
 
If people keep paying what they are paying it will never return to "normal". Lumber industry simply used COVID as pretext to jack up prices. I would say it will take another nearly "catastrophic" event to change anything. It is funny how they punished people for price gouging when it came to toilet paper but lumber, housing and many other goods seem exempt from that same logic.
 
If I was going to build a home project like a deck, I’d probably go find a local(ish) lumber mill and get it from them.
Better quality, may not get kiln dried but you can compensate for shrinkage by using a denser softwood like hemlock.

I guarantee in anyone’s circle of friends, someone will know a guy who knows a guy with a mill. It’s the bro code.
 
angrymime666 said:
a bought about 10 at HD about 3-6mths ago for $4.27. lowes was at 5.10, hence went to HD.
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Uh yeah, you may want to check the prices in the present, not 6 months ago.

The current prices reek of price fixing in the industry. I figure that the industry never figured that people would pay such insane prices, but once they saw that the public actually will pay such crazy high prices, well, why lower?

That said, I have to admit that the entire real estate market has gone insane. Spurred on by crazy low interest rates. The residential construction market is likewise on fire, again spurred on by low interest rates. So there is that.
 
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The overall problem with softwood lumber is total available timber for harvest especially in BC. Spruce beetle killed a lot of trees in BC and into AB many were harvested quickly and turned into lumber rather than leaving them to rot.

Shipments from retail started to increase last year immediately after lockdowns started and never slowed down, very small seasonal decrease but nothing compared to historical norms.

There was no buildup of inventory that normally happens in Q4 and Q1 so prices remained firm.

Little chance prices return to historical lows a new low, higher than anything before, could be seen but not likely before Q4 2021. If interest rates remain low and housing demand in the US continues as high as it is, the market will not drop in Q4 but will remain high.

Mills are paying more and more for logs weekly, it is an open bidding process for anything that is not on the mills tenured land. Provincial governments in need of revenue are benefiting from the increased prices for logs from crown land - they need the revenue.

Canadian companies continue to buy mills in the Southern US spending money to upgrade the efficiency and making those mills more and more cost competitive. They are actually counting on getting money back from the duty being held in trust currently by the US government. Imagine putting money in an account you can't touch that the customer paid (duty price is built into the selling price shipping wood to the US) then getting probably 2/3 to 3/4 of that back in a massive cheque. Then taking that money and buying assets in the US and making even more money.

Shortage of supply will continue to keep prices high. If we could get more logs, make more lumber, and sell it today we would there is just not enough of anything in the supply chain (logs, loggers, logging trucks, people to work in the mill, available time to produce in a mill, trucks to ship to market, etc.)

Every forest product or related product is in the same situation. Even composite decking is on allocation

For the first time in over a year I heard a story of a US based customer being offered lumber to buy and saying "no thanks." They were worried they would not be able to resell it. That is ONE retail account out of thousands.

If you are considering a project and find someone has inventory to supply it my suggestion, buy it now do not wait it will get more expensive or there will be no inventory available
 
The price will remain high so long as Canada's real estate market is out of control, fueling new builds.
It's completely irresponsible for the government to have allowed things to get to this state. Now any steps they take will be extremely painful. But not as painful as letting things run amok.
 
james t kirk said:
Uh yeah, you may want to check the prices in the present, not 6 months ago.

The current prices reek of price fixing in the industry. I figure that the industry never figured that people would pay such insane prices, but once they saw that the public actually will pay such crazy high prices, well, why lower?

That said, I have to admit that the entire real estate market has gone insane. Spurred on by crazy low interest rates. The residential construction market is likewise on fire, again spurred on by low interest rates. So there is that.
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yeah its been a while. Ive been getting them from work for free.
 
james t kirk said:
Uh yeah, you may want to check the prices in the present, not 6 months ago.

The current prices reek of price fixing in the industry. I figure that the industry never figured that people would pay such insane prices, but once they saw that the public actually will pay such crazy high prices, well, why lower?

That said, I have to admit that the entire real estate market has gone insane. Spurred on by crazy low interest rates. The residential construction market is likewise on fire, again spurred on by low interest rates. So there is that.
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The construction fuelled by demand is driving the prices. We just up the rates and the purchasers of RE just keep paying. A single 2x12x16 is now at $56 minus volume discounts AND it's a free delivery. Literally tons of cash are being dumped into this. I don't think it's sustainable, but a decade and a half later, here we are.
 
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